Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread Marius Alksnys
Maybe motion.current-vel and comp hal component, connected to some 
output pin will do the task for you?

On 10/13/2014 08:23 PM, a k wrote:
 Hello
 is it possible to make to emc2 send/generate signal like I/O signal-5 V DC
 -  when system reads G0 -rapid move?
 thank you
 aram



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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Pogo Pins

2014-10-17 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.10.14 10:41, John Kasunich wrote:
 Andy has a CNC mill, so if he has a piece of suitable plastic and a
 drill bit he can make whatever pattern he needs.

The problem with test pins, as Gene has already pointed out, is that
they are not designed as mating connectors for forming a permanent
connection.

In Kirk's shoes, where connectors to match the existing PCB hole spacing
are not available in time, and a new PCB is also too slow, I'd pull the
pins out of 0.1 pitch stackable headers, solder them into the existing
holes, while holding them in alignment with a grooved bit of plastic,
milled at the required pitch. Rather than mill a whole bunch of new pin
holders, I'd use a non-enclosing guide during soldering, and later run a
couple of beads of hot-melt glue, to mould a connector body in situ.
Spreading a little bit on the board improves support. At least then we
have mating connectors.

For me it was quicker to remove the PCB tracks, drill holes to fit
connectors which were in hand, and run a few wires. The electrons can't
tell the difference.

Erik

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2014 11:35, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe motion.current-vel and comp hal component, connected to some
 output pin will do the task for you?

Yes, that is probably easier than a remap, I was answering the
question asked rather than the question intended.

I was wondering if motion.motion-type would work but that
distinguishes between lines and arcs rather then feeds or traverses.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Pogo Pins

2014-10-17 Thread John Kasunich


On Fri, Oct 17, 2014, at 07:07 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
 
 The problem with test pins, as Gene has already pointed out, is that
 they are not designed as mating connectors for forming a permanent
 connection.

Did Kirk every say anything about a permanent connection?

I'm assuming that he is using spring-loaded test probes because he is
making a test fixture, or something similar where the connection is
temporary.


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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Pogo Pins

2014-10-17 Thread Bari
Pogo pins have been used for years in industrial thermal inkjet printers 
to temporarily electrically connect the cartridge to the carrier. With 
proper plating the connections can last for several years.

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v1/1448873486/pin_connector_printer_cartridge_hp_carriage_assembly.jpg

http://bhavmark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/hp-catridge.jpg

On 10/17/2014 07:53 AM, John Kasunich wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014, at 07:07 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
 The problem with test pins, as Gene has already pointed out, is that
 they are not designed as mating connectors for forming a permanent
 connection.
 Did Kirk every say anything about a permanent connection?

 I'm assuming that he is using spring-loaded test probes because he is
 making a test fixture, or something similar where the connection is
 temporary.




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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Pogo Pins

2014-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2014 14:03, Bari bari00...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pogo pins have been used for years in industrial thermal inkjet printers

The interface betwween my GPS and the vehicle mount appears to be very similar.
http://www.tramsoft.ch/gps/garmin_option-zumo660_autohalter_big.jpg


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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Pogo Pins

2014-10-17 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 17.10.14 08:53, John Kasunich wrote:
 Did Kirk every say anything about a permanent connection?

From Kirk's OP:
  I recall some connectors used to connect board to board, where header
  pins from the bottom board pass through the bottom of the top board and
  into a connector on top. Does anyone have a link to such connectors?

Such stackable headers form a reliable long-term connection, and the
subject matter of my posts.

 I'm assuming that he is using spring-loaded test probes because he is
 making a test fixture, or something similar where the connection is
 temporary.

And so, together, we offer a greater wealth of options.

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Andy.
Is motion.motion-type listed and described into the documentation ?
I didn't see any reference to this pin .
Am I wrong ?

Regards

Alex

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17 October 2014 11:35, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote:
  Maybe motion.current-vel and comp hal component, connected to some
  output pin will do the task for you?

 Yes, that is probably easier than a remap, I was answering the
 question asked rather than the question intended.

 I was wondering if motion.motion-type would work but that
 distinguishes between lines and arcs rather then feeds or traverses.

