Re: radar
I read in !emc-pstc that Bill Lyons b...@lyons.demon.co.uk wrote (in 57...@lyons.demon.co.uk) about 'radar', on Fri, 11 Jan 2002: Hope this suggestion will be seen as being as practical as the typical EU Directive - even if slightly OT! I believe they were trying it out in Athens a couple of years ago when I was there. (;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: radar
I'm going to say British pass on the left because the jousting pole is usually held by right handers. Sailors pass on the right, yet don't know the origin of that. Maybe the sailing tradition started a propensity to pass on the right for colonists. Automobiles in the US are made so the driver can easily use his right hand to operate a stick shift, which was mounted down the center of the automobile on the transmission system. - Robert - -Original Message- From: Andrew Wood andrew.w...@landinst.com To: 'douglas_beckw...@mitel.com' douglas_beckw...@mitel.com Cc: 'emc-pstc' emc-p...@ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:38 AM Subject: RE: radar I don't know whether it is true or not, but I recall hearing this some time ago The convention of passing to the left on a road dates back to the days of riding horse back and was related to the normal position for wearing a sword or pistol. The first motor carriages had the driver sat centrally but kept to the same convention. What I don't recall is the final piece of the story ie why most of the non British Commonwealth nations decided to go the other way. Andy. From: Douglas Beckwith@MITEL on 01/10/2002 11:17 AM Aha, a man after my own heart. Now you are talking about real cars. As an ex South African living in Canada, I still can't get used to the idea of driving on the the wrong side of the road. Doug Beckwith Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com on 01/10/2002 08:29:14 AM Please respond to Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(bcc: Douglas Beckwith/Kan/Mitel) Subject: RE: radar Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? I can think of at least one good reason to take a RHD car out of the UK - its called the Lotus Super 7. There, its out in the open now. I am a British car nut. :) Rerards, Andrew Veit Systems Design Engineer MTS Systems Corp 1001 Sheldon Drive Cary, NC 27513 -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: radar I read in !emc-pstc that John Shinn john.sh...@sanmina.com wrote (in 001f01c1992f$09f5c960$0b3d1...@hadco.comsanmina.com) about 'radar', on Wed, 9 Jan 2002: Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? There are actually more *countries* where you drive on the left. Not more RHD cars, though. (No, I don't have the list of RHD countries, but it's on the web somewhere - everything is!) Besides, it is *undeniable* that a British car has the steering wheel on the right side. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. This e-mail and its contents may be confidential, privileged and protected by law. Access is only authorised by the intended recipient. The contents of this e-mail may not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the intended recipient, or stored or copied in any medium. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society
Re: radar
Well from the urban myths I have seen it goes something like this, The passing on the left does come form wearing a pistol or a sword. You naturally lead an attack with your right hand. Hence why you shake with your right hand to show you are carrying no weapon and are a friend. In Europe only the nobility and army were allowed to carry weapons and this lead to nobles traveling on the left side of the road. Peasants, did not count in these days, and ended up on the right hand side, when they got the opportunity. Come the French revolution and nobody wanted to be a nobel and the right hand side of the road became very popular. Throw in a general attitude to do the opposite of all those old decant ways and the French Republic switched over to a Right hand side convention. Under Napoleon it then went onto Dominate most of Europe, setting up trade routes, government infrastructure, etc. Plus the convention of moving down the Right hand side of the road. Hence why it now the European norm. As for the US, again the French. Who in the early days of colonization were very big in Canada and the northern states. We had a few wars with them over this land long before the USA was even a glint in George Washington eyes. But the important thing was it was the french who set up the main northern trade route and established the RHS convention. As for the rest of the world. The majority drive on the LHS. Only ex French colonies, countries whose infrastructure was set up by the French or Americans, or where trade links has required it, uses RHS. The Scandinavian countries only recently, past couple of decades, switched to RHS and the Far East despite being land locked to Asia, still LHS. Plus the big one called Africa. Anyway, my Friday morning speculative fun. Andrew Wood wrote: I don't know whether it is true or not, but I recall hearing this some time ago The convention of passing to the left on a road dates back to the days of riding horse back and was related to the normal position for