[PSES] EN 50370-1/-2

[Mel Soliven]

Dear Experts,
I would like to know your view with regards to the Product standards for 
machine tools as per below. It mentioned that the date of cessation was 2008 & 
2005 respectively. For the On-site testing ( Manufacturer's Premises), I 
believe this standard can still be usable for the fact that; we are using EN 
50370as reference, but we are not actually showing full compliance to EN50370. 
Weare showing that, by referencing an EMC standard typical for the type 
ofequipment (and EMC environment), that the argument of compliance with 
theDirective Essential Requirements is good. In an EMC Technical File, we 
arearguing compliance with the Directive, not particular Standards. This means 
that, inactual fact, it doesn't really matter which product/generic standard 
isreferenced when testing in situ, but logic says (due to the definitions) 
thatEN50370 is more appropriate than EN61000-6-x.
Any insights are welcome.
Many thanks in advance,

| Cenelec | EN 50370-1:2005 Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Product 
family standard for machine tools - Part 1: Emission |  Relevant generic 
standard(s)

Note 2.1   |  01/02/2008   |
| Cenelec | EN 50370-2:2003 Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Product 
family standard for machine tools - Part 2: Immunity |  Relevant generic 
standard(s)

Note 2.1: The new (or amended) standard has the same scope as the superseded 
standard. On the date stated, the superseded standard ceases to give 
presumption of conformity with the essential or other requirements of the 
relevant Union legislation     |  01/11/2005   |


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Re: [PSES] EN 50370-1/-2

[John Woodgate]

The 2005 and 2008 dates are the dates beyond which the Generic standards are 
not to be used. They are examples of the famous docopocoss – the date of 
cessation of presumption of compliance of the superseded standard. 
 
So you must use EN 50370-1 and -2.
 
With best wishes OOO – Own Opinions Only   
www.jmwa.demon.co.uk
J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England
 
From: Mel Soliven [mailto:mel_soli...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:25 AM
To: John Woodgate ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: EN 50370-1/-2
 
Dear Experts,
 
I would like to know your view with regards to the Product standards for 
machine tools as per below. It mentioned that the date of cessation was 2008 & 
2005 respectively. For the On-site testing ( Manufacturer's Premises), I 
believe this standard can still be usable for the fact that; we are using EN 
50370 as reference, but we are not actually showing full compliance to EN50370. 
We are showing that, by referencing an EMC standard typical for the type of 
equipment (and EMC environment), that the argument of compliance with the 
Directive Essential Requirements is good. In an EMC Technical File, we are 
arguing compliance with the Directive, not particular Standards. 
This means that, in actual fact, it doesn't really matter which product/generic 
standard is referenced when testing in situ, but logic says (due to the 
definitions) that EN50370 is more appropriate than EN61000-6-x.
 
Any insights are welcome.
 
Many thanks in advance,
 

Cenelec
EN 50370-1:2005 
Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Product family standard for machine tools 
- Part 1: Emission
Relevant generic standard(s)

 
 Note 2.1  
01/02/2008  

Cenelec
EN 50370-2:2003 
Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Product family standard for machine tools 
- Part 2: Immunity
Relevant generic standard(s)

Note 2.1: The new (or amended) standard has the same scope as the superseded 
standard. On the date stated, the superseded standard ceases to give 
presumption of conformity with the essential or other requirements of the 
relevant Union legislation
01/11/2005  
 

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