Re: [Emc-users] dxf2gcode
Funny, I never noticed that! The website is in German but the program is in English. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 23:25, tomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Emory Smith wrote: > ... >> As Jon said, EMC uses G-Code but many CAD programs have the ability >> to export in DXF format. If you can do this, then check out: >> >> http://www.christian-kohloeffel.homepage.t-online.de/dxf2gocde.html >> >> > yes it is gocde not gcode :) > thanks for the link > tomp > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- "Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it." Emory -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] dxf2gcode
Emory Smith wrote: ... > As Jon said, EMC uses G-Code but many CAD programs have the ability > to export in DXF format. If you can do this, then check out: > > http://www.christian-kohloeffel.homepage.t-online.de/dxf2gocde.html > > yes it is gocde not gcode :) thanks for the link tomp -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Testing
As Jon said, EMC uses G-Code but many CAD programs have the ability to export in DXF format. If you can do this, then check out: http://www.christian-kohloeffel.homepage.t-online.de/dxf2gocde.html This fellow has written a DXF to G-code converter that works with everything I've thrown at it. YMMV. Again, as Jon said, Linux isn't the issue. On a network, it can look like just another networked Windows machine and can read FAT, FAT32 and NTFS formatted USB thumb/flash disks if there's no net available. Transferring your files is trivial once you learn the Linux way of doing things. And please do. It'll take some time and you will have questions. There are people here who can help you through your journey. Good luck and welcome to the "club"!, E On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 22:28, Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ftec wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> Testing if I'm on the list now but I also have a question. >> >> Was looking for 4 to 5 axis cnc sw for a home built cnc machine and found >> this list making me very interested. >> >> What I would like to know is if there is a way to combine emc and cad designs >> done with win based cad sw. If so, how? I can export part files in IGES, >> STL, >> STEP, Catia, ProE and a few other formats. I have never used Linux but then >> there always must be the first time, right? >> > Linux really isn't the issue. EMC takes G-code (technically RS274-D) a > language for motion control used by most machine tools. > I think IGES is a graphical exchange format for exchanging printed > documents electronically. STL is a system for describing a volume, good > for rapid prototyping with a variety of systems that usually make > plastic models layer by layer. Catia and ProE are specific CAD drawing > programs, not a language for interchanging mchining info. They and many > others have a facility to output G-code at varying levels of sophistication. > > Jon > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- "Those that forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it." Emory -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Testing
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ftec wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> Testing if I'm on the list now but I also have a question. >> >> Was looking for 4 to 5 axis cnc sw for a home built cnc machine and found >> this list making me very interested. >> >> What I would like to know is if there is a way to combine emc and cad designs >> done with win based cad sw. If so, how? I can export part files in IGES, >> STL, >> STEP, Catia, ProE and a few other formats. I have never used Linux but then >> there always must be the first time, right? You should look for a Gcode generator program (ie. Mastercam, Smartcam, etc). You can find some Linux Gcode generator programs. Most are windows based. Does your CAD software have a manufacturing package? I would explore that first. You will use the output of the Gcode generator program in EMC2. >> > Linux really isn't the issue. EMC takes G-code (technically RS274-D) a > language for motion control used by most machine tools. > I think IGES is a graphical exchange format for exchanging printed > documents electronically. STL is a system for describing a volume, good > for rapid prototyping with a variety of systems that usually make > plastic models layer by layer. Catia and ProE are specific CAD drawing > programs, not a language for interchanging mchining info. They and many > others have a facility to output G-code at varying levels of sophistication. > > Jon > IGES (IGS) is a standard for geometry exchange. It is widely used for export and import of 2D and 3D graphics definitions. STEP is another standard used for geometry exchange. STEP is newer than IGES. There is data loss and/or corruption in any and all data converters but most will allow the manufacture of good parts. Data for use in EMC2 (or other control) can be derived from IGES data. The data must be converted into a form usable by the Gcode generator program (of your choice). The IGES data is imported into the Gcode generator program through the IGES converter (usually supplied by the authors of the Gcode generator program). Then the NC programmer can use the Gcode generator program to output a program usable by EMC2 (or other control). There are many Gcode generator programs including some attempts to go direct from IGES/STEP to Gcode. The path is ever changing and evolving. Have fun Stuart > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Testing
ftec wrote: > Hello folks, > > Testing if I'm on the list now but I also have a question. > > Was looking for 4 to 5 axis cnc sw for a home built cnc machine and found > this list making me very interested. > > What I would like to know is if there is a way to combine emc and cad designs > done with win based cad sw. If so, how? I can export part files in IGES, > STL, > STEP, Catia, ProE and a few other formats. I have never used Linux but then > there always must be the first time, right? > Linux really isn't the issue. EMC takes G-code (technically RS274-D) a language for motion control used by most machine tools. I think IGES is a graphical exchange format for exchanging printed documents electronically. STL is a system for describing a volume, good for rapid prototyping with a variety of systems that usually make plastic models layer by layer. Catia and ProE are specific CAD drawing programs, not a language for interchanging mchining info. They and many others have a facility to output G-code at varying levels of sophistication. Jon -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] traverse feed rate