wearing a sword or pistol. The first motor carriages had the driver sat centrally but kept to the same convention. What I don't recall is the final piece of the story ie why most of the non British Commonwealth nations decided to go the other way. Andy. From: Douglas Beckwith@MITEL on 01/10/2002 11:17 AM Aha, a man after my own heart. Now you are talking about real cars. As an ex South African living in Canada, I still can't get used to the idea of driving on the the wrong side of the road. Doug Beckwith Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com on 01/10/2002 08:29:14 AM Please respond to Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(bcc: Douglas Beckwith/Kan/Mitel) Subject: RE: radar Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? I can think of at least one good reason to take a RHD car out of the UK - its called the Lotus Super 7. There, its out in the open now. I am a British car nut. :) Rerards, Andrew Veit Systems Design Engineer MTS Systems Corp 1001 Sheldon Drive Cary, NC 27513 -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: radar I read in !emc-pstc that John Shinn john.sh...@sanmina.com wrote (in 001f01c1992f$09f5c960$0b3d1...@hadco.comsanmina.com) about 'radar', on Wed, 9 Jan 2002: Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? There are actually more *countries* where you drive on the left. Not more RHD cars, though. (No, I don't have the list of RHD countries, but it's on the web somewhere - everything is!) Besides, it is *undeniable* that a British car has the steering wheel on the right side. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from
RE: radar
I don't know whether it is true or not, but I recall hearing this some time ago The convention of passing to the left on a road dates back to the days of riding horse back and was related to the normal position for wearing a sword or pistol. The first motor carriages had the driver sat centrally but kept to the same convention. What I don't recall is the final piece of the story ie why most of the non British Commonwealth nations decided to go the other way. Andy. From: Douglas Beckwith@MITEL on 01/10/2002 11:17 AM Aha, a man after my own heart. Now you are talking about real cars. As an ex South African living in Canada, I still can't get used to the idea of driving on the the wrong side of the road. Doug Beckwith Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com on 01/10/2002 08:29:14 AM Please respond to Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(bcc: Douglas Beckwith/Kan/Mitel) Subject: RE: radar Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? I can think of at least one good reason to take a RHD car out of the UK - its called the Lotus Super 7. There, its out in the open now. I am a British car nut. :) Rerards, Andrew Veit Systems Design Engineer MTS Systems Corp 1001 Sheldon Drive Cary, NC 27513 -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: radar I read in !emc-pstc that John Shinn john.sh...@sanmina.com wrote (in 001f01c1992f$09f5c960$0b3d1...@hadco.comsanmina.com) about 'radar', on Wed, 9 Jan 2002: Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? There are actually more *countries* where you drive on the left. Not more RHD cars, though. (No, I don't have the list of RHD countries, but it's on the web somewhere - everything is!) Besides, it is *undeniable* that a British car has the steering wheel on the right side. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. This e-mail and its contents may be confidential, privileged and protected by law. Access is only authorised by the intended recipient. The contents of this e-mail may not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the intended recipient, or stored or copied in any medium. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported
RE: radar
From: Douglas Beckwith@MITEL on 01/10/2002 11:17 AM Aha, a man after my own heart. Now you are talking about real cars. As an ex South African living in Canada, I still can't get used to the idea of driving on the the wrong side of the road. Doug Beckwith Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com on 01/10/2002 08:29:14 AM Please respond to Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(bcc: Douglas Beckwith/Kan/Mitel) Subject: RE: radar Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? I can think of at least one good reason to take a RHD car out of the UK - its called the Lotus Super 7. There, its out in the open now. I am a British car nut. :) Rerards, Andrew Veit Systems Design Engineer MTS Systems Corp 1001 Sheldon Drive Cary, NC 27513 -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: radar I read in !emc-pstc that John Shinn john.sh...@sanmina.com wrote (in 001f01c1992f$09f5c960$0b3d1...@hadco.comsanmina.com) about 'radar', on Wed, 9 Jan 2002: Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? There are actually more *countries* where you drive on the left. Not more RHD cars, though. (No, I don't have the list of RHD countries, but it's on the web somewhere - everything is!) Besides, it is *undeniable* that a British car has the steering wheel on the right side. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: radar
