Re: [Emc-users] Live CD RTAI version ??

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff Epler
You can find the version number of any installed package at the
terminal:

$ dpkg -l rtai-modules-2.6.15-magma
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  rtai-modules-2 3.3-1+aj4  rtai modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15-magma)

Thus, the rtai on this system (installed from the emc2 dapper live cd) is based
on rtai 3.3.

I determined the correct package name using 'dpkg-query -S', which says
what package name is associated with a particular installed file:

$ dpkg -S /usr/realtime-2.6.15-magma/bin/rtai-load
rtai-modules-2.6.15-magma: /usr/realtime-2.6.15-magma/bin/rtai-load

I could also have used a wildcard with dpkg -l, guessing that the
package name started with rtai:

$ dpkg -l rtai\*
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  rtai-modules-2 3.3-1+aj4  rtai modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15-magma)

(some command output trimmed a bit for clarity)

Jeff

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[Emc-users] Chip Load for Drilling

2008-03-27 Thread John Thornton
Here is the link for the chipload drilling article. Took me a while to find 
it...

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?p=862651#post862651

Enjoy
John
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[Emc-users] Index only homing

2008-03-27 Thread f m
I see from the change log that index only homing was
added at 2.2.0, but I haven't found anything that
tells me how to implement this. I'm using a direct
drive servo as a rotary axis, and the index pulse is
too short for the normal homing sequence to work. 

Thanks, 

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Re: [Emc-users] Index only homing

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff Epler
In your .hal file, connect the index-enable pin of the encoder counter
and the associated axis.N.index-enable.

In your .ini file, set HOME_SEARCH_VEL to 0 (or omit it), and set
HOME_LATCH_VEL to the speed at which you want to move during the search
for index.

To home, ensure that the motor is within the first revolution before
the index you designate as home, then hit the Home or Home All button in
the GUI.

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config_ini_homing.html#HOME%20LATCH%20VEL
 -- it is documented, but pretty cryptically.

Jeff

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Re: [Emc-users] Chip Load for Drilling

2008-03-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 March 2008, John Thornton wrote:
Here is the link for the chipload drilling article. Took me a while to find
 it...

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?p=862651#post862651

Enjoy
John

Thanks, John.  I could have used that today, I broke a 0.050 bit in cast 
iron, about 1/4 down on the second peck by mouse control,  another .3 to 
go.  I wound up moving the hole, but not quite far enough  dinged up a 
1/4-28 tap on the remains.  Using a properly programmed peck cycle, I imagine 
I can do the next one just fine by following that advice.  I was installing a 
grease fitting, and that was the channel into the bearing bore.

I got all the parts to put ball bearing thrust washers in the screw bearings 
of my micromill today, so I ran out and put in the first pair.  Sweet!  No 
more squalling screws  the backlash is now .0004!  I can't wait to get the 
other axis done, but this cold rain ran me out of the shop till it warms a 
bit again.

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Re: [Emc-users] Index only homing

2008-03-27 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Jeff,

regarding the rotary encoder homing on a linear axis...

We use a similar system, but use an additional prox switch
that says, 'the home is inside THIS revolution'.
I use it on a device where the encoder is on a worm
gear that turns 90x for every 360 of a C axis.

But the idea should apply to a rotary encoder on a linear axis.

Some hal-foo is needed for the 'close to home' prox switch.

Oh, beware being too close to the prox's edge ;)
Try to have 'home' at least 1/2 turn past 'close to home'.

regards
TomP



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Re: [Emc-users] Index only homing

2008-03-27 Thread Dave Engvall

On Mar 27, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Jeff Epler wrote:

 In your .hal file, connect the index-enable pin of the encoder counter
 and the associated axis.N.index-enable.

 In your .ini file, set HOME_SEARCH_VEL to 0 (or omit it), and set
 HOME_LATCH_VEL to the speed at which you want to move during the  
 search
 for index.

 To home, ensure that the motor is within the first revolution before
 the index you designate as home, then hit the Home or Home All  
 button in
 the GUI.
ensure that the encoder is within one turn of home; this then takes  
care of encoders on the motor or on the
ballscrew.  Just being picky. ;-) Having a starting point that is 1/2  
turn off is really ideal.

 http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config_ini_homing.html#HOME%20LATCH% 
 20VEL
  -- it is documented, but pretty cryptically.

 Jeff

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Re: [Emc-users] How to set certain AXIS settings to defaults?

2008-03-27 Thread Glenn R. Edwards
Jon,

Are you implying that you manually, or otherwise, get the table to within
one encoder revolution of home and then do a homing sequence with EMC?

Glenn

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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How to set certain AXIS settings to defaults?

Gary Fixler wrote:
 One of the reasons I often drill a useless hole someplace at the
 start of the
 project, and write my code with that as the 0,0,0 point.  That makes
 getting
 back to within a couple thou a bit easier.
 
 
 That's a great idea. I would love an absolute positioning system - 
 something that was always the same for the mill, at least between full 
 strip-downs, and rebuilds.
 
Well, it depends on how your homing system works.  I have index pulses on my
encoders, and home to those pulses.  I get quite repeatable homing that way.
In theory, I could shut down one day, fire it up the next day, home the
axes, and be right on the same alignment to the vise jaw or whatever.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Chip Load for Drilling

2008-03-27 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:42:24PM -0600, John Thornton wrote:
 Here is the link for the chipload drilling article. Took me a while to find 
 it...
 
 http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?p=862651#post862651

John,

   Interesting thread, especially KAwhoom-FLAP!, but scrolling up 
down several times didn't reveal anything I could recognise as an
article or link thereto. Is the chat in the thread the article, or did
I blink?

   It seemed a good deal more flamboyant than recent informative
description of experience with hard and soft aluminium, on this list, I
thought.

Erik

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