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2014 15:14, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is motion.motion-type listed and described into the documentation ?
 I didn't see any reference to this pin

http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html

(It is listed under debugging pins, and it is incorrect when it says
These values are from src/emc/kinematics/tc.h as the file is
actually  /src/emc/tp/tc_types.h )

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread alex chiosso
Thank you .
I am blind . :-)

Alex

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:35 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17 October 2014 15:14, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is motion.motion-type listed and described into the documentation ?
  I didn't see any reference to this pin

 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html

 (It is listed under debugging pins, and it is incorrect when it says
 These values are from src/emc/kinematics/tc.h as the file is
 actually  /src/emc/tp/tc_types.h )

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread alex chiosso
Just a note .
The debugging pins aren't listed into the PDF doc (as I can see) .
I was watching that documentation .
Thanks again.

Alex

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:40 PM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you .
 I am blind . :-)

 Alex

 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:35 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17 October 2014 15:14, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is motion.motion-type listed and described into the documentation ?
  I didn't see any reference to this pin

 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html

 (It is listed under debugging pins, and it is incorrect when it says
 These values are from src/emc/kinematics/tc.h as the file is
 actually  /src/emc/tp/tc_types.h )

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Pogo Pins

2014-10-17 Thread Kirk Wallace
I'm sorry to have caused a fuss.

They way I see it now, my mistake early on was to not realize that pogo 
pins are meant to be used with pogo sockets.

The pins are smooth so to counter the spring pressure, they need to be 
supported at the bottom end. My plan was to have a plate with holes 
drilled half way to support these pin bottoms, but this plate would not 
be able to make the electrical connection as is often done if the pins 
are set in Vero board at .1 spacing. One option I was considering was 
to use a through-board header connector. The pin would slide through a 
top plate, then through the header connector, and finally bottom out in 
the bottom plate. I could solder wires to the header connector pins.

These problems went away when I was informed about the sockets.
Socket: http://www.ectinfo.com/en/product/default.cfm?sku=117
Pin: http://www.upgradeindustries.com/media/img/products/crown_350.jpg

The pin is supported by the socket. The socket is supported through its 
ring shank, which is fixed by a hole in a single thick plate. The wire 
connection is with a solder cup or wire wrap pin on the socket's bottom. 
I can use any pin pattern with .1 spacing or larger. (here is a higher 
density example: 
http://www.ectinfo.com/fsg/category/default_product.cfm?doc=ZOOM )

I'll post pictures when I get the bits assembled.



On 10/17/2014 06:26 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
 On 17.10.14 08:53, John Kasunich wrote:
 Did Kirk every say anything about a permanent connection?

From Kirk's OP:
 I recall some connectors used to connect board to board, where header
 pins from the bottom board pass through the bottom of the top board and
 into a connector on top. Does anyone have a link to such connectors?

 Such stackable headers form a reliable long-term connection, and the
 subject matter of my posts.

 I'm assuming that he is using spring-loaded test probes because he is
 making a test fixture, or something similar where the connection is
 temporary.

 And so, together, we offer a greater wealth of options.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Pogo Pins

2014-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 October 2014 07:07:43 Erik Christiansen did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On 16.10.14 10:41, John Kasunich wrote:
  Andy has a CNC mill, so if he has a piece of suitable plastic and a
  drill bit he can make whatever pattern he needs.
 
 The problem with test pins, as Gene has already pointed out, is that
 they are not designed as mating connectors for forming a permanent
 connection.
 
 In Kirk's shoes, where connectors to match the existing PCB hole
 spacing are not available in time, and a new PCB is also too slow, I'd
 pull the pins out of 0.1 pitch stackable headers, solder them into
 the existing holes, while holding them in alignment with a grooved bit
 of plastic, milled at the required pitch. Rather than mill a whole
 bunch of new pin holders, I'd use a non-enclosing guide during
 soldering, and later run a couple of beads of hot-melt glue, to mould
 a connector body in situ. Spreading a little bit on the board improves
 support. At least then we have mating connectors.
 
 For me it was quicker to remove the PCB tracks, drill holes to fit
 connectors which were in hand, and run a few wires. The electrons can't
 tell the difference.

:)  at least not at the speeds we are using. ;-)
 
 Erik


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[Emc-users] ubuntu 10.04 on GA-J1800N-D2P

2014-10-17 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
hi folks, a little question here
i was running ubuntu from a stock 10.04 iso.
if i select trying ubuntu, OS boot and works ok.
after installing didnt boot (constantly reboot after MB vendor logo), but
if i disable one core from setup the OS boots fine.

the same with debian 7. But install cd didnt boot at all, but it does if i
disable one core again.

any clue where to look for this? is advisable to test 12.04 to see if some
isues is related with new MB or CPU features?

thanks for reading!
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Re: [Emc-users] Real-Time Image procesing in HAL (WAS opencv for shape recognition...)