Interesting - What was intended to be a humorous remark actually received some serious response! John -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Veit, Andy Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:29 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: radar Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? I can think of at least one good reason to take a RHD car out of the UK - its called the Lotus Super 7. There, its out in the open now. I am a British car nut. :) Rerards, Andrew Veit Systems Design Engineer MTS Systems Corp 1001 Sheldon Drive Cary, NC 27513 -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: radar I read in !emc-pstc that John Shinn john.sh...@sanmina.com wrote (in 001f01c1992f$09f5c960$0b3d1...@hadco.comsanmina.com) about 'radar', on Wed, 9 Jan 2002: Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? There are actually more *countries* where you drive on the left. Not more RHD cars, though. (No, I don't have the list of RHD countries, but it's on the web somewhere - everything is!) Besides, it is *undeniable* that a British car has the steering wheel on the right side. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: radar
I read in !emc-pstc that Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com wrote (in 421e2204a588d111b8bf00a0c995f26801be9...@smtpgate.mts.com) about 'radar', on Thu, 10 Jan 2002: I can think of at least one good reason to take a RHD car out of the UK - its called the Lotus Super 7. There, its out in the open now. I am a British car nut. :) Whitworth or BSF? (;-) I thought you could get LHD Super 7's? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: radar
Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? I can think of at least one good reason to take a RHD car out of the UK - its called the Lotus Super 7. There, its out in the open now. I am a British car nut. :) Rerards, Andrew Veit Systems Design Engineer MTS Systems Corp 1001 Sheldon Drive Cary, NC 27513 -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: radar I read in !emc-pstc that John Shinn john.sh...@sanmina.com wrote (in 001f01c1992f$09f5c960$0b3d1...@hadco.comsanmina.com) about 'radar', on Wed, 9 Jan 2002: Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? There are actually more *countries* where you drive on the left. Not more RHD cars, though. (No, I don't have the list of RHD countries, but it's on the web somewhere - everything is!) Besides, it is *undeniable* that a British car has the steering wheel on the right side. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: radar (Germany)
Hi Ed, in Germany you have speed ratings for your tires, beginning at 160 KPH (100 mph)and then on to 190, 220 and 250 and beyond (some cars really go that fast, take a Porsche or a Ferrari). BMW and Mercedes have a gentleman agreement that these cars can't exceed 250 KPH (abt 156 mph). But of course, you can always do chip tuning... NOW : It is not very often that you can go very fast on a German motorway, because of lots of traffic, and many traffic jams. Also a big percentage of the motorways are regulated for 130, 120 100 or even 80 KPH, and a lot of mobile and stationary controlling devices make nice black-and-white photos of you and the car I drive a BMW, and I think the last time I drove faster than 200 KPH is two months ago, and I don't have an ego problem with that! Anyway, if you are involved in an accident and you drove more than 130 KHP (81 MPH), the court will see negligence on your part for driving so fast. Of course it is not forbidden - but if there is a problem, you have a distinct disadvantage! My 0.02 EURO... Jochen Feldhaar --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: radar (Germany)
Imagine that, holding someone accountable for their own actions! What a novel concept. I doubt it would ever be accepted in the US. MOO J.Feldhaar j.feldhaar%telejet...@interlock.lexmark.com on 01/10/2002 08:00:52 AM Please respond to J.Feldhaar j.feldhaar%telejet...@interlock.lexmark.com To: Price, Ed ed.price%cubic@interlock.lexmark.com, emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: Oscar Overton/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Re: radar (Germany) Hi Ed, in Germany you have speed ratings for your tires, beginning at 160 KPH (100 mph)and then on to 190, 220 and 250 and beyond (some cars really go that fast, take a Porsche or a Ferrari). BMW and Mercedes have a gentleman agreement that these cars can't exceed 250 KPH (abt 156 mph). But of course, you can always do chip tuning... NOW : It is not very often that you can go very fast on a German motorway, because of lots of traffic, and many traffic jams. Also a big percentage of the motorways are regulated for 130, 120 100 or even 80 KPH, and a lot of mobile and stationary controlling devices make nice black-and-white photos of you and the car I drive a BMW, and I think the last time I drove faster than 200 KPH is two months ago, and I don't have an ego problem with that! Anyway, if you are involved in an accident and you drove more than 130 KHP (81 MPH), the court will see negligence on your part for driving so fast. Of course it is not forbidden - but if there is a problem, you have a distinct disadvantage! My 0.02 EURO... Jochen Feldhaar --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