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working with a 3-axis-table mill. Driving the mill in manual mode > respects the override as well as the traverse rate controller. > > However, once I issue a G0-command, only the override is used - the > traverse rate is incredibly high & thus makes the machine getting pretty > worked up. > G0 is a rapid - that means the machine will move at the MAX_VELOCITY specified in the ini file. Note that the ini file numbers are in inches (or mm) per second, not per minute. > So I wonder - how can I influence the G0 traverse rate? Set MAX_VELOCITY in the [TRAJ] or [AXIS_n] sections of the ini file (or both). The TRAJ section affects movement in any direction, the [AXIS_n] sections only affect movement along that axis. For example, if X and Y both have max velocities of 1.0, a 45 degree diagonal move might go as fast as 1.4 inches per second. If you set the [TRAJ] value to 1.0, then that speed should never be exceeded. Regards, John Kasunich -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Testing
Hello folks, Testing if I'm on the list now but I also have a question. Was looking for 4 to 5 axis cnc sw for a home built cnc machine and found this list making me very interested. What I would like to know is if there is a way to combine emc and cad designs done with win based cad sw. If so, how? I can export part files in IGES, STL, STEP, Catia, ProE and a few other formats. I have never used Linux but then there always must be the first time, right? Thanks, Risto -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Jon Elson wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:59:32 -0600
> From: Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
>
> Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>> With the 9805, I can see that the strobe ends in response to my wait signal,
>> but the data is sampled somewhere around the falling (leading) edge of the
>> strobe. I thought about an error caused by the port seeing /wait asserted too
>> early so even tried putting a fair sized cap at the parallel port end of
>> /wait, this slowed the handshake, but did not help reading tha data at the
>> right time. Only way I could thnk of making the NetMos cards read right is by
>> supplying read data when READ is high, but thats too ugly (bus conflicts etc)
>> to consider seriously.
>>
>>
> I wonder if this is an EPP 1.7 version of the chip? I think what you
> are talking about is similar to the 1.7/1.9 difference.
> The date code on my chip seems too late to be 1.7, 2003.
> It is an NM9805CV. But, I suspect it is popped, I couldn't get it to do
> anything.
>
> Jon
See Sebastian's Email, The MosChip 98XX series of chips EPP mode is just plain
busted...
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Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > I signed up for an account at MosChip.com, after that they let me see > their docs. Their FAQ for the 9805 says this: > > MosChip 9805 FAQ: > >> An additional problem exists with EPP Mode. We have identified a timing >> problem >> in the chip that affects reading data from the remote device in EPP Mode. We >> are >> able to write data to the device (printer etc.) just fine under all >> conditions. The >> problem only affects reading data back from the device (scanner etc.) in EPP >> Mode. >> The symptoms result in the same Byte of data being returned for every read >> request. >> This problem does not affect ECP Mode. For this reason we recommend PS/2 or >> ECP Modes for applications that require bi-directional data transfers. >> > > > So yeah, the manufacturer admits that their hardware is broken, not much > anyone can do about that... Unfortunately WELL! That really answers that one, no need to spend any more time thinking about that particular device! They only made a million or so of these cards, too! Jon -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
Peter C. Wallace wrote: > With the 9805, I can see that the strobe ends in response to my wait signal, > but the data is sampled somewhere around the falling (leading) edge of the > strobe. I thought about an error caused by the port seeing /wait asserted too > early so even tried putting a fair sized cap at the parallel port end of > /wait, this slowed the handshake, but did not help reading tha data at the > right time. Only way I could thnk of making the NetMos cards read right is by > supplying read data when READ is high, but thats too ugly (bus conflicts etc) > to consider seriously. > > I wonder if this is an EPP 1.7 version of the chip? I think what you are talking about is similar to the 1.7/1.9 difference. The date code on my chip seems too late to be 1.7, 2003. It is an NM9805CV. But, I suspect it is popped, I couldn't get it to do anything. Jon -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] traverse feed rate
Hi, I'm working with a 3-axis-table mill. Driving the mill in manual mode respects the override as well as the traverse rate controller. However, once I issue a G0-command, only the override is used - the traverse rate is incredibly high & thus makes the machine getting pretty worked up. So I wonder - how can I influence the G0 traverse rate? EMC version should be a recent 2.2. Diez -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:34:59 -0700
> From: Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
>
> Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>> With the 9805, I can see that the strobe ends in response to my wait signal,
>> but the data is sampled somewhere around the falling (leading) edge of the
>> strobe. I thought about an error caused by the port seeing /wait asserted too
>> early so even tried putting a fair sized cap at the parallel port end of
>> /wait, this slowed the handshake, but did not help reading tha data at the
>> right time. Only way I could thnk of making the NetMos cards read right is by
>> supplying read data when READ is high, but thats too ugly (bus conflicts etc)
>> to consider seriously.
