Re: [Emc-users] syncing two motors to one axis

[Rob Jansen]

Len,

you give me too much credits.
I don't know that much about the HAL and to be honest, I am just able to
understand the HAL files that I got as samples.
Did this all with a bit of standard logic gates since my PC does not have
enough I/O to capture all the signals.
But my 5i20 and 7i43 Mesa cards are about to arrive  so next week I should
be able to start converting one system from 2.2 to 2.3 and start
implementing all these extras in HAL.

I'll post my progress over the next few weeks; I've leeched enough from this
list. Time to contribute ;-)

Cheers,

Rob

Jon and Rob,
>
> You guys obviously know a lot more about the inner working of HAL than I. I
> am still no closer to understanding what lines of code I need to put into
> my
> HAL file.
>
> Can you please translate this simple boolean text notation...
>
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[Emc-users] NAMES Photo display update [was EMC at NAMES 2009--banner & update]

[Greg Michalski]

Chris - I certainly enjoy donating my time and some resources.  But thank
you for the recognition.  Whether we admit it or not, and regardless of our
motives, it's human nature to enjoy and desire the recognition. :)

I'm almost done with the photo board layouts and am researching the printing
costs and alternatives - I think I have my boss coddled enough to bribe some
prints out of him limiting out-of-pocket costs to just the foam core backer
board and a fresh can of 3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive.

I will be posting these hi-res images/layouts for display and once the
location is worked out will let everyone here know so if people can't make
it to NAMES they'll be viewable.  Since they are on the foam core they are
easily stored and I can make them available to any other events (shows,
workshops, etc.) in the future where people may find them useful.

I have a few layouts left to design and want to submit the layouts to the
couple of commercial entities for looking over so they are acceptable to
them - wouldn't want to have them inaccurate/junky looking and reflect
poorly on their enterprises (Jon Elson and Stuart are the couple that come
to mind - I think there were one or two others who indicated commercial use
and provided their business names).  Just need a good pic of Stuart's Cinci
:)  Sadly enough the board for my own machine is the one I am most behind on
- I have the &#...@$ pics but have concentrated on getting everyone else's
layouts done first!

Thanks again!  Hope to see at least a few mailing list names here in Toledo
4/18-19.

Greg
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> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Radek [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:53 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES 2009--banner & update
> 
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 05:12:45PM -0400, Dale Grover wrote:
> > NAMES 2009 is a week and half away in Toledo, OH.  (A few folks will
> > be demonstrating and distributing EMC2 at a booth at this hobby
> > machining expo, as discussed on this list earlier.)  Here's an update:
> >
> > * Just received a 2' x 8' banner with artwork by Wayne Parks:
> > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/banner_real.jpg
> 
> I am so thrilled that you guys are doing this.  The banner looks
> great.  Thank you for all your work.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port

[Greg Michalski]

Will - Where about are you located at?  With Chris' comment in mind - I've
got a single port Netmos based PCI LPT that is going to be swapped shortly
for a dual port Netmos (once I get over to my local shop _ I give them
occasional business over Newegg since I don't want them to go under).  I'd
be willing to part with the single unit for a steal (depending on your
location that is - if shipping is more than the board's cost...)  Feel free
to contact me off list.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Radek [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:13 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port
> 
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 02:05:15AM +, William Baden wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Thanks for the idea, I have tried it and still come up with "device
> > or resource busy" of one address and no output on the other three
> > addresses.  Will have to wait til after this weekend, taking a
> > vacation with the wife!
> 
> 
> > >  >00:0b.0 Serial controller: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port
> > >  >parallel adaptor (prog-if 02 [16550])
> 
> 
> I don't think it's anything you're doing -- I don't like this
> "Serial controller" identification.  Something is goofy.  Maybe try
> another type of card?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>

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Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port

[Chris Radek]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 02:05:15AM +, William Baden wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Thanks for the idea, I have tried it and still come up with "device
> or resource busy" of one address and no output on the other three
> addresses.  Will have to wait til after this weekend, taking a
> vacation with the wife!  


> >  >00:0b.0 Serial controller: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port
> >  >parallel adaptor (prog-if 02 [16550])


I don't think it's anything you're doing -- I don't like this
"Serial controller" identification.  Something is goofy.  Maybe try
another type of card?

Chris


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Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port

[William Baden]

Peter,

Thanks for the idea, I have tried it and still come up with "device or resource 
busy" of one address and no output on the other three addresses.  Will have to 
wait til after this weekend, taking a vacation with the wife!