2014-10-17 Thread Javier Ros
Thanks for your answers.

This looks like an important problem to me, looking at the foreseable
future Artificial Vision is going to have a preeminent role everywhere. I
expect machines including CNC controls making some use of it, anv envision
some CNC paradigm changes, leaded by this revolution.

As from LinuxCNC manual page, it says:


DESCRIPTION
hal_create_thread establishes a realtime thread that will execute one or
more HAL functions periodically.
All thread periods are rounded to integer multiples of the hardware timer
period, and the timer period is
based on the first thread created. Threads must be created in order, from
the fastest to the slowest. HAL
assigns decreasing priorities to threads that are created later, so
creating them from fastest to slowest results
in rate monotonic priority scheduling.
...

So it is rate monotonic scheduling.

So I think that the slow task, no matter how slow, will get scheduled. The
only requirement, would be to get the period for the slow thread, big
enough recording and, so that it can finish with the image grabbing
processing.

It would be nice to know, if opencv has been written with real time in
mind, so that memory allocation, pagefaults et al. works in a compatible
way can be taken away from the show time.

A interesting question would be to know, how well multicore procesors are
taken advantage by LinuxCNC HAL. Let say, can we reserve a couple of
processors ans schedule different threads in different cores?. Would HAL
execute different functions in the same thread at different cores?.


Thanks very much for your answers. I apologize for my late reply :),

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/17/2014 08:35 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 17 October 2014 15:14, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is motion.motion-type listed and described into the documentation ?
 I didn't see any reference to this pin
 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html

 (It is listed under debugging pins, and it is incorrect when it says
 These values are from src/emc/kinematics/tc.h as the file is
 actually  /src/emc/tp/tc_types.h )

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html points to the current stable release 
(2.6), and in that branch the motion types do indeed live in 
src/emc/kinematics/tc.h.

http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/ points to the master branch, 
and in that branch the motion types live in src/emc/tp/tc_types.h, not 
...tp/tc.h as the manpage says, i updated it.


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Re: [Emc-users] Real-Time Image procesing in HAL (WAS opencv for shape recognition...)

2014-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2014 20:04, Javier Ros j...@unavarra.es wrote:
 It would be nice to know, if opencv has been written with real time in
 mind, so that memory allocation, pagefaults et al. works in a compatible
 way can be taken away from the show time.

For many applications the image processing won't need to be real-time.
Tracking items on a moving conveyor might require real-time machine
vision, but things like spotting marks or choosing stationary targets
can be handled in userspace, with a module that just says I got one,
here it is

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/17/2014 08:44 AM, alex chiosso wrote:
 Just a note .
 The debugging pins aren't listed into the PDF doc (as I can see) .
 I was watching that documentation .
 Thanks again.

Which document are you looking at, Alex?

The only pdf i can see that mentions motion pins at all is this one:

http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/pdf/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf

... And it has motion.motion-type, since it's just a re-rendering of the 
motion.9 manpage.


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Re: [Emc-users] Real-Time Image procesing in HAL (WAS opencv for shape recognition...)

2014-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 October 2014 15:04:08 Javier Ros did opine
And Gene did reply:
 Thanks for your answers.
 
 This looks like an important problem to me, looking at the foreseable
 future Artificial Vision is going to have a preeminent role everywhere.
 I expect machines including CNC controls making some use of it, anv
 envision some CNC paradigm changes, leaded by this revolution.
 
 As from LinuxCNC manual page, it says:
 
 
 DESCRIPTION
 hal_create_thread establishes a realtime thread that will execute one
 or more HAL functions periodically.
 All thread periods are rounded to integer multiples of the hardware
 timer period, and the timer period is
 based on the first thread created. Threads must be created in order,
 from the fastest to the slowest. HAL
 assigns decreasing priorities to threads that are created later, so
 creating them from fastest to slowest results
 in rate monotonic priority scheduling.
 ...
 
 So it is rate monotonic scheduling.
 
 So I think that the slow task, no matter how slow, will get scheduled.
 The only requirement, would be to get the period for the slow thread,
 big enough recording and, so that it can finish with the image
 grabbing processing.
 