>
> I signed up for an account at MosChip.com, after that they let me see
> their docs. Their FAQ for the 9805 says this:
>
> MosChip 9805 FAQ:
>> An additional problem exists with EPP Mode. We have identified a timing
>> problem
>> in the chip that affects reading data from the remote device in EPP Mode. We
>> are
>> able to write data to the device (printer etc.) just fine under all
>> conditions. The
>> problem only affects reading data back from the device (scanner etc.) in EPP
>> Mode.
>> The symptoms result in the same Byte of data being returned for every read
>> request.
>> This problem does not affect ECP Mode. For this reason we recommend PS/2 or
>> ECP Modes for applications that require bi-directional data transfers.
>
>
> So yeah, the manufacturer admits that their hardware is broken, not much
> anyone can do about that... Unfortunately.
>
Crap, I have an account there. If I'd just bothered to read the FAQ I could
have saved a lot of 'scope time! I must be getting too old for this. I just
couldn't believe that they could have so basic an error in the most commonly
available parallel port chip out there (15 FPGA configs trying to get it
to work later...)
At least I got really careful with the EPP timing in the latest firmware...
>
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC 2.2.7 + 7i43 + Ted's sample, and same error than using EMC 2.2.6 + 7i43 + Ted's sample.... What now?
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Richard Acosta wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:05:23 -0200
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> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC 2.2.7 + 7i43 + Ted's sample,
> and same error than using EMC 2.2.6 + 7i43 + Ted's sample What now?
>
> I have a 400K version, that line was already been discovered and i
> already checked my card chip (it says 400). Also, when i bought it, i
> asked for this version specifically. It would be more than a mistake if
> i had a 200K instead of a 400K.
How did the DOS testing turn out?
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC 2.2.7 + 7i43 + Ted's sample, and same error than using EMC 2.2.6 + 7i43 + Ted's sample.... What now?
I have a 400K version, that line was already been discovered and i already checked my card chip (it says 400). Also, when i bought it, i asked for this version specifically. It would be more than a mistake if i had a 200K instead of a 400K. El 05/12/2008 12:25 a.m., Stephen Wille Padnos escribió: > You have the 200k gate version, not the 400k gate version. > > I found this out by looking at the error output on line 264 of your pastebin > [ 114.376380] hm2/hm2_7i43.0: board has FPGA '3s200tq144', but the > firmware in hm2/7i43/SVST4_4B.BIT is for FPGA '3s400tq144' > > This relatively difficult to read line shows that you have a 3s200tq144, > but you're trying to load a bitfile for a 3s400tq144 (note 200 vs 400 in > those numbers). > > Change your HAL file so it's looking for firmware without a B at the end > - you need the file hm2/7i43/SVST4_4.BIT. > > It would help if you would also pastebin your configuration files. So > far you have told us the errors you get, but I've never seen the input > you give EMC2 to get them. > -Steve > > Richard Acosta wrote: > > >> http://pastebin.com/m38308b00 >> >> >> > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 on a usb thumb drive
mount it as a CD-RW when you build it? On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, that is exactly what I am seeing. I wonder if there is a way to > make it think it is not a CD? > > Jon Elson wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Has anyone done this? >>> >>> I have a usb thumb drive with the latest .iso live cd installed on it. >>> It boots but I can't seem to make it save settings and changes... I got >>> as far as creating two partitions.. one with the image on it and the >>> other empty formatted ext2 with the name casper-rw. It's a 2 gig >>> drive.When I boot off the drive it automatically mounts the 2nd >>> partition casper-rw. >>> >>> I used the instructions from this link: >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent >>> >>> Also, when I don't boot off the drive I can write to it. >>> >>> >>> >> It is because the system thinks it really IS a CD, and you can't write >> to a CD. >> You may need two pen drives. One holds the iso, the other becomes the >> "hard drive" for EMC2/Ubuntu to be installed to. >> Maybe you can do this with the separate partitions, it depends on the >> coding in the install scripts. >> >> Jon >> >> -- >> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. >> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >> pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
Peter C. Wallace wrote: > With the 9805, I can see that the strobe ends in response to my wait signal, > but the data is sampled somewhere around the falling (leading) edge of the > strobe. I thought about an error caused by the port seeing /wait asserted too > early so even tried putting a fair sized cap at the parallel port end of > /wait, this slowed the handshake, but did not help reading tha data at the > right time. Only way I could thnk of making the NetMos cards read right is by > supplying read data when READ is high, but thats too ugly (bus conflicts etc) > to consider seriously. I signed up for an account at MosChip.com, after that they let me see their docs. Their FAQ for the 9805 says this: MosChip 9805 FAQ: > An additional problem exists with EPP Mode. We have identified a timing > problem > in the chip that affects reading data from the remote device in EPP Mode. We > are > able to write data to the device (printer etc.) just fine under all > conditions. The > problem only affects reading data back from the device (scanner etc.) in EPP > Mode. > The symptoms result in the same Byte of data being returned for every read > request. > This problem does not affect ECP Mode. For this reason we recommend PS/2 or > ECP Modes for applications that require bi-directional data transfers. So yeah, the manufacturer admits that their hardware is broken, not much anyone can do about that... Unfortunately. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code. -- Ken Thompson -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Touch-trigger Probe