Thanks again,
Will Baden

> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:57:58 +0200
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> From: p.blo...@dreki.de
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port
> 
> William,
> if you can't find the correct memory addresses of your card then try the 
> hard way: remove all PCI or ISA cards and everything else that's not 
> necessary to run the bare PC. Boot and look at /proc/ioports for changes to 
> the former state (risk a few sheets of paper ro print the file contents). 
> Test the port if you suspect an address to work. Then put in the other 
> cards one after the other, rebooting and trying each time. Weary job.
> By the way: my addresses changed from a400 and b000 to b400 and d000 when I 
> moved the PC from one room to another...;-)
> 
> Best regards
> Peter Blodow
> 
> Hello William,
> 
> last week I had just the same problem. It turned out that some other device
> claimed the same addresses as my Netmos 2 port card. This particular one
> may be hard to find. First, use lspic -vv or even lspci -vvv to get more
> information than with lspci -v.
> 
> Look at /proc/ioports: You will find addresses like a400, b000 up to d000.
> My card supplies 6 such possibilities to chose. Behind the valid address
> EMC had put in a line stating "hal parport" as a comment. That's the one.
> If you are not sure, try them all with stepconf: insert the address to be
> tested, doubleclick on Continue to get to the X-Axis page and "test axis".
> If the re is no motion, return with doubleclick and try the next address.
> Within a minute I had tested all 6 addresses given.
> Don't save the stepconf five when leaving in case you have made unintended
> changes.
> 
> Note that this address you found can change in case you play with BIOS or
> Cmos-Setup or install some other devices.
> 
> I made myself a printer port test plug with LED's (from a serial null
> modem) so I can see what's happening on the lines without the whole machine
> setup.
> 
> Best regards
> Peter Blodow
> 
> 
> 
> At 04:40 06.04.2009, you wrote:
> 
>  >Hi all,
>  >
>  >Being still new to linux and EMC2 I have decided to use an old computer to
>  >learn more about it, using a small table top mill that I built using
>  >various parts.  Wanting to branch out into a cheap I/O upgrade I decided
>  >to purchase a PCI parallel port card.  But I have run into a problem
>  >getting this going.
>  >
>  >After installing the card, I used "sudo lspci -v" to find out the address,
>  >this is what was displayed:
>  >
>  >00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge
>  >(rev 03)
>  > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64
>  > Memory at e800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
>  > Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 1.0
>  >
>  >00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge
>  >(rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
>  > Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64
>  > Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
>  > I/O behind bridge: b000-bfff
>  > Memory behind bridge: d800-e7ff
>  >
>  >00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
>  > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
>  >
>  >00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
>  >(prog-if 80 [Master])
>  > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64
>  > [virtual] Memory at 01f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
>  > [size=8]
>  > [virtual] Memory at 03f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
>  > [size=1]
>  > [virtual] Memory at 0170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
>  > [size=8]
>  > [virtual] Memory at 0370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
>  > [size=1]
>  > I/O ports at f000 [size=16]
>  >
>  >00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
>  >(prog-if 00 [UHCI])
>  > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
>  > I/O ports at c000 [size=32]
>  >
>  >00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)
>  > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9
>  >
>  >00:0b.0 Serial controller: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port
>  >parallel adaptor (prog-if 02 [16550])
>  > Subsystem: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port parallel adaptor
>  > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9
>  > I/O ports at c400 [size=8]
>  > I/O ports at c800 [size=8]
>  > I/O ports at cc00 [size=8]
>  > I/O ports at d000 [size=8]
>  > Memory at ed001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64]
>  >
>  >00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]
>  >(rev 30)
>  > Subsystem: 3Com Corporation 3C905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100
>  > Flags: bus master, medium de

Re: [Emc-users] Mach3 / EMC G and M-Code

[Stephen Wille Padnos]

Rainer Schmidt wrote:

>Is there a fundamental difference between the Mach3 and the EMC G/M
>Codes or will all regular/CAM generated stuff for Mach3 run also with
>EMC?
>  
>
I don't know all the differences, but I do know that there are some 
canned cycles in Mach that EMC2 doesn't have, like G10/G11 (for a 
circular pocket or some such).  If the post more or less uses G0-G3 and 
few canned cycles, the code should be pretty close.  Both Mach3 and EMC2 
are based on the same interpreter, but the split happened a long time ago :)

- Steve


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[Emc-users] Mach3 / EMC G and M-Code

[Rainer Schmidt]

Is there a fundamental difference between the Mach3 and the EMC G/M
Codes or will all regular/CAM generated stuff for Mach3 run also with
EMC?
Cheers
Rainer

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Re: [Emc-users] syncing two motors to one axis

[Len Shelton]

Jon and Rob,

You guys obviously know a lot more about the inner working of HAL than I. I
am still no closer to understanding what lines of code I need to put into my
HAL file.