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I read in !emc-pstc that John Shinn john.sh...@sanmina.com wrote (in 001f01c1992f$09f5c960$0b3d1...@hadco.comsanmina.com) about 'radar', on Wed, 9 Jan 2002: Why would someone want to take a car out of UK with the steering wheel on the wrong side? There are actually more *countries* where you drive on the left. Not more RHD cars, though. (No, I don't have the list of RHD countries, but it's on the web somewhere - everything is!) Besides, it is *undeniable* that a British car has the steering wheel on the right side. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
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Only the Autobahns have an unrestricted speed limit. Even here the police will stop you if they think you are driving too fast for the road conditions. Think the general guide line is around 120mph being considered too fast no matter what the conditions. Also all new cars sold in Germany must have a speed limiter to stop them exceeding 150mph. Jim Freeman wrote: I didn't know that there were any speed limits in Germany. Jim Freeman Lothar Schmidt wrote: There are even better systems on the market. The German police use systems which show the driver very clearly by placing the cameras so, that it takes the front of the car.So please smile if you drive too fast Best RegardsLothar Schmidt Technical Manager EMC/Radio BQB CETECOM Inc. 411 Dixon Landing Road Milpitas, CA 95035 ( +1 408 586 6214 Ê +1 408 586 6299 -Original Message- From: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com [mailto:kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:09 PM To: ghery.pet...@intel.com; nickjro...@cs.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: radar My own experience with photo radar showed a very clear picture of the rear of the car, showing the license plate and also a good view of the back of my head. No court summons was involved as I did not attempt to fight it. The ticket went out to the registered owner of the vehicle...not the driver hence no insurance impact.My two cent and and not that of my employer,Regards,Kaz GawrzyjalDell -Original Message- From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:34 PM To: 'Nick Rouse'; emc Subject: RE: radar Does the photo show who was driving the car? Can't say that I would be too happy to be summoned to court when one of my kids (or wife) was speeding.Ghery Pettit -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:nickjro...@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:03 PM To: emc Subject: Re: radar I don't know if the technique is used in America but the speed cameras in the UK are triggered by radar but produce evidence by taking two pictures illuminated by two strobe pulses timed about 150ms apart. Stripes are painted across the road spaced so that between flashes a vehicle will traverse one stripe pitch for every 10mph.If the pictures show you have traversed more than 7 stripe pitches (on motorways)you will receive copies of these photos together with a summons to appear in court.Nick Rouse Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman -- Andrew Carson - Senior Compliance Engineer, Xyratex, UK Phone: +44 (0)23 9249 6855 Fax: +44 (0)23 9249 6014
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I read in !emc-pstc that Robert Macy m...@california.com wrote (in 001401c1988a$42e50a60$46e10...@robert.macy.california.com) about 'radar', on Tue, 8 Jan 2002: But on the up side, if you're stopped in England you don't have to produce a driver's license -- considered an invasion of your rights, or such. Not really about 'rights', I think. It's 'traditional', and in the old days people didn't necessarily carry their licence. You are required to produce your licence **and certificate of insurance** at a police station of your choice within 5 days. Certainly, some people do not carry their certificate of insurance, and if it's a company car, they usually don't have one; this is a security precaution to prevent the car being taken out of UK without permission. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
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I didn't know that there were any speed limits in Germany. Jim Freeman Lothar Schmidt wrote: There are even better systems on the market. The German police use systems which show the driver very clearly by placing the cameras so, that it takes the front of the car.So please smile if you drive too fast Best RegardsLothar Schmidt Technical Manager EMC/Radio BQB CETECOM Inc. 411 Dixon Landing Road Milpitas, CA 95035 ( +1 408 586 6214 Ê +1 408 586 6299 -Original Message- From: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com [mailto:kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:09 PM To: ghery.pet...@intel.com; nickjro...@cs.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: radar My own experience with photo radar showed a very clear picture of the rear of the car, showing the license plate and also a good view of the back of my head. No court summons was involved as I did not attempt to fight it. The ticket went out to the registered owner of the vehicle...not the driver hence no insurance impact.My two cent and and not that of my employer,Regards,Kaz GawrzyjalDell -Original Message- From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:34 PM To: 'Nick Rouse'; emc Subject: RE: radar Does the photo show who was driving the car? Can't say that I would be too happy to be summoned to court when one of my kids (or wife) was speeding.Ghery Pettit -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:nickjro...