 It would be nice to know, if opencv has been written with real time in
 mind, so that memory allocation, pagefaults et al. works in a
 compatible way can be taken away from the show time.
 
 A interesting question would be to know, how well multicore procesors
 are taken advantage by LinuxCNC HAL. Let say, can we reserve a couple
 of processors ans schedule different threads in different cores?.
 Would HAL execute different functions in the same thread at different
 cores?.
 
 
Data point only.

Box is atom D525MW, using isolcpu's.

Even with a 40 kilohertz base thread, a 4 kilohertz servo-thread works 
well.  But it did not do a thing for the noise from the encoder other than 
make it fast enough I could lowpass filter it a bit without mucking with 
the PID stability.

Now I have a 5i25, no base-thread, still works well at 4 kilohertz.

 Thanks very much for your answers. I apologize for my late reply :),
 
 Javier
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Re: [Emc-users] Real-Time Image procesing in HAL (WAS opencv for shape recognition...)

2014-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 October 2014 15:30:10 andy pugh did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On 17 October 2014 20:04, Javier Ros j...@unavarra.es wrote:
  It would be nice to know, if opencv has been written with real time
  in mind, so that memory allocation, pagefaults et al. works in a
  compatible way can be taken away from the show time.
 
 For many applications the image processing won't need to be real-time.
 Tracking items on a moving conveyor might require real-time machine
 vision, but things like spotting marks or choosing stationary targets
 can be handled in userspace, with a module that just says I got one,
 here it is

Driving the machine to center that mark so you can record it using the 
align package, is however pretty frustrating when its 5 seconds after you 
have taken the finger off the moveit key before the camera shows you where 
its actually at.  In fact, its a right pain in the arse.

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Sebastian.
I was looking at the Integrator Manual at the section that describes the
motion Hal component.
Il giorno 17/ott/2014 20:49, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com ha
scritto:

 On 10/17/2014 08:44 AM, alex chiosso wrote:
  Just a note .
  The debugging pins aren't listed into the PDF doc (as I can see) .
  I was watching that documentation .
  Thanks again.

 Which document are you looking at, Alex?

 The only pdf i can see that mentions motion pins at all is this one:

 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/pdf/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf

 ... And it has motion.motion-type, since it's just a re-rendering of the
 motion.9 manpage.


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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread a k
About:
I was wondering if motion.motion-type would work but that
distinguishes between lines and arcs rather then feeds or traverses.

Motion can be 2 type -- first -- when machine does deposition/cutting -
actual work and second - when machine position themself to the
next beginning point.
when machine does cutting/deposition -- that happened with G1  + feed.
when machine position themself to the next beginning point then it use G0 -
rapid move.
I want really identify what kind of motion in any given moment -- is it G1
(cutting -metal removing etc) or is it  G0 (rapid motion to the next
starting point)
When it is G1 then it will activate deposition system. When motion G0
rapid- then i need to idle deposition system.
some idea.







On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:32 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17 October 2014 11:35, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote:
  Maybe motion.current-vel and comp hal component, connected to some
  output pin will do the task for you?

 Yes, that is probably easier than a remap, I was answering the
 question asked rather than the question intended.

 I was wondering if motion.motion-type would work but that
 distinguishes between lines and arcs rather then feeds or traverses.

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Re: [Emc-users] F0

2014-10-17 Thread alex chiosso
Why do not use a custom M function syncronized to do that ?
M1xx G1 X100 Y240 F100
Into the M1xx you can fit the Hal code to perform what you need.
Il giorno 17/ott/2014 21:30, a k pccncmach...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 About:
 I was wondering if motion.motion-type would work but that
 distinguishes between lines and arcs rather then feeds or traverses.

 Motion can be 2 type -- first -- when machine does deposition/cutting -
 actual work and second - when machine position themself to the
 next beginning point.
 when machine does cutting/deposition -- that happened with G1  + feed.
 when machine position themself to the next beginning point then it use G0 -
 rapid move.
 I want really identify what kind of motion in any given moment -- is it G1
 (cutting -metal removing etc) or is it  G0 (rapid motion to the next
 starting point)
 When it is G1 then it will activate deposition system. When motion G0
 rapid- then i need to idle deposition system.
 some idea.