Can you please translate this simple boolean text notation...

home_en1 = dir OR NOT home1
home_en2 = dir OR NOT home2
step_1 = step AND home_en1
step_2 = step AND home_en2
home = ( ( home1 AND home2 ) AND NOT dir ) OR ( ( home 1 OR home2 )
AND dir )

...to actual HAL syntax.

Thanks a bunch, really.

>Len


-Original Message-
From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:30 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] syncing two motors to one axis

Len Shelton wrote:
> So, are you saying that it can't presently be done because no one has
> written the hal components to do it?
>
>   
No, actually I do not believe any new HAL components are needed.  You 
need an and gate to detect when both home switches have been tripped.  
This AND output sets a flip-flop.  The flip-flop is cleared when you 
start the home sequence.  When the FF is clear, an and gate stops each 
side of the gantry from moving when that home switch trips.  When the FF 
is set, all move commands pass through.
> I have searched the archives and found very little.
>
> FWIW - this machine uses steppers and no encoders.
>   
OK, your homing is not going to be as precise with this, but it can 
still be plenty good enough for a hobby level machine.  it is also 
simpler, as there is no complex homing sequence to use encoder index 
pulses.  I'm less familiar with the internal hook-up of step generators 
to the parallel port, but what you want to do is stop the first side 
that hits home, and not terminate the homing sequence until BOTH sides 
have hit their home switches.  Sounds quite simple.

Jon


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Re: [Emc-users] USDigital encoders

[Tom]

Kirk Wallace  writes:

snip...

> It looks like the E6 kit with the same spec's is $83:
> E6-2500-750-I-S-D-D-B
> http://usdigital.com/products/encoders/incremental/rotary/kit/e6/
...

> Kirk

Got that. Thanks Kirk
Tom


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[Emc-users] Kinematic and axis assignment

[Gerhard Gleixner]

hi everybody,

I started yesterday working with EMC2, seems to be a real great software. 
Installation on top of Xubuntu hardy was very smoothly using your installation 
script. Stepper motors are already moving. 

After studying some threads here, I created also my first kinematic module 
using comp. Very nice.

Now there is a little challenge where I would like to have your advice. The 
machine to control is a hot wire cutting machine. It needs two pairs of axis 
with bipod kinematic each and one turntable. My plan is to use X,Y and U,V for 
the bipods and A for the turntable.

In the ini file I write COORDINATES X,Y,U,V,A. In AXIS, I see, when I switch to 
"world" view the order X,Y,A,U,V. Seems axis don't care in which order I write 
the axis in ini. Thats a minor problem. More important: Up to now I was not 
able to "skip" joints. I must write AXES = 8, and I see in joint view axes 0-7 
as position display, but axis 0,1,3,U,V (note:U,V shall read 6,7) selectable in 
manual control. The system seems to know that I only use these joints, but 
still displays position for all axis. And itexpects ALL axis to be homed. But I 
cannot home what is not selectable. Also there is some confusion with axis U,V 
( I have still the trivkin active), seems not assigned to joints 6,7.

In another thread, I read that joints 3-5 are somehow angular, all other 
linear. Is that still true ? or are they absolutely equal ? How would you 
assign axis ? 

I hope this was not too much confusing. maybe someone can help a little.

Gerd

 



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Re: [Emc-users] EMC2.3.0beta2 installaiton help

[John Guenther]

Hi Steve;

Thanks, that is what I needed to know.  I got the pre-built packages and
all is well now.  
-  
John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'
Sterling, Virginia


On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 09:15 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote:
> John Guenther wrote:
> 
> >Good morning;
> >
> >I have EMC 2.2.8 Hardy Heron installed from the live CD, this is working
> >just fine.  I decided to install the 2.3 beta, downloaded the source and
> >attempted to build it.  I appear to be missing some packages needed to
> >build it.  The current error is:
> >
> >checking for glib... configure: error: no -- required until somebody
> >makes modbus optional
> >
> >My question is what packages to I need to add to have the necessary
> >development environment? 
> >  
> >
> There are instructions on prepating a machine for compiling on the wiki:
> 
> 
> You could also install the pre-built packages.  There are instructions 
> for that on the wiki as well:
> 
> 
> Hope this helps
> - Steve
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC2.3.0beta2 installaiton help

