[Emc-users] Modbus Serial Card CNC4PC

2007-12-25 Thread John Thornton
Anyone use the modbus serial card with EMC2? It has 4 bit analog input that 
could 
tell me my arc voltage... Also the control pendant they sell could be used with 
the 
modbus card... Any drawbacks to using this?

Thanks
John

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 25 December 2007, ben lipkowitz wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007, Geert De Pecker wrote:
 To do threading on the lathe is the end goal. I'm still in the
 development phase for the encoder bit. Want to make it myself
 (see part of drawing at http://users.skynet.be/gedp/FILES/index.html).

Geert,
   There are some .ps files floating around that can be used to print your
own optical encoders, and since postscript is a programming language they
are relatively easily modified to do weird stuff such as in
http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/encoder-panelized.ps

however i find postscript can be hard to understand sometimes, so i
rewrote it in python:
http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/draw_encoder.py

Humm, I must not have enough python installed, it runs quickly with no errors 
to stdout, and makes a 491 byte file that acroread can't open, no pages 
found.

I used to think I knew something about ps. I'll try that too. But that isn't 
the type I had in mind, this is digitizing.  Looks great for that though. :)

hope this proves useful to someone
   -fenn

Thanks Ben.

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
A while back, I tried printing an encoder with my CAD program. I didn't
get very good results. My laser printer's resolution, which is great for
printing documents, was lousy for encoders. What resolution and how
small a disk is possible with your method? Although, I suppose for a
spindle, a larger size and lower resolution is more appropriate. I am
still looking into a magnetic encoder for clean but oily environments.

On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 06:19 +, ben lipkowitz wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Dec 2007, Geert De Pecker wrote:
 
  To do threading on the lathe is the end goal. I'm still in the
  development phase for the encoder bit. Want to make it myself
  (see part of drawing at http://users.skynet.be/gedp/FILES/index.html).
 
 Geert,
There are some .ps files floating around that can be used to print your 
 own optical encoders, and since postscript is a programming language they 
 are relatively easily modified to do weird stuff such as in
 http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/encoder-panelized.ps
 
 however i find postscript can be hard to understand sometimes, so i 
 rewrote it in python:
 http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/draw_encoder.py
 
 hope this proves useful to someone
-fenn

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http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
Hardinge HNC lathe,
Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
Zubal lathe conversion pending)


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Re: [Emc-users] Fw: EMC ignoring G2 codes

2007-12-25 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 09:17:49PM +0200, Alex Joni wrote:
 I only forward the email because the original post was too big to fit on 
 the list,
 I removed the attached image, and put it up at:
 http://imagebin.org/12581
 
 It will only be there for a couple of days though..

Thanks Alex!

 This apparent Z level sensitivity is interesting. The machine boundaries
 are set at (X -0.01, 6.67), (Y -2.73, 0.01), (Z -6.78, 0.01) putting the
 home origin in the top left upper corner. The part (G54) is then zeroed
 in absolute coord (X2.9361, Y-1.5052, Z-2.1691). All the tool paths
 appear well within the boundaries and I can see no logical reason for
 this dependency. I've restarted the program a number of times during
 these investigations and with the same z zero the errant behaviour is
 repeatable.

I used exactly these values and still couldn't reproduce it.  If it
is repeatable right now on your system, would you tar up your whole
configuration directory and send it to me please.  The exact G54
offsets etc. will be preserved in the var file.


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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-25 Thread ben lipkowitz
I would feel confident printing 256 lines on a 2 inch diameter encoder, 
with my 600 dpi HP laserjet 1018, but I haven't tried it out with a sensor 
yet. At 512 lines, the spacing between lines starts to look uneven.

A 7 inch disc with 1024 lines looks pretty good.

Kinko's has 1200 dpi laser printers...

Here is a sample output for anyone who has trouble running the python 
program: (60mm dia 256 lines)
http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/encoder.pdf

I'd be happy to run any set of parameters, just ask.