John Thornton wrote: >On 10 Dec 2008 at 11:19, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > > >>John Thornton wrote: >> >> >>>A switch will make the in-not True when closed and False when open >>>and the in will be False when closed and True when open. >>> >>> >>That's not necessarily true. Whether the switch is NC or NO makes >>no >>difference. It's whether the switch is normally pulled high, >> >> >I'm guessing your speaking of the input pin on the parallel port not the >switch as the switch >only opens and closes... > > Yes. The switch should have two states, open or closed. >>normally >>pulled low, or normally left floating (which is equivalent to pulled >>high in most cases). >> >> >"A +5V level on the parallel port pin will make the -in pin 1 and the -in-not >pin 0, >a 0V level on the parallel port pin will make -in 0 and -in-not 1." > >The above seems to be the most accurate description but would a newbee >understand? > > I don't know :) > The driver knows that some of the > > >>pins >>are inverted in hardware, and inverts those before setting the state >>of >>the HAL pins. >> >> >I didn't even think of the wiring issue. >The pin could pulled low or high when the switch closes??? >and only floating when the switch is open??? > > Generally, you don't want the pin to float at all. Floating pins are much more susceptible to electrical noise. Here's an ACSII art circuit diagram: +5V 10k resistor parport_pin 50 ohm switch --- ground In the "circuit" above, the input will be "1" when the switch is open and "0" when the switch is closed. You can swap the +5 and ground ends: ground 10k resistor parport_pin 50 ohm switch +5V and the input would then be "0" when the switch is open and "1" when closed. Which is "normal" (ie, NC or NO) makes no difference as far as the pin value in HAL. The *meaning* of the switch being open or closed is dependent on how it's attached to the machine and what it's used for, and that's what drives the decision to connect "-in" or "-in-not" to a particular function. >In most cases when you close your switch would you put +5vdc >on the parallel port pin or 0vdc? > > >>(Not being pedantic here - I just don't want people to see this and >>assume that something is wrong with EMC2 because their input isn't >>working the way this describes) >> >>- Steve >> >> >Steve makes John look up the definition of pedantic :) > > Heh :) - Steve -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Jon Elson wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:03:57 -0600
> From: Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
>
> Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wasted 2 days fscking around with those cards (NetMos = MOSChip 9805 based)
>> I had no trouble getting them into EPP mode, they just dont work right in EPP
>> mode. I got write to work but they seem to sample the read data on the
>> leading
>> edge of the strobe, this is contrary to the EPP specs I've read and every
>> other EPP capable parallel port I have tested. For some more advanced
>> features
>> of HostMot2 to work properly, reads must be qualified by a strobe as some
>> read
>> have side effects (reading FIFOs for example). There is no reliable way to
>> make this work with the MOSChip parts. I hate to admit defeat as these are by
>> far the most common PCI parallel port chips but I give up on MosChip cards.
>>
>>
> Obviously, the par port chip has to wait for a signal from the slave
> device to indicate the data is present before sampling it.
> I had similar problems with some other PCI boards, and found that I was
> gettting crosstalk from strobes and data lines onto the WAIT signal,
> causing the read operation to end and sample too early. I have been
> manually adding a bunch of termination resistors to my boards until I
> can respin the PCBs. Never needed this with the motherboard par ports,
> but the timing, logic levels, etc. of the PCI boards are different.
With the 9805, I can see that the strobe ends in response to my wait signal,
but the data is sampled somewhere around the falling (leading) edge of the
strobe. I thought about an error caused by the port seeing /wait asserted too
early so even tried putting a fair sized cap at the parallel port end of
/wait, this slowed the handshake, but did not help reading tha data at the
right time. Only way I could thnk of making the NetMos cards read right is by
supplying read data when READ is high, but thats too ugly (bus conflicts etc)
to consider seriously.
>
> I did find one motherboard that had a problem in the ISA interface
> chip. I could watch the EPP signals and see the data lines changing
> while the strobe was active. The only explanation I could come up with
> was that every couple hundred EPP cycles, the ISA interface would fail
> to put the CPU into a wait state, and when the CPU wrote again to the
> EPP data register, it would change the data being sent. No way to fix
> that one either!
