Re: [Emc-users] Rapid Prototype for CNC mill

2012-07-28 Thread Jeshua Lacock

On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jon Elson wrote:

 Not to mention no need for support material.
 
 Not true.  In fact, that is about the only drawback to the DLP system, 
 is there is no
 way to make a model with a different (soluble) support material.  There 
 are certainly
 some models that have separable parts or gaps in the parts that could 
 use a support material.
 Proper layout of the build can sometimes overcome this by building at an 
 angle.

Hi Jon,

I guess i should have said that it requires less support material since the 
fluid is there to support the area as it is cured. In other words, each layer 
is buoyant - unlike the plastic extrusion printers.

 The other drawback is the fixed number of pixels on the projector.  A 
 guy in England
 is working on using the spinning mirror from a laser printer, a powerful 
 blue diode
 laser and a carriage to scan the raster down the vat to make a machine 
 that has high
 resolution over a larger build area.  His early tests look quite 
 promising.  But, he
 will have to develop custom electronics, probably using an FPGA, to modulate
 the laser to produce the raster.  (It is possible to gut a laser printer 
 and fudge the
 myriad sensor inputs, but it might be a lot easier to just start from 
 scratch.)

Yeah, the limited size is the main reason why I didn't consider funding the 
Kickstarter project. The build area at 100 microns is only 4x3 inches and only 
2x1.5 at 50 microns. Using an HD projector would of course increase that size 
to an almost practical size (still 8x6 inches is pretty small). But going that 
route, I would be better off just building my own so I don't pay for two 
projectors.

Now if I did jewelry, the stock size would be much more suitable.

I wonder about using 4 HD projectors or would optical distortion along the 
edges be a problem? That would allow a roughly 15.5x11.6 build size at 100 
microns.


Best,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
3DTOPO Incorporated
http://3DTOPO.com
Phone: 208.462.4171


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Re: [Emc-users] Rapid Prototype for CNC mill

2012-07-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 July 2012 22:59, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote:

 I wonder about using 4 HD projectors or would optical distortion along the 
 edges be a problem?

You could move the build platform around above the single projector.
(or the projector under the platform)

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Re: [Emc-users] Rapid Prototype for CNC mill

2012-07-28 Thread Jeshua Lacock

On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:07 PM, andy pugh wrote:

 On 28 July 2012 22:59, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote:
 
 I wonder about using 4 HD projectors or would optical distortion along the 
 edges be a problem?
 
 You could move the build platform around above the single projector.
 (or the projector under the platform)

Hi Andy,

Great thought! It is so obvious too, can't believe I didn't think of it.

I wonder if barrel distortion from the projector would still be a problem? I 
suppose if it was it could be compensated for in software - just like there is 
software to remove lens distortion from photos...


Cheers,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
3DTOPO Incorporated
http://3DTOPO.com
Phone: 208.462.4171


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[Emc-users] tool table concerns

2012-07-28 Thread jeremy youngs
N232 M01
N234 T5 M6
N236 G0 G90 G54 X.7213 Y-1.068 S5704 M3
N238 G43 H5 Z.25
N240 Z.1
N242 G1 Z-.0167 F6.16

tool #5 not in tool library error ???/ I put this tool in  the library ,
tried g10l1 and it tells me the same every time. it will not mdi a t5m6 for
the same reason? im at a loss and any help would be appreciated thanx
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Re: [Emc-users] tool table concerns

2012-07-28 Thread andy pugh
On 29 July 2012 00:54, jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com wrote:
 N232 M01
 N234 T5 M6
 N236 G0 G90 G54 X.7213 Y-1.068 S5704 M3
 N238 G43 H5 Z.25
 N240 Z.1
 N242 G1 Z-.0167 F6.16

 tool #5 not in tool library error ???/ I put this tool in  the library

Have you reloaded the tool table?

tool.tbl is a short file, paste it into a message.

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Re: [Emc-users] Rapid Prototype for CNC mill

2012-07-28 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote:
 I guess i should have said that it requires less support material since the 
 fluid is there to support the area as it is cured. In other words, each 
 layer is buoyant - unlike the plastic extrusion printers.

   
OK, in a sense, yes.  The cured material will be about the same density 
as the uncured
resin, but everything needs to be tied together as the build platform 
breaks the
model free from the vat floor and raises it one layer thickness.
 Yeah, the limited size is the main reason why I didn't consider funding the 
 Kickstarter project. The build area at 100 microns is only 4x3 inches and 
 only 2x1.5 at 50 microns. Using an HD projector would of course increase 
 that size to an almost practical size (still 8x6 inches is pretty small). But 
 going that route, I would be better off just building my own so I don't pay 
 for two projectors.

 Now if I did jewelry, the stock size would be much more suitable.

 I wonder about using 4 HD projectors or would optical distortion along the 
 edges be a problem? That would allow a roughly 15.5x11.6 build size at 100 
 microns.
   
To my knowledge, no DIY type has done this.  I think one of the 
commercial units
either shifts the projector or moves the image with a mirror to get 
higher resolution.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Rapid Prototype for CNC mill

2012-07-28 Thread andy pugh
On 29 July 2012 01:41, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

  I think one of the
 commercial units
 either shifts the projector or moves the image with a mirror to get
 higher resolution.

I am really good at inventing stuff. One of these days I will invent
something for the first time :-)


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