[Emc-users] Xfig install problems

2008-03-08 Thread aaron Moore
Hi All
I am having trouble installing xfig for generating gcode.  When I try to 
install transfig I get Error:Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6.  Libc6 is 
installed as far as I can see.  I am running Dapper and have just insatlled all 
patches.
Can any one offer any help, or is there another open source option for turning 
drawings into gcode?
Thanks
Aaron

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Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers

2008-03-08 Thread Gary Corlew
If you would like to try building your own here are some links,
http://www.cnc-projects.de/ - look at cnc-revolver
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46771
I ran across one other also that use pins to lock into position, But I don't 
remember the web site at the moment
- Original Message - 
From: Kirk Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers


 On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:05 -0500, Dave Keeton wrote:
 If it is like a Barrafaldi or a Duplomatic I can help..I have 
 installed
 both of these...It looks alot like them and I would assume they use 
 the
 same kind of encoder. Reading the encoder is fairly easy using ladder, If
 you happen to have FAPT Ladder III editing software I can send you what I
 wrote for this. I installed a Duplomatic turret on a Fanuc 21i TB 
 controlled
 lathe about 6 months ago. Alot of these turrets are built and operate 
 pretty
 much the same. I can get you the time and operation sequence if you need 
 it.
 Timing on these turrets is critical. Control (including propagation 
 delay)
 should be very accurate to +- 10ms or it will mis-index. What questions 
 do
 you have?

 I have my Hardinge HNC turret working through an HAL module. Part of
 what makes EMC and HAL so cool is that it allows someone with my skills
 to make it work.

 I am looking for general design examples, in order to try to come up
 with a design for lathe tool changers for Sherline and bench-top class
 machines. The issues that are bothering me now are how to stop the
 turret in eight positions, with high accuracy and rigidity. The Hardinge
 accomplishes this by having just one broad and short zero clearance
 interface between the movable turret table and the carriage. Plus a
 pneumatic piston which clamps evenly across the table. I won't be using
 pneumatics, so I can't utilize the Hardinge design for clamping. And the
 other examples I have seen don't have the two direction motion (rise
 rotate, park) of the Hardinge, suggesting a different internal design
 altogether.

 Checking the Barufaldi and Duplomatic links:
 http://www.baruffaldi.it/eng/interne/prodotti/macchine_utensili/index.html
 http://www.duplomatic.com/duplomatic/auto/uk/2/frame2.html
 reminded me that I need to worry about live tooling too. ;)

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 http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
 Hardinge HNC lathe,
 Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
 Zubal lathe conversion pending)


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Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers

2008-03-08 Thread Dave Keeton
Kirk,
 You are correct, This actually done with with a cam. The turret 
reaches position and then reverses direction for 50ms. This allows a 
solonoid fired locking pin to disengage. The pin is used to locate the 
turret on position while the curvic coupling is engaged to lock it in 
position. The squence goes like this..
   1. Unclamp the turret and engage the motor starter for 
say clockwise rotation
   2. When the turret is in between the called tool and the 
position before it, engaged the locking pin and let it ride on the cam ring.
   3. When the turret reaches the called tool, the locking 
pin drops into the cam ring slot to stop the turret.
A proximity switch is used to confirm this has 
happened. Clockwise starter disengages.
   4.  Counter clockwise motor starter is engaged for 50ms 
to allow the locking pin to retract and the indexing pin to engage in its 
hole. Proxy switches are used to confirm both has happened.
   5. The motor counter clockwise starter disengages, the 
motor brake is applied, then the turret clamps into to the coupling and the 
index pin is retracted.
   6. The tool position is reported to the CNC software and 
the proper tool offset is called up.
   7. Cycle complete.

As the turret rotates a 200ms timer is used between each tool position to 
drop out the motor if a collision occurs during rotation. The timer is reset 
while passing each tool position during rotation. Most electric turrets have 
a thermal cut out on the motor to protect it from being damaged if a 
collision occurs. There are 6 bits on the encoder...
TPS 1,2,3,4,Parity and Strobe the first 4 are positional Bits, 
Parity is used to confirm The first 4 bits are correct and strobe is fired 
once per tool position.