No, sounds like a timing error in the wait state insertion logic
>
> Jon
>
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 on a usb thumb drive
Yes, that is exactly what I am seeing. I wonder if there is a way to make it think it is not a CD? Jon Elson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Has anyone done this? >> >> I have a usb thumb drive with the latest .iso live cd installed on it. >> It boots but I can't seem to make it save settings and changes... I got >> as far as creating two partitions.. one with the image on it and the >> other empty formatted ext2 with the name casper-rw. It's a 2 gig >> drive.When I boot off the drive it automatically mounts the 2nd >> partition casper-rw. >> >> I used the instructions from this link: >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent >> >> Also, when I don't boot off the drive I can write to it. >> >> >> > It is because the system thinks it really IS a CD, and you can't write > to a CD. > You may need two pen drives. One holds the iso, the other becomes the > "hard drive" for EMC2/Ubuntu to be installed to. > Maybe you can do this with the separate partitions, it depends on the > coding in the install scripts. > > Jon > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 on a usb thumb drive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Has anyone done this? > > I have a usb thumb drive with the latest .iso live cd installed on it. > It boots but I can't seem to make it save settings and changes... I got > as far as creating two partitions.. one with the image on it and the > other empty formatted ext2 with the name casper-rw. It's a 2 gig > drive.When I boot off the drive it automatically mounts the 2nd > partition casper-rw. > > I used the instructions from this link: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent > > Also, when I don't boot off the drive I can write to it. > > It is because the system thinks it really IS a CD, and you can't write to a CD. You may need two pen drives. One holds the iso, the other becomes the "hard drive" for EMC2/Ubuntu to be installed to. Maybe you can do this with the separate partitions, it depends on the coding in the install scripts. Jon -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Write error with hostmot2 and 7i43 board
Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > > I wasted 2 days fscking around with those cards (NetMos = MOSChip 9805 based) > I had no trouble getting them into EPP mode, they just dont work right in EPP > mode. I got write to work but they seem to sample the read data on the > leading > edge of the strobe, this is contrary to the EPP specs I've read and every > other EPP capable parallel port I have tested. For some more advanced > features > of HostMot2 to work properly, reads must be qualified by a strobe as some > read > have side effects (reading FIFOs for example). There is no reliable way to > make this work with the MOSChip parts. I hate to admit defeat as these are by > far the most common PCI parallel port chips but I give up on MosChip cards. > > Obviously, the par port chip has to wait for a signal from the slave device to indicate the data is present before sampling it. I had similar problems with some other PCI boards, and found that I was gettting crosstalk from strobes and data lines onto the WAIT signal, causing the read operation to end and sample too early. I have been manually adding a bunch of termination resistors to my boards until I can respin the PCBs. Never needed this with the motherboard par ports, but the timing, logic levels, etc. of the PCI boards are different. I did find one motherboard that had a problem in the ISA interface chip. I could watch the EPP signals and see the data lines changing while the strobe was active. The only explanation I could come up with was that every couple hundred EPP cycles, the ISA interface would fail to put the CPU into a wait state, and when the CPU wrote again to the EPP data register, it would change the data being sent. No way to fix that one either! Jon -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Touch-trigger Probe
On 10 Dec 2008 at 11:19, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > John Thornton wrote: > > > >A switch will make the in-not True when closed and False when open > >and the in will be False when closed and True when open. > > > > > That's not necessarily true. Whether the switch is NC or NO makes > no > difference. It's whether the switch is normally pulled high, I'm guessing your speaking of the input pin on the parallel port not the switch as the switch only opens and closes... > normally > pulled low, or normally left floating (which is equivalent to pulled > high in most cases). "A +5V level on the parallel port pin will make the -in pin 1 and the -in-not pin 0, a 0V level on the parallel port pin will make -in 0 and -in-not 1." The above seems to be the most accurate description but would a newbee understand? The driver knows that some of the > pins > are inverted in hardware, and inverts those before setting the state > of > the HAL pins. I didn't even think of the wiring issue. The pin could pulled low or high when the switch closes??? and only floating when the switch is open??? In most cases when you close your switch would you put +5vdc on the parallel port pin or 0vdc? > > (Not being pedantic here - I just don't want people to see this and > assume that something is wrong with EMC2 because their input isn't > working the way this describes) > > - Steve > Steve makes John look up the definition of pedantic :) John -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC 2.2.7 + 7i43 + Ted's sample, and same error than using EMC 2.2.6 + 7i43 + Ted's sample.... What now?
> Then run this command (assuming your parallel port address is set to 0x378)
Oops I meant:
>
> sc7i43p svst4_4b.bit 378
^^^
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC 2.2.7 + 7i43 + Ted's sample, and same error than using EMC 2.2.6 + 7i43 + Ted's sample.... What now?
