Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in the next few months.

2012-09-21 Thread yann jautard

Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Mark Wendt a écrit :
 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote:
 In the linux world, when a switch like that happens (for a user
 interface or for a system library), the new version is always still
 something I personally consider as a beta version, without most of the
 must have features. So you just CANNOT be used to the new one, as it
 is just not possible to do very simple things like sorting programs by
 categories ans create a launcher on the desktop...
 And also the old apps cannot be used with the new system, or you need to
 recompile them for yourself, and solve a large amount of problems with
 the new libraries. And be happy if you can solve them :/

 just my two cents...

 yann
 Well, that's kinda where M$ ran into a lot of security problems,
 trying to support legacy applications.  I'd much rather take the
 Unix/Linux approach, and have to recompile and rebuild, than spend
 weeks hardening a system just to keep a 15 year old piece of software
 working like it used to.

 Mark

well, from an admistrator point of view, I of course agree with you.
But from the lambda user point of view, this is more another difficulty 
to turn to linux than something good, I think.
Add this + the constant changes in desktop environnement like the one we 
where talking about, and you got something quite repulsive for newbies.




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Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in the next few months.

2012-09-21 Thread Mark Wendt
 Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Mark Wendt a écrit :

 yann
 Well, that's kinda where M$ ran into a lot of security problems,
 trying to support legacy applications.  I'd much rather take the
 Unix/Linux approach, and have to recompile and rebuild, than spend
 weeks hardening a system just to keep a 15 year old piece of software
 working like it used to.

 Mark

 well, from an admistrator point of view, I of course agree with you.
 But from the lambda user point of view, this is more another difficulty
 to turn to linux than something good, I think.
 Add this + the constant changes in desktop environnement like the one we
 where talking about, and you got something quite repulsive for newbies.

It all depends on what you are used to in that regard.  M$ is no
slouch when it comes to changing the look, feel, and workability of
the desktop.  Look at the progression from Win98, to ME, to XP, to
2000, to Vista, to Win 7 and now Win 8.  It's not just from the
administrative point of view, it's from the user point of view.  I
like my applications to run, to be secure, and have a safe, secure OS
wrapping the entire thing.  Being able to recompile or load updated
apps so that they have the correct hooks into the OS so I don't have
to worry about a piece of legacy software that I like either not
compatible with, or works but not secure within the new OS is just
somewhere I really don't want to go.  And that's from both an
administrative (which I do for a living) and a user (which I'm also)
point of view.

Mark

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[Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread aaron moore
Hi EMC
 I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however 
curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone explain 
how I can improve this.
 Thanks in advance
 Aaron

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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread John Thornton
This is a good chapter on trajectory planning.

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/User_Concepts.html

and perhaps in addition to the above your acceleration might be too low 
if your doing lots of small segments.

John

On 9/21/2012 6:32 AM, aaron moore wrote:
 Hi EMC
   I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however 
 curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone 
 explain how I can improve this.
   Thanks in advance
   Aaron

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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
I also have a wood router.  For me, I rarely if evver burn wood.  When that
happens either I am taking too large of a cut or my endmill is dull.
Granted I am a hobby user and I am mostlly limited to 1/8 and 1/4 endmills
and limiting DOC to the diameter of the endmill.  I use the P64 with a
small amount of P.  I will typically cut air trying out different amounts
of P to see what my speeds are on tight radi and hard corners.

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GcodeInfo

B

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:58 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is a good chapter on trajectory planning.

 http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/User_Concepts.html

 and perhaps in addition to the above your acceleration might be too low
 if your doing lots of small segments.

 John

 On 9/21/2012 6:32 AM, aaron moore wrote:
  Hi EMC
I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines,
 however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can
 anyone explain how I can improve this.
Thanks in advance
Aaron
 
  Re-Form Furniture
Aaron Moore
Conileigh
Skinners Bottom
Redruth
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TR16 5DY
 
Tel: 01209 890084
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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread Claude Froidevaux
It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really 
heavy), and acceleration.

High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high 
moving speed on difficult trajectory.


Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit :
 Hi EMC
   I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however 
 curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone 
 explain how I can improve this.
   Thanks in advance
   Aaron

 Re-Form Furniture
   Aaron Moore
   Conileigh
   Skinners Bottom
   Redruth
   Cornwall
   TR16 5DY

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   Mob: 07805686188
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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Check your trajectory control mode: 
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a

I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or 
exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short 
moves in wood.  You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx).


On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote:
 It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really
 heavy), and acceleration.

 High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high
 moving speed on difficult trajectory.


 Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit :
 Hi EMC
I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, however 
 curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone 
 explain how I can improve this.
Thanks in advance
Aaron

 Re-Form Furniture
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Conileigh
Skinners Bottom
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Cornwall
TR16 5DY

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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread Belli Button
Is it true that Px.x  is the allowable distance from the exact tool path and 
followed by Q allows how far ahead along the tool path it can blend the 
move?  No sure myself, some one told me this once.