[Stephen Wille Padnos]

John Guenther wrote:

>Good morning;
>
>I have EMC 2.2.8 Hardy Heron installed from the live CD, this is working
>just fine.  I decided to install the 2.3 beta, downloaded the source and
>attempted to build it.  I appear to be missing some packages needed to
>build it.  The current error is:
>
>checking for glib... configure: error: no -- required until somebody
>makes modbus optional
>
>My question is what packages to I need to add to have the necessary
>development environment? 
>  
>
There are instructions on prepating a machine for compiling on the wiki:


You could also install the pre-built packages.  There are instructions 
for that on the wiki as well:


Hope this helps
- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] Thc300 conf, emc 2.2.8, updown.0.reset pin does not exist

[John Thornton]

>From a quick look at the man pages updown.n.reset is only in 2.3

2.2.x
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//man/man9/updown.9.html

2.3.x
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/devel/html//man/man9/updown.9.html

My guess is that configuration was written to be used with 2.3

John

On 9 Apr 2009 at 13:24, Sasa Vilic wrote:

> I have updated my computer today trought update manager to version
> 2.2.8 and downloaded new configuration plasma-thc (thc300). When I
> started this configuratio, I got error message, that
> updown.0.reset
> pin does not exist (thc300.hal). If I comment this line, and later
> open emc configuratio, I can see updown component, but it does not
> have pin "reset". It seems that I have older version of module, or
> this version of module was not included in 2.2.8 release.
> 
> Does anyone know any solution?
> 
> Thank you,
> Sasa Vilic
> 
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[Emc-users] EMC2.3.0beta2 installaiton help

[John Guenther]

Good morning;

I have EMC 2.2.8 Hardy Heron installed from the live CD, this is working
just fine.  I decided to install the 2.3 beta, downloaded the source and
attempted to build it.  I appear to be missing some packages needed to
build it.  The current error is:

checking for glib... configure: error: no -- required until somebody
makes modbus optional

My question is what packages to I need to add to have the necessary
development environment? 

Thanks.
-  
John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'
Sterling, Virginia



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[Emc-users] Thc300 conf, emc 2.2.8, updown.0.reset pin does not exist

[Sasa Vilic]

I have updated my computer today trought update manager to version
2.2.8 and downloaded new configuration plasma-thc (thc300). When I
started this configuratio, I got error message, that updown.0.reset
pin does not exist (thc300.hal). If I comment this line, and later
open emc configuratio, I can see updown component, but it does not
have pin "reset". It seems that I have older version of module, or
this version of module was not included in 2.2.8 release.

Does anyone know any solution?

Thank you,
Sasa Vilic

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Re: [Emc-users] Bug in stepconf?

[Peter blodow]

Steve,
I installed Hardy right from the live CD in January. A friend and I did 
this on three different hard disks to make sure and had the same result.

Peter Blodow



At 02:10 09.04.2009, you wrote:
>Peter blodow wrote:
>
> >P.S.: I am using hardy (so does Alex Joni)  so it may be different from 
> dapper.
> >P.Blodow
> >
> >Hello Chris,
> >since I am using the German version I don't exactly how the buttons are
> >named. The way to leave the mouse over the button works only when going 
> back.
> >
> >
>I tried the following in my Hardy laptop (in sim mode, which *shouldn't*
>matter):
>v2.2 branch - not sure how far past 2.2.8 this is, I imagine not too far
>v2.3 branch - the current beta is pretty close to this
>TRUNK - the latest
>
>For all three versions, I tried the standard XYZ mill, and also tried an
>XYZA mill.  In all cases, including one where I pre-positioned the mouse
>cursor over the spot where the Forward button would appear, repeatedly
>clicking Forward would get me through all of the pages, up to the final
>screen where it changes to "Apply" (where I didn't apply the changes).
>
>I'm not sure what's causing the issues you are seeing, but I suspect
>it's not in stepconf.  There may be some workaround, but I don't know.
>The long-standing bug mentioned before could be the culprit on the
>Dapper machines.  I don't know what's causing it on your Hardy
>machines.  Out of curiosity, did you directly install Hardy, or was this
>a dapper install that was later upgraded?
>
>- Steve
>
>
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