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Richard Acosta wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:10:51 -0200
From: Richard Acosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC 2.2.7 + 7i43 + Ted's sample,
and same error than using EMC 2.2.6 + 7i43 + Ted's sample What now?
OK, i'll try DOS, where do i get your utilities?
Download the latest 7I43 support package from:
http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/7i43.zip
Unzip this and copy these three files:
configs\hostmot2\epphm2\svst4_4b.bit
utils\epp\sc7i43p.exe
utils\epp\epptest.exe
to a working directory on some convenient media
Then run this command (assuming your parallel port address is set to 0x378)
sc7i43p svst4_4b.bit
If this succeeds you can try a loopback test:
epptest 378
EPPtest.exe writes 2 32 bit numbers (n and NOT n) in 2 hostmot2 32 bit
registers and reads them back, reporting and counting the errors. Every 10
test it prints a loop count. This should run continously without errors
El 09/12/2008 12:01 a.m., Peter C. Wallace escribió:
OK I tried rev B 7I43s (your card rev) with 2 motherboards using the VIA
VT82C686 (one VT82C686A and one VT82V686B). This is the same South bridge as
your motherboard.
Using a short cable (1 foot) I had no trouble configuring or doing a EPP
loopback test (I did 100 million EPP operations with no errors on both
motherboards)
There are a couple of possibilities:
1. The 7I43 you have is bad in some way (not too likely)
2. The cable you are using is not wired correctly or has a short (easy to do
with hand assembled flat cables)
3. The 7I43 you have somehow does not have the latest CPLD firmware that echos
the FPGA size (This should only apply to very early 7I43s and I think yours
is recent)
4. Somthing is wrong with your parallel port
Can you boot DOS on your EMC PC?
If you could try some of my test utilties Maybe I can get a better idea of the
exact problem.
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[Emc-users] EMC2 on a usb thumb drive
Has anyone done this? I have a usb thumb drive with the latest .iso live cd installed on it. It boots but I can't seem to make it save settings and changes... I got as far as creating two partitions.. one with the image on it and the other empty formatted ext2 with the name casper-rw. It's a 2 gig drive.When I boot off the drive it automatically mounts the 2nd partition casper-rw. I used the instructions from this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent Also, when I don't boot off the drive I can write to it. After reading some threads it looks like the challenging part is getting the drive to boot and the partitions setup. I think I have gotten that far. Not sure if it's correct but it looks like it is. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC 2.2.7 + 7i43 + Ted's sample, and same error than using EMC 2.2.6 + 7i43 + Ted's sample.... What now?
OK, i'll try DOS, where do i get your utilities?
El 09/12/2008 12:01 a.m., Peter C. Wallace escribió:
> OK I tried rev B 7I43s (your card rev) with 2 motherboards using the VIA
> VT82C686 (one VT82C686A and one VT82V686B). This is the same South bridge as
> your motherboard.
>
> Using a short cable (1 foot) I had no trouble configuring or doing a EPP
> loopback test (I did 100 million EPP operations with no errors on both
> motherboards)
>
>
>
> There are a couple of possibilities:
>
> 1. The 7I43 you have is bad in some way (not too likely)
>
> 2. The cable you are using is not wired correctly or has a short (easy to do
> with hand assembled flat cables)
>
> 3. The 7I43 you have somehow does not have the latest CPLD firmware that
> echos
> the FPGA size (This should only apply to very early 7I43s and I think yours
> is recent)
>
> 4. Somthing is wrong with your parallel port
>
>
> Can you boot DOS on your EMC PC?
>
> If you could try some of my test utilties Maybe I can get a better idea of
> the
> exact problem.
>
>
>
> Peter Wallace
> Mesa Electronics
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Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control?
