Re: [Emc-users] oversize transformer question

2007-10-16 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Pictor wrote:
> What are the drawbacks of an oversized transformer?  Bulky, not as
> efficient, ???
> 
> The one I am looking at is a little over 2 times the size I
> guesstimated that I need.  At $100+ for shipping, I'm not sure if
> it's worth it or not.  It would allow future expansion, but would
> probably still be overkill.
There are lots of transformers out there.  I sure wouldn't pay 
$100 shipping for a transformer except in very special cases!
There HAS to be a better deal somewhere, unless this is a 5+ KVA
transformer, or you need it FedEx'ed next day.

Jon

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[Emc-users] oversize transformer question

2007-10-16 Thread Mark Pictor
What are the drawbacks of an oversized transformer?  Bulky, not as
efficient, ???

The one I am looking at is a little over 2 times the size I
guesstimated that I need.  At $100+ for shipping, I'm not sure if
it's worth it or not.  It would allow future expansion, but would
probably still be overkill.

Thanks
Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] Threading Hickups

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:06:29PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> With the spindle running, you should see 
> regularly-spaced narrow pulses on index.  If they are not 
> regularly spaced, you are picking up noise on the encoder index 
> channel.

If you are getting some threading passes in the wrong place, I
agree this is what's happening.


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Re: [Emc-users] Threading Hickups

2007-10-16 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote:
> After having some success with my tuning, I went back to making threads
> without much success. Randomly, but close to every third or fourth pass
> comes out being about a half thread off. I have Halscope graphs here:
> 
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/emc2/g76-bad.png
> 
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/emc2/g76-good.png
> 
What you want to do is put ppmc.0.encoder.02.position, (or 
whichever axis is the spindle encoder),
ppmc.0.encoder.02.index-enable and ppmc.0.encoder.02.index on 
the halscope.  With the spindle running, you should see 
regularly-spaced narrow pulses on index.  If they are not 
regularly spaced, you are picking up noise on the encoder index 
channel.
> They aren't annotated but have the same configuration as my other
> graphs. 
> 
> For a reference, I put a bar in the collet and touched off. I invoked my
> G76 program and E-stopped after the first pass. I then touched-off X
> such that the cutter came close to the bar, but not touching on the last
> pass of the G76. I re-ran the program and screen copied good an bad
> passes determined by comparing the tool position to the reference pass I
> made at the beginning. I can't really see much difference between the
> "good" and "bad" graphs ,but there was an obvious indication with the
> tool and reference pass.


I don't actually see much difference in the two graphs except 
for the trigger point.  But, then the computer doesn't know the 
wrong place has been picked up by the encoder index signal, so 
the graphs shouldn't look different.  But, if you display the 
enocder index signal too, then you will clearly see if there is 
an index in the wrong place.

> 
> I assume that the spike in the spindle velocity data is due to a counter
> reset at the start of each pass?
> 
> Another problem, that I had read about a while back, cropped up too.
> When I invoke the touch-off dialog, I get a "Bad Number" error unless
> the first thing I do is forward arrow and leave at least the original
> leading zero in the data entry box.
The message just means whatever is in the box isn't valid - just 
correct the characters in the box.  For instance, "-" or "." are 
invalid all by themselves, but "-.5" is OK.

Jon

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[Emc-users] Threading Hickups

2007-10-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
After having some success with my tuning, I went back to making threads
without much success. Randomly, but close to every third or fourth pass
comes out being about a half thread off. I have Halscope graphs here:

http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/emc2/g76-bad.png

http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/emc2/g76-good.png

They aren't annotated but have the same configuration as my other
graphs. 

For a reference, I put a bar in the collet and touched off. I invoked my
G76 program and E-stopped after the first pass. I then touched-off X
such that the cutter came close to the bar, but not touching on the last
pass of the G76. I re-ran the program and screen copied good an bad
passes determined by comparing the tool position to the reference pass I
made at the beginning. I can't really see much difference between the
"good" and "bad" graphs ,but there was an obvious indication with the
tool and reference pass.

I assume that the spike in the spindle velocity data is due to a counter
reset at the start of each pass?

Another problem, that I had read about a while back, cropped up too.
When I invoke the touch-off dialog, I get a "Bad Number" error unless
the first thing I do is forward arrow and leave at least the original
leading zero in the data entry box.

Any help with these would be appreciated.

-- 
Kirk Wallace (California, USA
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
Hardinge HNC lathe
Bridgeport mill conversion pending
Zubal lathe conversion pending)


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Re: [Emc-users] Can anyone recomend me some Stepper Motor Drive

2007-10-16 Thread John Thornton
A good place to start is:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl

John


On 15 Oct 2007 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello everybody, i'm trying to make my own CNC Machine with EMC based
> as control,  and i dont know how start, i mean what Stepper motor
> drive interface i need, or if exist some guide to build one,  maybe
> i'm can build it, i has see some examples in internet using Darling
> Transistors, .. i has read about the Parallel port .. but something is
> no clear.
> 
> For example, what is your recomendation about the Driver card for
> Parallel port and.. motors, if anyone can recomend me a brand and type
> of servo motors for start my experiment, i want to attach in Milling
> machine, but for start.. i only want test..
> 
> I'm not sure but, i think, i need a Stepper motor drive interface with
> the capacity for use motors, depends of the capacity ... what amp have
> that motor, how much big is.. what voltage.. and that thinks..
> 
> Well excuse me for all that questions.. mm if anyone have a guide
> about how to build a prototype or a list of hardware to test EMC
> linux, please answer Thanks in advance guys!!



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