RE: EN 55103 declaration
Dear Mr Chan, you may get an e-mail from BSI justifying what they do, but I find it irritating (mainly because I wish I had thought of it first.) If you look at most of the BS EN standards, you will see that they are the EN Standards with a BSI front and back cover. This makes it an official British standard, since traditionally BSI set various standards within the UK. The rest of the standard is invariably identical to the EN standard. What I find irritating is that BSI then charge us a lot of money for putting these extra pages onto the EN standard for you. No-one (except this miserable tight-fisted Scotsman) seems to mind paying them for this service. Oh how I wish I had thought of this first. Best regards, David Sproul. From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of KC CHAN [PDD] Sent: 07 January 2003 02:42 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; boconn...@t-yuden.com Subject: RE: EN 55103 declaration EN and BSI EN are the same, but I would suggest you use EN standards on your DoC, instead of BS EN. The publish date of the standards from EN and BS EN might not be the same, so to avoid confusion, use EN, which the publish date(actually the date is version) are same as those listed in OJ. boconn...@t-yuden.com 01/04/03 12:46am Sir What is the rationale given for some people not accepting an EN standard issued by BSI? My employer typically buys EN stds from BSI. Is there something different about BSI-printed standards? thanks for info. R/S, Brian O'Connell Taiyo Yuden (USA), Inc. From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 55103 declaration 76011...@gandalf.allen-heath.com) about 'EN 55103 declaration' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: As a UK manufacturer and European exporter of professional electronic audio products, we declare conformity with the relevant EMC product family standards. For testing purposes, we use EN 55103:1996 Parts 1 2 but our EU Declaration of conformity states compliance with BS EN 55103:1997 Parts 1 2. As the majority of our products are exported to mainland Europe should we specify compliance with the EN or BS EN version of the standards? While it is quite reasonable to cite the BS EN, some people may not think so, thus you should cite the EN. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: EN 55103 declaration
EN and BSI EN are the same, but I would suggest you use EN standards on your DoC, instead of BS EN. The publish date of the standards from EN and BS EN might not be the same, so to avoid confusion, use EN, which the publish date(actually the date is version) are same as those listed in OJ. boconn...@t-yuden.com 01/04/03 12:46am Sir What is the rationale given for some people not accepting an EN standard issued by BSI? My employer typically buys EN stds from BSI. Is there something different about BSI-printed standards? thanks for info. R/S, Brian O'Connell Taiyo Yuden (USA), Inc. From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 55103 declaration 76011...@gandalf.allen-heath.com) about 'EN 55103 declaration' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: As a UK manufacturer and European exporter of professional electronic audio products, we declare conformity with the relevant EMC product family standards. For testing purposes, we use EN 55103:1996 Parts 1 2 but our EU Declaration of conformity states compliance with BS EN 55103:1997 Parts 1 2. As the majority of our products are exported to mainland Europe should we specify compliance with the EN or BS EN version of the standards? While it is quite reasonable to cite the BS EN, some people may not think so, thus you should cite the EN. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: EN 55103 declaration
I read in !emc-pstc that boconn...@t-yuden.com wrote (in F7E9180F6F7F58 40858d3db815e4f7ad1f2...@cms21.t-yuden.com) about 'EN 55103 declaration' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: What is the rationale given for some people not accepting an EN standard issued by BSI? My employer typically buys EN stds from BSI. Is there something different about BSI-printed standards? No, they are identical (apart from the National Foreword and things like that) but *some people may not know that*, especially where the EN is published in December (2000 + n) but the BS EN carries the date (2000 + n + 1). -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: EN 55103 declaration
Sir What is the rationale given for some people not accepting an EN standard issued by BSI? My employer typically buys EN stds from BSI. Is there something different about BSI-printed standards? thanks for info. R/S, Brian O'Connell Taiyo Yuden (USA), Inc. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [ mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 55103 declaration 76011...@gandalf.allen-heath.com) about 'EN 55103 declaration' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: As a UK manufacturer and European exporter of professional electronic audio products, we declare conformity with the relevant EMC product family standards. For testing purposes, we use EN 55103:1996 Parts 1 2 but our EU Declaration of conformity states compliance with BS EN 55103:1997 Parts 1 2. As the majority of our products are exported to mainland Europe should we specify compliance with the EN or BS EN version of the standards? While it is quite reasonable to cite the BS EN, some people may not think so, thus you should cite the EN.
Re: EN 55103 declaration
For testing purposes, we use EN 55103:1996 Parts 1 2 but our EU Declaration of conformity states compliance with BS EN 55103:1997 Parts 1 2. As the majority of our products are exported to mainland Europe should we specify compliance with the EN or BS EN version of the standards? Happy New Year! I believe that EC Declaration of Conformity should give references to harmonized standards (listed in OJ). John Radomski Schneider Electric This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: EN 55103 declaration
I read in !emc-pstc that McBurney, Ian [Allen Heath UK] ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com wrote (in BC4E3DA2E1C8164D9CBE2DF1595DCC 76011...@gandalf.allen-heath.com) about 'EN 55103 declaration' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: As a UK manufacturer and European exporter of professional electronic audio products, we declare conformity with the relevant EMC product family standards. For testing purposes, we use EN 55103:1996 Parts 1 2 but our EU Declaration of conformity states compliance with BS EN 55103:1997 Parts 1 2. As the majority of our products are exported to mainland Europe should we specify compliance with the EN or BS EN version of the standards? While it is quite reasonable to cite the BS EN, some people may not think so, thus you should cite the EN. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