What John and mcinquino said ;^) I often forget about the path of least resistance. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I would try pypvc first. > > Emory Smith wrote: >> For simulation, you could connect a few switches to the parport >> with appropriate pull-up resistors. You've probably got an old printer >> cable lying around that you could cut up and trace out (with an Ohmmeter) >> a few pins for ground, +5 and some inputs. >> While you're at it, you could also hang some LEDs on your test jig to let >> you know that "X" has happened (via an "M" code) and when to press a >> button, etc. >> Such a jig could be ugly and simple or as elaborate as you wish. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> The way I interpret the wiki and the manual is that the command waits >>> for the input only as long as the Q timer is set for. This works well >>> for error handling but for a machine interface I would want it to wait >>> w/o error handling. >>> Is there a way to test this in one of the simulations. I don't have a >>> working system in front of me right now to test it. I am not sure how I >>> would simulate the input with out hardware? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mike >>> >>> Alex Joni wrote: >>> M66 P1 L1 waits for pin motion.*00* to become true. If that doesn't work like that, then you probably need a large Q number. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control? > Thanks- Is there a way to wait indefinitely for an input using M66? > Would L0 do this? > > Chris Radek wrote: > > >> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 02:00:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> The wiki shows more definition on the implementation of the M66 digital >>> input control. My question is around the P words. Are you limited to P0 >>> - P3 or can I continue with more P words like P4, P5, etc... if needed? >>> >>> >>> >> Looks like you can have up to 64 digital ins/outs without >> recompiling. To set the number higher than 4 (the default), add >> num_dio=XX or num_aio=XX to your loadrt emcmot command. >> >> >> >> -- >> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, >> Nevada. >> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >> pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Thanks, > > Mike Cinquino > Project Manager > Distech Systems Inc. > Rochester, NY 14606 > > Phone: 585-254-7020 > Fax: 585-254-1905 > > www.distechsystems.com > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, > Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 09.12.2008 09:59 -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mike Cinquino >>> Project Manager >>> Distech Systems Inc. >>> Rochester, NY 14606 >>> >>> Phone: 585-254-7020 >>> Fax: 585-254-1905 >>> >>> www.distechsystems.com >>> >>> >>> --
Re: [Emc-users] Touch-trigger Probe
John Thornton wrote: >[snip] > >>In the HAL file, I add a line: net probe parport.0.pin-12-in => >>motion.probe-input (or net probe parport.0.pin-12-in-not => >>motion.probe-input). >>Not sure which one I should use. >> >> >A switch will make the in-not True when closed and False when open >and the in will be False when closed and True when open. > > That's not necessarily true. Whether the switch is NC or NO makes no difference. It's whether the switch is normally pulled high, normally pulled low, or normally left floating (which is equivalent to pulled high in most cases). A +5V level on the parallel port pin will make the -in pin 1 and the -in-not pin 0, a 0V level on the parallel port pin will make -in 0 and -in-not 1. The driver knows that some of the pins are inverted in hardware, and inverts those before setting the state of the HAL pins. (Not being pedantic here - I just don't want people to see this and assume that something is wrong with EMC2 because their input isn't working the way this describes) - Steve -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control?
I think I would try pypvc first. Emory Smith wrote: > For simulation, you could connect a few switches to the parport > with appropriate pull-up resistors. You've probably got an old printer > cable lying around that you could cut up and trace out (with an Ohmmeter) > a few pins for ground, +5 and some inputs. > While you're at it, you could also hang some LEDs on your test jig to let > you know that "X" has happened (via an "M" code) and when to press a > button, etc. > Such a jig could be ugly and simple or as elaborate as you wish. > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The way I interpret the wiki and the manual is that the command waits >> for the input only as long as the Q timer is set for. This works well >> for error handling but for a machine interface I would want it to wait >> w/o error handling. >> Is there a way to test this in one of the simulations. I don't have a >> working system in front of me right now to test it. I am not sure how I >> would simulate the input with out hardware? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> Alex Joni wrote: >> >>> M66 P1 L1 waits for pin motion.*00* to become true. >>> If that doesn't work like that, then you probably need a large Q number. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:42 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks- Is there a way to wait indefinitely for an input using M66? Would L0 do this? Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 02:00:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > >> The wiki shows more definition on the implementation of the M66 digital >> input control. My question is around the P words. Are you limited to P0 >> - P3 or can I continue with more P words like P4, P5, etc... if needed? >> >> >> > Looks like you can have up to 64 digital ins/outs without > recompiling. To set the number higher than 4 (the default), add > num_dio=XX or num_aio=XX to your loadrt emcmot command. > > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, > Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > -- Thanks, Mike Cinquino Project Manager Distech Systems Inc. Rochester, NY 14606 Phone: 585-254-7020 Fax: 585-254-1905 www.distechsystems.com -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 09.12.2008 >>> 09:59 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. >>> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >>> pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Thanks, >> >> Mike Cinquino >> Project Manager >> Distech Systems Inc. >> Rochester, NY 14606 >> >> Phone: 585-254-7020 >> Fax: 585-254-1905 >> >> www.distechsystems.com >> >> >> -- >> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. >> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >> pave the way to
Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control?
Emory Smith wrote: > For simulation, you could connect a few switches to the parport > with appropriate pull-up resistors. Actually, for simulation you could use pyvcp button widgets, and not need any hardware at all. Regards, John Kasunich -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control?
