Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in the next few months.
Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Mark Wendt a écrit : On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: In the linux world, when a switch like that happens (for a user interface or for a system library), the new version is always still something I personally consider as a beta version, without most of the must have features. So you just CANNOT be used to the new one, as it is just not possible to do very simple things like sorting programs by categories ans create a launcher on the desktop... And also the old apps cannot be used with the new system, or you need to recompile them for yourself, and solve a large amount of problems with the new libraries. And be happy if you can solve them :/ just my two cents... yann Well, that's kinda where M$ ran into a lot of security problems, trying to support legacy applications. I'd much rather take the Unix/Linux approach, and have to recompile and rebuild, than spend weeks hardening a system just to keep a 15 year old piece of software working like it used to. Mark well, from an admistrator point of view, I of course agree with you. But from the lambda user point of view, this is more another difficulty to turn to linux than something good, I think. Add this + the constant changes in desktop environnement like the one we where talking about, and you got something quite repulsive for newbies. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in the next few months.
Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Mark Wendt a écrit : yann Well, that's kinda where M$ ran into a lot of security problems, trying to support legacy applications. I'd much rather take the Unix/Linux approach, and have to recompile and rebuild, than spend weeks hardening a system just to keep a 15 year old piece of software working like it used to. Mark well, from an admistrator point of view, I of course agree with you. But from the lambda user point of view, this is more another difficulty to turn to linux than something good, I think. Add this + the constant changes in desktop environnement like the one we where talking about, and you got something quite repulsive for newbies. It all depends on what you are used to in that regard. M$ is no slouch when it comes to changing the look, feel, and workability of the desktop. Look at the progression from Win98, to ME, to XP, to 2000, to Vista, to Win 7 and now Win 8. It's not just from the administrative point of view, it's from the user point of view. I like my applications to run, to be secure, and have a safe, secure OS wrapping the entire thing. Being able to recompile or load updated apps so that they have the correct hooks into the OS so I don't have to worry about a piece of legacy software that I like either not compatible with, or works but not secure within the new OS is just somewhere I really don't want to go. And that's from both an administrative (which I do for a living) and a user (which I'm also) point of view. Mark -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Router speed
Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
This is a good chapter on trajectory planning. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/User_Concepts.html and perhaps in addition to the above your acceleration might be too low if your doing lots of small segments. John On 9/21/2012 6:32 AM, aaron moore wrote: Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
I also have a wood router. For me, I rarely if evver burn wood. When that happens either I am taking too large of a cut or my endmill is dull. Granted I am a hobby user and I am mostlly limited to 1/8 and 1/4 endmills and limiting DOC to the diameter of the endmill. I use the P64 with a small amount of P. I will typically cut air trying out different amounts of P to see what my speeds are on tight radi and hard corners. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GcodeInfo B On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:58 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: This is a good chapter on trajectory planning. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/User_Concepts.html and perhaps in addition to the above your acceleration might be too low if your doing lots of small segments. John On 9/21/2012 6:32 AM, aaron moore wrote: Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really heavy), and acceleration. High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high moving speed on difficult trajectory. Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit : Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
Check your trajectory control mode: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short moves in wood. You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx). On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote: It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really heavy), and acceleration. High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high moving speed on difficult trajectory. Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit : Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
Is it true that Px.x is the allowable distance from the exact tool path and followed by Q allows how far ahead along the tool path it can blend the move? No sure myself, some one told me this once. - Original Message - From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Router speed Check your trajectory control mode: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short moves in wood. You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx). On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote: It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really heavy), and acceleration. High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high moving speed on difficult trajectory. Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit : Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5272 - Release Date: 09/16/12 18:34:00 -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
Sorry, should have read the link first! G64 P- Q- - (Blend With Tolerance Mode) Greg - Original Message - From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Router speed Check your trajectory control mode: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short moves in wood. You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx). On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote: It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really heavy), and acceleration. High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high moving speed on difficult trajectory. Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit : Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5272 - Release Date: 09/16/12 18:34:00 -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
What Gcode software are you using? I upgraded vectric cut2d to vcarve pro for this very reason, because cut2d gives thousands of segments instead of curves. It typically cuts code size to about 1/3. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote: Sorry, should have read the link first! G64 P- Q- - (Blend With Tolerance Mode) Greg - Original Message - From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Router speed Check your trajectory control mode: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short moves in wood. You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx). On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote: It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really heavy), and acceleration. High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high moving speed on difficult trajectory. Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit : Hi EMC I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. Thanks in advance Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5272 - Release Date: 09/16/12 18:34:00 -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bar code error
Dave, Could you update the forum where this question first was raised? I told you it was a config issue, didn't I? ;) /S 2012/9/19 Dave dhas...@paulbunyan.net I believe that I have figured it out. I was able to set up the scanner with a Intercharacter Delay which places a short (ms) delay between the transmission of each character of scanned data. I am now able to use o+filename (ex: otest) to create my barcode and only scan once to open, populate and load the program. This will save a lot of time. Thanks for the help! -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Router speed
On 21 Sep 2012, at 12:32, aaron moore aaronmo...@linuxmail.org wrote: curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain how I can improve this. This may be because your CAM program is making arcs out of very very short segments. You might get better results by reducing the CAM precision LinuxCNC ought to blend the lines anyway, so the result may be identical. The full explanation and solution is rather involved. The manual section on G64 might illuminate. (I am on my phone so pasting links is hard) -- How fast is your code? 3 out of 4 devs don\\\'t know how their code performs in production. Find out how slow your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219672;13503038;z? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?
I have a Yamaha XY robot minus its controller. X servo (largest of the two) is Sanyo Denki: 100 watt, 3 phase, 200 VAC , 3000 rpm max with encoder attached. Looking to put it into service as a base for several rapid prototyping projects. Also would like to use it to get my feet wet before tackling a linuxcnc control retrofit on my bedmill. Already on hand: mesa 5i25 plug and go kit. I am not necessarily stuck on using it with this though (bought it for the big mill), if another product made more sense. Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for this size 3 phase servo? Sincerely, Jason -- How fast is your code? 3 out of 4 devs don\\\'t know how their code performs in production. Find out how slow your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219672;13503038;z? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Hey Gene! Hand held O'scope for ya.
Sorry to revive this with an unrelated question, but all messages I send direct to the list seem to be quarantined. What do I need to do differently? Sincerely, Jason Burton On Aug 17, 2012 4:14 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 August 2012 20:00, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for a good bang for the buck rig with either digital capture that can be downloaded for analysis, or even old school one-shot hold memory (and i'll take a photo of the screen). I have a middle-aged Tek scope with both digital storage and analog. It also has direct output to an X-Y plotter. (GPIB too) It is rather small, though not in the pocket class. (A little smaller than A4 paper footprint). It doesn't look like they were ever very common, and I paid £100 for it, which is probably a very small fraction of what all that cutting-edge tech cost in 1985. It's a Sony / Tektronix 336 and searching the internets seems to indicate that I paid less than the going rate. http://www.komu.jp/336.html shows decent pictures of one. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- How fast is your code? 3 out of 4 devs don\\\'t know how their code performs in production. Find out how slow your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219672;13503038;z? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users