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To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Router speed


Check your trajectory control mode:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a

I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or
exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short
moves in wood.  You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx).


On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote:
 It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really
 heavy), and acceleration.

 High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high
 moving speed on difficult trajectory.


 Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit :
 Hi EMC
I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, 
 however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can 
 anyone explain how I can improve this.
Thanks in advance
Aaron

 Re-Form Furniture
Aaron Moore
Conileigh
Skinners Bottom
Redruth
Cornwall
TR16 5DY

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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread Belli Button
Sorry, should have read the link first!  G64 P- Q- - (Blend With Tolerance 
Mode)

Greg
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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Router speed


Check your trajectory control mode:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a

I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or
exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short
moves in wood.  You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx).


On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote:
 It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really
 heavy), and acceleration.

 High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high
 moving speed on difficult trajectory.


 Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit :
 Hi EMC
I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines, 
 however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can 
 anyone explain how I can improve this.
Thanks in advance
Aaron

 Re-Form Furniture
Aaron Moore
Conileigh
Skinners Bottom
Redruth
Cornwall
TR16 5DY

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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread Erik Friesen
What Gcode software are you using?

I upgraded vectric cut2d to vcarve pro for this very reason, because cut2d
gives thousands of segments instead of curves.  It typically cuts code size
to about 1/3.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:

 Sorry, should have read the link first!  G64 P- Q- - (Blend With Tolerance
 Mode)

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 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Router speed


 Check your trajectory control mode:

 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_trajectory_control_a_id_sec_trajectory_control_a

 I've seen CAM software put the machine in exact path mode (G61) or
 exact stop mode (G61.1), which will make it run way too slow on short
 moves in wood.  You want blend with tolerance mode (G64 Px.xxx).


 On 09/21/2012 07:38 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote:
  It can be both trajectory planning (especially if G-code is really
  heavy), and acceleration.
 
  High acceleration is a need to have fast curve speed, thus keeping high
  moving speed on difficult trajectory.
 
 
  Le 21.09.2012 13:32, aaron moore a écrit :
  Hi EMC
 I have a router running emc. Feed speed is good on straightlines,
  however curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can
  anyone explain how I can improve this.
 Thanks in advance
 Aaron
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Bar code error

2012-09-21 Thread Sven Wesley
Dave,

Could you update the forum where this question first was raised?
I told you it was a config issue, didn't I? ;)

/S

2012/9/19 Dave dhas...@paulbunyan.net

 I believe that I have figured it out.  I was able to set up the scanner
 with
 a Intercharacter Delay which places a short (ms) delay between the
 transmission of each character of scanned data.  I am now able to use
 o+filename (ex: otest) to create my barcode and only scan once to open,
 populate and load the program.  This will save a lot of time.
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Re: [Emc-users] Router speed

2012-09-21 Thread Andy Pugh


On 21 Sep 2012, at 12:32, aaron moore aaronmo...@linuxmail.org wrote:

 curves and circles are often slow and tend to burn the wood. Can anyone 
 explain how I can improve this.

This may be because your CAM program is making arcs out of very very short 
segments. You might get better results by reducing the CAM precision  
LinuxCNC ought to blend the lines anyway, so the result may be identical. 
The full explanation and solution is rather involved. The manual section on G64 
might illuminate. (I am on my phone so pasting links is hard)


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[Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-21 Thread Jason Burton
I have a Yamaha XY robot minus its controller. X servo (largest of the two)
is Sanyo Denki: 100 watt, 3 phase, 200 VAC , 3000 rpm max with encoder
attached.

Looking to put it into service as a base for several rapid prototyping
projects. Also would like to use it to get my feet wet before tackling a
linuxcnc control retrofit on my bedmill.

Already on hand: mesa 5i25 plug and go kit. I am not necessarily stuck on
using it with this though (bought it for the big mill), if another product
made more sense.

Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for
this size 3 phase servo?

Sincerely,
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Re: [Emc-users] Hey Gene! Hand held O'scope for ya.

2012-09-21 Thread Jason Burton
Sorry to revive this with an unrelated question, but all messages I send
direct to the list seem to be quarantined.

What do I need to do differently?

Sincerely,
Jason Burton
 On Aug 17, 2012 4:14 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16 August 2012 20:00, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com wrote:
  Looking for a good bang for the buck rig with either digital capture that
  can be downloaded for analysis, or even old school one-shot hold memory
  (and i'll take a photo of the screen).

 I have a middle-aged Tek scope with both digital storage and analog.
 It also has direct output to an X-Y plotter. (GPIB too)
 It is rather small, though not in the pocket class. (A little smaller
 than A4 paper footprint). It doesn't look like they were ever very
 common, and I paid £100 for it, which is probably a very small
 fraction of what all that cutting-edge tech cost in 1985.

 It's a Sony / Tektronix 336 and searching the internets seems to
 indicate that I paid less than the going rate.
 http://www.komu.jp/336.html shows decent pictures of one.

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