For simulation, you could connect a few switches to the parport with appropriate pull-up resistors. You've probably got an old printer cable lying around that you could cut up and trace out (with an Ohmmeter) a few pins for ground, +5 and some inputs. While you're at it, you could also hang some LEDs on your test jig to let you know that "X" has happened (via an "M" code) and when to press a button, etc. Such a jig could be ugly and simple or as elaborate as you wish. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The way I interpret the wiki and the manual is that the command waits > for the input only as long as the Q timer is set for. This works well > for error handling but for a machine interface I would want it to wait > w/o error handling. > Is there a way to test this in one of the simulations. I don't have a > working system in front of me right now to test it. I am not sure how I > would simulate the input with out hardware? > > Thanks, > Mike > > Alex Joni wrote: >> M66 P1 L1 waits for pin motion.*00* to become true. >> If that doesn't work like that, then you probably need a large Q number. >> >> Regards, >> Alex >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control? >> >> >> >>> Thanks- Is there a way to wait indefinitely for an input using M66? >>> Would L0 do this? >>> >>> Chris Radek wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 02:00:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The wiki shows more definition on the implementation of the M66 digital > input control. My question is around the P words. Are you limited to P0 > - P3 or can I continue with more P words like P4, P5, etc... if needed? > > Looks like you can have up to 64 digital ins/outs without recompiling. To set the number higher than 4 (the default), add num_dio=XX or num_aio=XX to your loadrt emcmot command. -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mike Cinquino >>> Project Manager >>> Distech Systems Inc. >>> Rochester, NY 14606 >>> >>> Phone: 585-254-7020 >>> Fax: 585-254-1905 >>> >>> www.distechsystems.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, >>> Nevada. >>> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >>> pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 09.12.2008 >> 09:59 >> >> >> -- >> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. >> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >> pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> > > -- > Thanks, > > Mike Cinquino > Project Manager > Distech Systems Inc. > Rochester, NY 14606 > > Phone: 585-254-7020 > Fax: 585-254-1905 > > www.distechsystems.com > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- "Those tha
Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control?
The way I interpret the wiki and the manual is that the command waits for the input only as long as the Q timer is set for. This works well for error handling but for a machine interface I would want it to wait w/o error handling. Is there a way to test this in one of the simulations. I don't have a working system in front of me right now to test it. I am not sure how I would simulate the input with out hardware? Thanks, Mike Alex Joni wrote: > M66 P1 L1 waits for pin motion.*00* to become true. > If that doesn't work like that, then you probably need a large Q number. > > Regards, > Alex > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control? > > > >> Thanks- Is there a way to wait indefinitely for an input using M66? >> Would L0 do this? >> >> Chris Radek wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 02:00:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> wrote: >>> >>> The wiki shows more definition on the implementation of the M66 digital input control. My question is around the P words. Are you limited to P0 - P3 or can I continue with more P words like P4, P5, etc... if needed? >>> Looks like you can have up to 64 digital ins/outs without >>> recompiling. To set the number higher than 4 (the default), add >>> num_dio=XX or num_aio=XX to your loadrt emcmot command. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, >>> Nevada. >>> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >>> pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Thanks, >> >> Mike Cinquino >> Project Manager >> Distech Systems Inc. >> Rochester, NY 14606 >> >> Phone: 585-254-7020 >> Fax: 585-254-1905 >> >> www.distechsystems.com >> >> >> -- >> SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, >> Nevada. >> The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help >> pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 09.12.2008 > 09:59 > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > -- Thanks, Mike Cinquino Project Manager Distech Systems Inc. Rochester, NY 14606 Phone: 585-254-7020 Fax: 585-254-1905 www.distechsystems.com -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Touch-trigger Probe
On 9 Dec 2008 at 21:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am using EMC2 and Ubuntu 6.06 and would like to share my > understanding of > hooking up a touch-trigger probe with experts on this list. > > The probe acts as a NC switch and is connected to pin 12 on the > parallel port. > > In the HAL file, I add a line: net probe parport.0.pin-12-in => > motion.probe-input (or net probe parport.0.pin-12-in-not => > motion.probe-input). > Not sure which one I should use. A switch will make the in-not True when closed and False when open and the in will be False when closed and True when open. > > Is this all that is required? Yes > > The other thing I'd like to check is whether I can probe when the > switch goes > from NC to open (G38.2) and vice versa. In other words, is it > possible to probe > fron Open to NC? Here is a link to the motion.probe-input http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//config_emc2hal.html > > Is G38.4 designed for this purpose? G38.4 is only in the TRUNK (2.3) version of EMC. AFAIK motion.probe-input still needs the same signal false to true. John -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] M66 digital input control?
Chris, Is this something that needs to be in the documents? John On 9 Dec 2008 at 13:41, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 02:00:40PM -0500, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The wiki shows more definition on the implementation of the M66 > digital > > input control. My question is around the P words. Are you limited > to P0 > > - P3 or can I continue with more P words like P4, P5, etc... if > needed? > > Looks like you can have up to 64 digital ins/outs without > recompiling. To set the number higher than 4 (the default), add > num_dio=XX or num_aio=XX to your loadrt emcmot command. > > > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, > Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to > help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visit > mix.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
