Re: [PSES] EFT Power Port Coupling Paths
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:34:47 +, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: It seems IEC 61000-4-4:2004 (ed.2) clause 7.3.1.1 is clear on this: The test voltage shall be applied simultaneously between a ground reference plane and all of the power supply terminals, a.c. or d.c., and the protective or functional earth port on the EUT cabinet. That's not clear at all. Does 'all of' mean 'all connected together' or 'every... individually'? I did't feel the sentense is very good, but I thought the word simultaneously made it clearer on this point. And figure 4, 9 and 12 in the standard no longer have switches to select the coupling path. However, I think that to test all combinations can be a good practice. Regards, Tom -- Tomonori Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp URL: http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] EFT Power Port Coupling Paths
In message 20120208212033a.vef00...@nifty.ne.jp, dated Wed, 8 Feb 2012, T.Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp writes: I did't feel the sentense is very good, but I thought the word simultaneously made it clearer on this point. It does, but the fact that people are discussing what it means shows that it isn't sufficiently clear. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK If 'QWERTY' is an English keyboard, what language is 'WYSIWYG' for? - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] RoHS
We have an adhesive with no RoHS certs, Are there RoHS capable test labs in the US. I would presume there is some % of total content that is allowed if one only knew what materials are in the adhesive. Not my area just asking for a panicked compatriot. He's looking for any means at the moment to clear this gap. Gary McInturff Reliability/Compliance Engineer Esterline Interface Technologies Featuring ADVANCED INPUT, MEMTRON, and LRE MEDICAL products 600 W. Wilbur Avenue Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815-9496 Office:208-635-8306 Cell: 509 868 2279 Toll Free: 800-444-5923 X 1238 gary.mcintu...@esterline.commailto:brian.s...@esterline.com www.esterline.com/interfacetechnologieshttp://www.esterline.com/advancedinput Technology, Innovation, Performance... - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] RoHS
Many of the North American NRTLs/SCCs have labs for this. Perhaps a local company can rent you some time on their XRF box to see if it is even detectable. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:34 PM To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RoHS We have an adhesive with no RoHS certs, Are there RoHS capable test labs in the US. I would presume there is some % of total content that is allowed if one only knew what materials are in the adhesive. Not my area just asking for a panicked compatriot. He's looking for any means at the moment to clear this gap. Gary McInturff Reliability/Compliance Engineer Esterline Interface TechnologiesFeaturing ADVANCED INPUT, MEMTRON, and LRE MEDICAL products 600 W. Wilbur Avenue Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815-9496 Office:208-635-8306 Cell: 509 868 2279 Toll Free: 800-444-5923 X 1238 gary.mcintu...@esterline.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] RoHS
Try NSL Analytical Services, Inc. 4450 Cranwood Parkway Cleveland OH 44128 Chuck McDowell Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:34 PM To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RoHS We have an adhesive with no RoHS certs, Are there RoHS capable test labs in the US. I would presume there is some % of total content that is allowed if one only knew what materials are in the adhesive. Not my area just asking for a panicked compatriot. He's looking for any means at the moment to clear this gap. Gary McInturff Reliability/Compliance Engineer Esterline Interface Technologies Featuring ADVANCED INPUT, MEMTRON, and LRE MEDICAL products 600 W. Wilbur Avenue Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815-9496 Office:208-635-8306 Cell: 509 868 2279 Toll Free: 800-444-5923 X 1238 gary.mcintu...@esterline.commailto:brian.s...@esterline.com www.esterline.com/interfacetechnologieshttp://www.esterline.com/advancedinput Technology, Innovation, Performance... - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com NOTICE: This email may contain confidential information. Please see http://www.meyersound.com/confidential/ for our complete policy. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] RoHS
In message d250d01e39356a4e9cc3b4b459d665503b7c1...@ms-cda-01.advanced-input.com, dated Wed, 8 Feb 2012, McInturff, Gary gary.mcintu...@esterline.com writes: We have an adhesive with no RoHS certs, It might appear that an adhesive would not have any 'HS' content, but one can't be sure, e.g. mould and fungus inhibitor. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK If 'QWERTY' is an English keyboard, what language is 'WYSIWYG' for? - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] Melting BNC connectors
Hi Everyone, I have been traveling and am a few days late on my latest Technical Tidbit. Here are the details: Technical Tidbit - February 2012 The Melted BNC Adapter This month's Technical Tidbit describes an unusual side effect of trying to use inexpensive BNC hardware. Abstract:I often solder wires or components to BNC hardware to make voltage probes and magnetic loop probes. The process usually goes smoothly, except this time. Who would have guessed that the metal portion of BNC hardware could melt from the heat of soldering! The link to the article is: http://emcesd.com/tt2012/tt020812.htm If you see a "[1]" at the end of the above link placed there by software not resident on my computer, you must remove it from the link for the link to work. Alternately you can copy the link without the [1] into a browser. This spring, I will be moving from Los Gatos, CA to Boulder City, NV and setting my office up there as well as my residence (phone and Internet lines are being installed next week in the office). If you want to see what I am up to there, go to http://emcesd.com (near the top of the page) where I have posted pictures and information. Feel free to come for a visit and see the Lake Mead National Recreation Area! I will give you a personal tour. Doug -- --- ___ _ Doug Smith \ / ) P.O. Box 1457 = Los Gatos, CA 95031-1457 _ / \ / \ _ TEL/FAX: 408-356-4186/358-3799 / /\ \ ] / /\ \ Mobile: 408-858-4528 | q-( ) | o |Email: d...@dsmith.org \ _ /]\ _ / Website: http://www.dsmith.org --- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] (Fwd) RE: Compliance PM Position
Funny, they laid a bunch off recently in order to get the market value up, and now they find they need a contract person to get the product out the door! At least you know you are temp in this position!!| From: Peter Tarver ptar...@ieee.org To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 1:58 AM Subject: (Fwd) RE: Compliance PM Position Howdy all. Contact Shannon regarding this position. See below. Doesn't say, but probably in San Jose, CA. Peter Tarver ptar...@ieee.org --- Forwarded message follows --- From:Schlothauer, Shannon sschl...@aerotek.com To:ptar...@ieee.org ptar...@ieee.org Date sent:Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:01:48 -0500 Subject:RE: Compliance PM Position Hello, My name is Shannon Schlothauer and I am reaching out to you in hopes to network with you for a position I have. I have a contract at Cisco for a compliance Program Manager. They need to be experienced with bringing products to market and global regulatory compliance. If you or someone you know is interested please contact me immediately. Thank you for your time in advance. Best regards, Shannon Schlothauer Account Recruiter Manager Aerotek Inc. 2099 Gateway Pl. Suite 750 San Jose , Ca 95110 Tel: 408-367-6790 Fax: 408-367-6890 Join my LinkedIn! http://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonschlothauer - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Melting BNC connectors
In message 4f335a4b.4000...@emcesd.com, dated Wed, 8 Feb 2012, Doug Smith d...@emcesd.com writes: Who would have guessed that the metal portion of BNC hardware could melt from the heat of soldering! The body is probably made of pewter - tin with a small amount of other metals. 100 years ago, was in fashion for teapots and associated vessels. Now not in fashion - yet. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK If 'QWERTY' is an English keyboard, what language is 'WYSIWYG' for? - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
