RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Gary McInturff

Well, just briefly. The backwards UR is a component recognition. It can 
be used in a end unit only if the conditions of acceptability that are placed 
in the UL report are met. E. G. Power supplies would have obvious things like 
the end use product must provide and adequate fire enclosure etc. Less obvious 
might be the requirement for a specific amount of airflow across the power 
supply itself - this one can bite the unwary. 
The UL in a circle indicates a Listed product - those products that are 
fully ready for a user. Plug it in and go. A computer for example. (Inside of 
which is probably a recognized power supply - which is now properly housed and 
cooled)
Then there is the ULc which means its a listed product and evaluated to 
bi-national standards for the US and Canada. (CSA has a similar mark)
There are actually other forms of markings as well, the words 
Underwriters Listed for example could be used instead of the UL in a circle 
thing. Then there are Classified items such as sheet rock, roofing materials 
etc. Haven't a clue what that marking looks like.
I suppose there are variants that I haven't mentioned but these are the 
essentials to your question I believe.
Gary


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Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 




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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Bill Ellingford

A very quick and basic summary:

Very roughly speaking, the UL marks can be interpretted as follows.  (OK
there are pages and pages of jargon attached to each but the quick messy
answers are):

the UL, UL listed and CUL listed products are those that have been tested at
a UL test facility and passed the relevant applicable product tests (safety)
for such a device.  The CUL denotes listing is acceptable to UL and
harmonised Canadian standards. The list info and file will outline the
standard applied (maybe UL1950 / UL60950) and models of the equipment
covered.  Such listed devices are manufactured at UL inspected factory
facilities.

The mirror image logo is applied to components and parts for which UL have a
manufacturing scheme.  This means parts marked with the logo have been
tested using UL inspected methods and under a UL checked quality system.
This could be on a cable such a a VW-1 rated cord or a PCB with V0 Rating
etc.  Adopting logo marked parts for use in a UL listed product makes for
easier tracability of critical components.

There is also a UL listed Accessory which is for devices intended to be
installed in a host (like a card for a PC).  This is like the UL, CUL mark
but requires installation instructions as part of the assessment.

Hope this helps:  Bill Ellingford
Approvals and Compliance manager
Motion Media Technology

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Subject: Different shades of UL



Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 




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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Brian Epstein

You don't know the half of it.  Check out the following:

http://www.ul.com/mark/

Best regards,
Brian Epstein
Sr Regulatory Compliance Engineer
Veeco Metrology
112 Robin Hill Rd
Santa Barbara CA 93117
805-967-2700 x2315
brian.epst...@veeco.com mailto:brian.epst...@veeco.com 


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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:40 AM
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Subject: Different shades of UL



Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 




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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Wenzel, Kati
Chris

Here is a great link that describes the different UL marks.

http://www.ul.com/mark/index.html

Kati Wenzel

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:40 AM
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Subject: Different shades of UL



Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 




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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Allan, James

Chris:  you probably will get this question answered by many people.

go to the following link and you will find all you need

http://www.ul.com/mark/index.html

Jim Allan
Manager, Engineering Services
Kentrox LLC
1619 N Harrison Parkway
Sunrise, FL, 33323
E-mail james_al...@milgo.com
Phone (954) 846-3720
Fax (954) 846-6282

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 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:40 AM
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 Subject:  Different shades of UL
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
 ignorance.
 
 There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
 differences.  
 
 There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
 There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
 There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
 to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
 means what?  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
 email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
 8024
 
 NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
 web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread richwoods

UL has a page entitled UL's Marks -- What they look like and what they
mean

http://www.ul.com/mark/

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International


-Original Message-
From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:40 AM
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Subject: Different shades of UL



Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 




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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Peter Merguerian
Chris,

See attached link which might be helpful to you. The information may be
found in UL's site http://www.ul.com

TGIF!


PETER S. MERGUERIAN
Technical Director
I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd.
26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211
Or Yehuda 60251, Israel
Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022  Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019
Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175
http://www.itl.co.il
http://www.i-spec.com





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From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:40 PM
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Subject: Different shades of UL



Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 




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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Dave Lorusso

Chris,

Your best bet is to get it from the source at:

http://www.ul.com/mark/

Best regards,

Dave Lorusso
Director of Product Integrity
General Bandwidth, Inc.
12303 Technology Blvd.
Austin, TX 78727
512-681-5480 (phone)
512-681-5481 (fax)
dave.loru...@genband.com
www.genband.com

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From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:40 AM
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Subject: Different shades of UL


Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences. 

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what? 

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 |




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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Andrew Carson


Chris

Try this web address, it explains all the various UL marks and what they
mean. 

http://www.ul.com/mark/index.html

Andrew Carson - Senior Compliance Engineer, Xyratex, UK

Phone: +44 (0)23 9249 6855 Fax: +44 (0)23 9249 6014


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Sent: 22 February 2002 14:40
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Subject: Different shades of UL


Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | 




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Re: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread ooverton


Chris,

Go to the following site and it explains it very well with examples.

http://www.ul.com/mark/index.html

The information not covered are the :
 product type (e.g., I.T.E.) (there is a lot of variation allowed
here),
 4 character Listing Mark Control Number (LMCN) which is a
confidential ID for the applicant,
 UL file number when appropriate,
 use of the word Accessory or similar when appropriate,

The use of the LMCN and UL File Number is determined by who the Applicant
and Listee are and who's name is on the power rating label.

Also the little detail that the text must be in all Caps and Bold.


Oscar
M.O.O.




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Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
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Re: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread LeeSchmitz

Chris,

The RU is the Recognized mark.  It is applicable to products that are 
incomplete in construction features or limited performance capabilities so as 
not to warrant their acceptability as a field installed component.  This 
mark does not look like a UL mark because it is not for public or retail use. 
 If this mark is displayed on a retail advertisement or package it is not 
proper use of the mark.

UL in a circle is the Listing Mark.  It is authorized on products that 
comply with the requirements of UL.

UL in a Circle with a C at the lower right signifies products that have been 
tested by UL to the Canadian requirements.  Of course UL in a circle with US 
at the lower left and C at the lower right signifies products that have been 
tested by UL to the UL requirements and the Canadian requirements.

UL in a circle with the word Classified around the top of the circle 
signifies products that are classified with respect to: a: properties of the 
product b: A limited spectrum of hazards to life or property c: suitability 
for certain uses or d: other conditions.

Note: there are other, little used, marks with the words Underwriters 
Laboratories written out that also mean Listed

Lee Schmitz
Consultant

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Re: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread Ron Pickard


Hi Chris,

Explain, no. But, you will find the answer to your question at:

http://www.ul.com/mark/index.html

There, you should be able to find every kind of UL mark, and then some. Each 
has has a short
description.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
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Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
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RE: Different shades of UL

2002-02-22 Thread John Juhasz

try this Chris. It'll explain all.
http://www.ul.com/mark/index.html

John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY

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Subject: Different shades of UL



Hi all,

I know that this has been covered before.  But please indulge my
ignorance.

There are many different forms of UL marks, each with subtle
differences.  

There is the UL in a circle.  There is also the mirror lettered RU.
There are also some subscripts denoting approval for Canada as well.
There may be some other variations that I can't remember.  Anyone care
to blow a few minutes on a Friday afternoon to explain which symbol
means what?  

Thanks,

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
8024

NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA
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