@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:03 PM To: emc Subject: Re: radar I don't know if the technique is used in America but the speed cameras in the UK are triggered by radar but produce evidence by taking two pictures illuminated by two strobe pulses timed about 150ms apart. Stripes are painted across the road spaced so that between flashes a vehicle will traverse one stripe pitch for every 10mph.If the pictures show you have traversed more than 7 stripe pitches (on motorways)you will receive copies of these photos together with a summons to appear in court.Nick Rouse Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman
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Remember the "Miss Piggy" driver? He wore a rubber mask so he could challenge photo-radar citations. When I was there he had not lost a case, because the photograph could not identify the driver, and there was at the time no law requiring a driver to refrain from wearing a mask. I do believe that has since been changed! Who, moi? Cortland (What I write here is mine alone. My employer does not Concur, agree or else endorse These words, their tone, or thought.) Lothar Schmidt wrote: There are even better systems on the market. The German police use systems which show the driver very clearly by placing the cameras so, that it takes the front of the car.So please smile if you drive too fast --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
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I recall a similar story about the CHP. Don't know if it's true or not. Only speeding ticket I ever got was from a chippie, a bit over 21 years ago, so I haven't really worried about it too much. Seem to recall that she was as good looking as the ones on the TV show, too. Ghery -Original Message- From: James Collum [mailto:james.col...@usa.alcatel.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:22 PM To: Pettit, Ghery; emc Subject: Re: radar Reminds me of a news article a while back from New Zealand where they also use the roadside automated radar/camera setup (GATSO?) A chap received a fixed penalty ticket in the mail stating that his car had been photographed speeding and that he had to pay a fine. He replied via mail with a photo of a cheque for the fine. The police responded also via mail with a photo of a pair of handcuffs. He paid up. Jim OBTW I thought that the CHP were not allowed radar as the Ca voters elected by ballot that they would not pay taxes to allow the police to buy equipment allowing them to raise more revenue from speeders. Hence only the local police have radars and the CHP have to get behind you or time you over a fixed distance from a spotter plane. Or is that an urban myth? Pettit, Ghery wrote: Does the photo show who was driving the car? Can't say that I would be too happy to be summoned to court when one of my kids (or wife) was speeding.Ghery Pettit -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [ mailto:nickjro...@cs.com mailto:nickjro...@cs.com ] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:03 PM To: emc Subject: Re: radar I don't know if the technique is used in America but the speed cameras in the UK are triggered by radar but produce evidence by taking two pictures illuminated by two strobe pulses timed about 150ms apart. Stripes are painted across the road spaced so that between flashes a vehicle will traverse one stripe pitch for every 10mph.If the pictures show you have traversed more than 7 stripe pitches (on motorways)you will receive copies of these photos together with a summons to appear in court.Nick Rouse Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman
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Reminds me of a news article a while back from New Zealand where they also use the roadside automated radar/camera setup (GATSO?) A chap received a fixed penalty ticket in the mail stating that his car had been photographed speeding and that he had to pay a fine. He replied via mail with a photo of a cheque for the fine. The police responded also via mail with a photo of a pair of handcuffs. He paid up. Jim OBTW I thought that the CHP were not allowed radar as the Ca voters elected by ballot that they would not pay taxes to allow the police to buy equipment allowing them to raise more revenue from speeders. Hence only the local police have radars and the CHP have to get behind you or time you over a fixed distance from a spotter plane. Or is that an urban myth? Pettit, Ghery wrote: Does the photo show who was driving the car? Can't say that I would be too happy to be summoned to court when one of my kids (or wife) was speeding.Ghery Pettit -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:nickjro...@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:03 PM To: emc Subject: Re: radar I don't know if the technique is used in America but the speed cameras in the UK are triggered by radar but produce evidence by taking two pictures illuminated by two strobe pulses timed about 150ms apart. Stripes are painted across the road spaced so that between flashes a vehicle will traverse one stripe pitch for every 10mph.If the pictures show you have traversed more than 7 stripe pitches (on motorways)you will receive copies of these photos together with a summons to appear in court.Nick Rouse Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman