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007, Kirk Wallace wrote:

 A while back, I tried printing an encoder with my CAD program. I didn't
 get very good results. My laser printer's resolution, which is great for
 printing documents, was lousy for encoders. What resolution and how
 small a disk is possible with your method? Although, I suppose for a
 spindle, a larger size and lower resolution is more appropriate. I am
 still looking into a magnetic encoder for clean but oily environments.

 On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 06:19 +, ben lipkowitz wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Dec 2007, Geert De Pecker wrote:

 To do threading on the lathe is the end goal. I'm still in the
 development phase for the encoder bit. Want to make it myself
 (see part of drawing at http://users.skynet.be/gedp/FILES/index.html).

 Geert,
There are some .ps files floating around that can be used to print your
 own optical encoders, and since postscript is a programming language they
 are relatively easily modified to do weird stuff such as in
 http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/encoder-panelized.ps

 however i find postscript can be hard to understand sometimes, so i
 rewrote it in python:
 http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/draw_encoder.py

 hope this proves useful to someone
-fenn


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[Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card.

2007-12-25 Thread Peter Homann
Hi,

Just a quick not before I head bush for the Christmas camping trip.

For additional I/O via Modbus have a look at the ModIO. It has discrete inputs 
and outputs, analog inputs, a 20x4 character LCD interface, plus a few other 
interfaces.

http://homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=2products_id=4

Currently I have been adding toolchanger modules including one for the EMCO 
toolchanger and one for a Hardinge toolchanger.

Cheers,

Peter.

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-25 Thread Dave Engvall
Good try. KPR is a photoresist made by Kodak. It is good enough to do  
wafers.

It needs reasonably energetic UV to polymerize and then toluene to  
dissolve off the non-polymerized part for etching.

D
On Dec 25, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:

 KPR?

 Kentucky Paranormal Research
 Kawartha Pine Ridge District Public School Board

 On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 15:42 -0800, Dave Engvall wrote:
 If anyone wants to etch a disc I can probably find an 30 mL or so of
 KPR.

 For best resolution make a 4X image and then photoreduce 4X on to
 film and use that to expose the
 KPR. It makes beautiful circuit  boards that way.

 Dave

 Another thought that comes to mind is that, when I was looking into
 making my own encoders, my design used a disk and two masks. The masks
 were a portion of the disk placed one half line width apart on the  
 disk,
 such that one or the other went black at half line intervals. This
 allows you to have a large sensing area, and average out disk image
 errors. This doesn't account for the index though. I guess you would
 need a separate short lined section and another mask.

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 http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
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 Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
 Zubal lathe conversion pending)


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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote:
 If anyone wants to etch a disc I can probably find an 30 mL or so of  
 KPR.
 
KPR is abominable to work with.  I have DuPont Riston dry film 
photoresist.  I have laminated it onto .005 and .003 brass 
shim stock with my dry film laminator machine.  It has heated 
Silicone-coated rollers that press the film onto the substrate. 
  I have to shim the bottom side with cardboard as the machine 
was set for .062 PC board material.

I make two mirror-image films on my photoplotter and align them 
on a light box before wrapping them around the laminated shim 
stock, then expose, develop and etch like a PC board.  I still 
get some undercutting, my ferric chloride may be worn out.

I've been using this to make solder paste stencils for SMT 
circuit boards, but one could make an encoder with similar 
technology.


Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-25 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote:
 KPR?
 
 Kentucky Paranormal Research
 Kawartha Pine Ridge District Public School Board
Kodak Photo Resist, a Xylene-based organic photo resist that is 
hardened by exposure to UV light.  It is very old school and 
not only requires nasty chemicals, but is quite fragile.  The 
aqueous-based developer for Riston photo resist is washing soda, 
and the stripper is a weak lye solution, I get both on my hands 
without harm.

Jon

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