 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:32 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 17 October 2014 11:35, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Maybe motion.current-vel and comp hal component, connected to some
   output pin will do the task for you?
 
  Yes, that is probably easier than a remap, I was answering the
  question asked rather than the question intended.
 
  I was wondering if motion.motion-type would work but that
  distinguishes between lines and arcs rather then feeds or traverses.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Real-Time Image procesing in HAL (WAS opencv for shape recognition...)

2014-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2014 20:57, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Driving the machine to center that mark so you can record it using the
 align package, is however pretty frustrating when its 5 seconds after you
 have taken the finger off the moveit key before the camera shows you where
 its actually at.

That's not a realtime issue, that's a computer too slow issue.

If that 5 seconds was servo thread time just think what else would be
going wrong..

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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu 10.04 on GA-J1800N-D2P

2014-10-17 Thread Dave Cole

That is an Intel Baytrail based board.   You need at least Ubuntu 
12.04 and preferably 14.04 to run that board.

I think there are video issues with 12.04 and Baytrail unless you run 
the Vesa drivers and that is a compromise.

Google Baytrail Ubuntu for more info.

I have Debian Wheezy running on a Baytrail GA J1900N board and that 
works ok.  Super low power consumption of about 6 watts including an SSD.

Dave

On 10/17/2014 12:02 PM, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote:
 hi folks, a little question here
 i was running ubuntu from a stock 10.04 iso.
 if i select trying ubuntu, OS boot and works ok.
 after installing didnt boot (constantly reboot after MB vendor logo), but
 if i disable one core from setup the OS boots fine.

 the same with debian 7. But install cd didnt boot at all, but it does if i
 disable one core again.

 any clue where to look for this? is advisable to test 12.04 to see if some
 isues is related with new MB or CPU features?

 thanks for reading!
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Re: [Emc-users] Real-Time Image procesing in HAL (WAS opencv for shape recognition...)

2014-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 October 2014 16:59:33 andy pugh did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On 17 October 2014 20:57, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Driving the machine to center that mark so you can record it using
  the align package, is however pretty frustrating when its 5 seconds
  after you have taken the finger off the moveit key before the camera
  shows you where its actually at.
 
 That's not a realtime issue, that's a computer too slow issue.
 
 If that 5 seconds was servo thread time just think what else would be
 going wrong..

I don't think so Andy, because theres at least 4 or 5 full processes 
looking at and possibly adding to that image between the camera and the 
display window.  I have tried a much slower base thread and the lag was 
still the same.  Looking at the camera itself with something like cheese, 
it is much faster, but thats right out of the camera, raw. No cropping, 
DRO additions  no crosshairs or target circles added, I suspect a faster 
USB might help some, and a cpu running at 15ghz would help, but thats an 
1.4ghz atom  thats all on one core.  Firefox doesn't lag, and neither 
does konversation, the IRC client.  Typically both are running.

Camunits runs at a low enough priority, but all that buffer copying 
between the various video treatment modules does take time.

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Re: [Emc-users] Real-Time Image procesing in HAL (WAS opencv for shape recognition...)

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Buckley
Not sure if the following link will be helpful for anyone, but I did
stumble across it.

http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/beaglebone-video-capture-and-image-processing-on-embedded-linux-using-opencv/


On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Friday 17 October 2014 16:59:33 andy pugh did opine
 And Gene did reply:
  On 17 October 2014 20:57, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   Driving the machine to center that mark so you can record it using
   the align package, is however pretty frustrating when its 5 seconds
   after you have taken the finger off the moveit key before the camera
   shows you where its actually at.
 
  That's not a realtime issue, that's a computer too slow issue.
 
  If that 5 seconds was servo thread time just think what else would be
  going wrong..

 I don't think so Andy, because theres at least 4 or 5 full processes
 looking at and possibly adding to that image between the camera and the
 display window.  I have tried a much slower base thread and the lag was
 still the same.  Looking at the camera itself with something like cheese,
 it is much faster, but thats right out of the camera, raw. No cropping,
 DRO additions  no crosshairs or target circles added, I suspect a faster
 USB might help some, and a cpu running at 15ghz would help, but thats an
 1.4ghz atom  thats all on one core.  Firefox doesn't lag, and neither
 does konversation, the IRC client.  Typically both are running.

 Camunits runs at a low enough priority, but all that buffer copying
 between the various video treatment modules does take time.

 Cheers, Gene Heskett
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