  Dave


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From: Kirk Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers


 On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 20:50 -0500, Dave Keeton wrote:
 Our Mazak Lathe has a turret that uses a belville spring washers in a
 friction brake. The nice thing about it is that when a collision occurs 
 the
 turret is pretty easy to get back on centerline. It uses a shot pin to
 locate that is pulled back out when it is clamped. It is hydraulic
 though.It has live tooling also.we never use the live tooling 
 except
 tapping every so often.. If you use pins to locate and hold the tool
 drum in place it is more difficult to align after collision.I am not 
 to
 sure about the disc brake idea.Seems like tool pressure might make it
 slipcould be dangerous in a power failure also..

 Dave

 So is the turret located by engaging a pin, setting a brake and then
 retracting the pin so that only the brake friction holds the turret
 position during machining? I assumed that with a tool crash that you
 would either break the tool, holder or turret.

 Rumor has it that a small lathe tool changer is available from Emco
 which can be seen at the bottom of the page here:

 http://www.emco.co.uk/pct55.htm

 I hear that it has a pawl on the turret drive shaft. The turret motor
 drives the turret until the pawl falls into the location for the desired
 tool. It then reverses against the pawl to lock it, take out all slop
 and get the final position. The turret rotates in a direction such that
 the cutting forces are also against the pawl, but apparently the pawl
 can flex under heavy cuts. This design has the advantage of being very
 simple, maybe even elegant.
 -- 
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 http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
 Hardinge HNC lathe,
 Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
 Zubal lathe conversion pending)


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[Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-08 Thread Dale Ertley
Hello All,
   
  Does anyone have the knowledge and/or software to decompile the PAL 
(Programmable Application Logic) files from an Allen Bradley 8400MP CNC 
control? 
   
  I have the 2 files from the Hi and Low EPROMs. They were saved as Hex, ASCI, 
and BIN files.
   
  The data from these files would be a good starting place for developing a 
Classic Ladder file now that I am upgrading my machine to EMC2.  I have ordered 
a Motenc board.
   
  Thank you
  Dale Ertley
   

   
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Re: [Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-08 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 09:03 -0800, Dale Ertley wrote:
 Hello All,  Does anyone have the knowledge and/or software to
 decompile
  the PAL (Programmable Application Logic) files from an Allen Bradley
   8400MP CNC control?   I have the 2 files from the Hi and Low EPROMs.
  They were saved as Hex, ASCI, and BIN files.  The data from these
   files would be a good starting place for developing a Classic Ladder
  file now that I am upgrading my machine to EMC2.  I have ordered a
   Motenc board.  Thank you Dale Ertley

What kind of machine are you converting? If the mechanics are not that 
complicated, I wonder if you would be better off starting from scratch. 
Sometimes a machine will have a number of separate simple systems that 
only look complicated if viewed as a whole. To me, it sounds like 
decompiling ROMs is complicated from the start.

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Zubal lathe conversion pending)


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Re: [Emc-users] Bricscad

2008-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 March 2008, Gene Heskett wrote:
I downloaded the tgz and unpacked it, which supp[oseely has a 30 day trial
option.  However, I can't get past the license key requester to soo how its
supposed to look, and there appears not to be a temp key in the archive.

Does anyone know how to make the limited time demo mode run?

I also looked at synergy, sweet!

Update on synergy:  Thinking if I can figure out how to use it, I might even 
buy it although the extras are outragiously high.

But, so far on this F8 box, I have only gotten to the end of one of the demo 
sessions, all the rest have taken X down with a signal 11 after about 100 
operations.  I see the last rpm is for RH9, which is now pretty prehistoric 
so I suspect a glibc incompatibility even though I'm running the tgz version.

And I've made many attempts to load a very simple .DWG file from the schools 
autocad install of a friend of mine, with absolutely zero success.  He has 
sent me pdf's but I can't make gcode out of a pdf.

Does it (synergy) run ok on the kubuntu-6.06 that emc is built on?

And I still haven't found a method to allow bricscad to run.  Anybody else 
have it working?

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