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There are even better systems on the market. The German police use systems which show the driver very clearly by placing the cameras so, that it takes the front of the car. So please smile if you drive too fast Best Regards Lothar Schmidt Technical Manager EMC/Radio BQB CETECOM Inc. 411 Dixon Landing Road Milpitas, CA 95035 * +1 408 586 6214 * +1 408 586 6299 -Original Message- From: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com [mailto:kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:09 PM To: ghery.pet...@intel.com; nickjro...@cs.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: radar My own experience with photo radar showed a very clear picture of the rear of the car, showing the license plate and also a good view of the back of my head. No court summons was involved as I did not attempt to fight it. The ticket went out to the registered owner of the vehicle...not the driver hence no insurance impact. My two cent and and not that of my employer, Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal Dell -Original Message- From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:34 PM To: 'Nick Rouse'; emc Subject: RE: radar Does the photo show who was driving the car? Can't say that I would be too happy to be summoned to court when one of my kids (or wife) was speeding. Ghery Pettit -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:nickjro...@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:03 PM To: emc Subject: Re: radar I don't know if the technique is used in America but the speed cameras in the UK are triggered by radar but produce evidence by taking two pictures illuminated by two strobe pulses timed about 150ms apart. Stripes are painted across the road spaced so that between flashes a vehicle will traverse one stripe pitch for every 10mph.If the pictures show you have traversed more than 7 stripe pitches (on motorways)you will receive copies of these photos together with a summons to appear in court. Nick Rouse Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman
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Does the photo show who was driving the car? Can't say that I would be too happy to be summoned to court when one of my kids (or wife) was speeding. Ghery Pettit -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:nickjro...@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:03 PM To: emc Subject: Re: radar I don't know if the technique is used in America but the speed cameras in the UK are triggered by radar but produce evidence by taking two pictures illuminated by two strobe pulses timed about 150ms apart. Stripes are painted across the road spaced so that between flashes a vehicle will traverse one stripe pitch for every 10mph.If the pictures show you have traversed more than 7 stripe pitches (on motorways)you will receive copies of these photos together with a summons to appear in court. Nick Rouse Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman
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I don't know if the technique is used in America but the speed cameras in the UK are triggered by radar but produce evidence by taking two pictures illuminated by two strobe pulses timed about 150ms apart. Stripes are painted across the road spaced so that between flashes a vehicle will traverse one stripe pitch for every 10mph.If the pictures show you have traversed more than 7 stripe pitches (on motorways)you will receive copies of these photos together with a summons to appear in court. Nick Rouse Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman
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I think what you saw was a strobe light that was flashing. It has nothing to do with the mechanics, only the image. It appears that the CHP feels that when you see someone getting a ticket you speed up since you regard that officer as otherwise engaged. When you see a CHP with his radar gun cocked, everyone slows down. He doesn't even have to turn it on to be effective. In fact if he leaves it off, it enforcesthe image of steal technology that can't be detected by radar detectors. Fred Townsend Jim Freeman wrote: Hi All, I apologize for being off subject but I was driving to work and noticed aCalifornia Highway Patrol officer on the opposite of the freeway an about 500 yards away. What brought him to my attention was what appeared to be a strobe light that was flashing. I have been thinking about and I was wondering if the new radar has some ways of taking pictures or if the strobe light really is the radar source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Freeman --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
