Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit and LinuxCNC
Hi Dave; Thanks for the response; I don't think that its bleak at all. Like you, I see continual improvement, and a great future. Open Source: I did manage the largest and longest running open source project in the Canadian Government. Million++ of downloads, distributed for a while by Apple, used by NASA and CERN, etc, etc. But when it came time to present work at a HTML5 yearly meeting, I presented a colleagues' work (from Fraunhofer, in Germany) because that project made more sense for integration with HTML5. So, I fully expect that we will continue to see improvement and progress, and adoption of the best of the ideas. Regards - JohnS. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
We had the discussion with a few people during the Stuttgart meetup on how to aid advancing LinuxCNC towards specific things needed when used in an industrial environment. What my suggestion was is to hire someone to implement the missing features - or even crowdsource the funding for fixing bugs and implementing the missing features. As it turns out - a platform for that already exists: https://www.bountysource.com Let me know what you think. --Christian -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
On 3 November 2014 12:42, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: What my suggestion was is to hire someone to implement the missing features - or even crowdsource the funding for fixing bugs and implementing the missing features. How would you determine the payment due for the time taken for someone to get up to speed with all the necessary parts of the system? Before working out how to get the changes that you want made, is there a list of what those changes are? Some may be on the way, some may be easy, some may be impossible (or at least incompatible) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
I would be willing to pay to have new features added, trouble is, I doubt that I could pay enough! To think what we pay the current developers... Cheers, -Original Message- From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 November 2014 15:26 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed On 3 November 2014 12:42, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: What my suggestion was is to hire someone to implement the missing features - or even crowdsource the funding for fixing bugs and implementing the missing features. How would you determine the payment due for the time taken for someone to get up to speed with all the necessary parts of the system? Before working out how to get the changes that you want made, is there a list of what those changes are? Some may be on the way, some may be easy, some may be impossible (or at least incompatible) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
I tend to think something like this is going to have to be the future of open source. Volunteers to get a concept to something somewhat useable, generate critical mass of users and then some sort of funding contribution so the project can be advanced in a more professional manner with people paid something to do the less fun work like documentation which seems to be the bane of all things open source. --Original Mail-- From: Belli Button be...@iafrica.com To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 15:57:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed I would be willing to pay to have new features added, trouble is, I doubt that I could pay enough! To think what we pay the current developers... Cheers, -Original Message- From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 November 2014 15:26 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed On 3 November 2014 12:42, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: What my suggestion was is to hire someone to implement the missing features - or even crowdsource the funding for fixing bugs and implementing the missing features. How would you determine the payment due for the time taken for someone to get up to speed with all the necessary parts of the system? Before working out how to get the changes that you want made, is there a list of what those changes are? Some may be on the way, some may be easy, some may be impossible (or at least incompatible) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
On Monday 03 November 2014 08:26:27 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: On 3 November 2014 12:42, Christian Stأ¶veken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: What my suggestion was is to hire someone to implement the missing features - or even crowdsource the funding for fixing bugs and implementing the missing features. How would you determine the payment due for the time taken for someone to get up to speed with all the necessary parts of the system? Before working out how to get the changes that you want made, is there a list of what those changes are? Some may be on the way, some may be easy, some may be impossible (or at least incompatible) +1000 Andy. Great minds and all that. IMNSHO, the best crew we have, to determine how to do a new feature, or fix what some might perceive as a bug, are the people who haunt the developers list, and even this list. Obviously they have a much better overview than anyone walking in cold to do it from some bounty site. A huge tip of the hat to those folks, it is well deserved IMO. OTOH, when some of you have a get together, Wichita or where ever, it would be nice if those of us who are the beneficiaries of this great software, had a place where we could toss a $20 bill in the hat (paypal account?) for food beverages when there is a meeting. Even if I am on SS for my major needs, that is an idea I could support occasionally. Think about it. It would be a great way for those of us who can't make the trip to say thank you to the people who make it happen. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] linuxcnc web site got hacked
It's all Russian to me. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc web site got hacked
it is all good (english) for me Viesturs 2014-11-03 22:19 GMT+02:00 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com: It's all Russian to me. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc web site got hacked
does this make it english? http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english sam On 11/3/2014 2:19 PM, Sven Wesley wrote: It's all Russian to me. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc web site got hacked
The linuxcnc.org CMS software (joomla) is simplistic in the way it handles language. If you arrive (for instance by search) at a page with /russian/ in the URL, it sets your language on that computer to russian until you click the link for your preferred language in the sidebar. It's a surprise the first few times you do it :-P After that, you learn to find and click that english link right away. Jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc web site got hacked
Seems Chrome decided to pickup a language cookie, might be some link I followed to the site that changed the language. 2014-11-03 21:36 GMT+01:00 Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net: The linuxcnc.org CMS software (joomla) is simplistic in the way it handles language. If you arrive (for instance by search) at a page with /russian/ in the URL, it sets your language on that computer to russian until you click the link for your preferred language in the sidebar. It's a surprise the first few times you do it :-P After that, you learn to find and click that english link right away. Jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc web site got hacked
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 09:57:52PM +0100, Sven Wesley wrote: Seems Chrome decided to pickup a language cookie, might be some link I followed to the site that changed the language. I've modified the robots.txt of linuxcnc.org to encourage search engines not to return results on /language/ pages. Perhaps this will help at some time in the future. Jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
On 11/03/2014 10:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 03 November 2014 08:26:27 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: ...snip... OTOH, when some of you have a get together, Wichita or where ever, it would be nice if those of us who are the beneficiaries of this great software, had a place where we could toss a $20 bill in the hat (paypal account?) for food beverages when there is a meeting. Even if I am on SS for my major needs, that is an idea I could support occasionally. ...snip... Cheers, Gene Heskett I agree Gene. I once offered to pay for a new traj planner had no takers What I DID get was/is a great app that is evolving. Some of _us_ dont understand some of the evolving, but it works better each time I try a new revision so I'm all for some way to give something back. I get asked to write code when I ask what I can do, but this stuff is past me. I'd like to contribute something and dont have *ANY* qualms about any donations being abused. All that we have now has been GIVEN to us. At least 3 cheers for the devs. Lemme know if there's anything I could get you guys. my2c TomP tjtr33 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
On 3 November 2014 12:42, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: What my suggestion was is to hire someone to implement the missing features - or even crowdsource the funding for fixing bugs and implementing the missing features. What I forgot to say earlier, is that you can do this if there is something you specifically want. You don't even have to ask anyone for permission. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Getting featues implemented / bugs fixed
On Monday 03 November 2014 18:14:30 TJoseph Powderly did opine And Gene did reply: On 11/03/2014 10:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 03 November 2014 08:26:27 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: ...snip... OTOH, when some of you have a get together, Wichita or where ever, it would be nice if those of us who are the beneficiaries of this great software, had a place where we could toss a $20 bill in the hat (paypal account?) for food beverages when there is a meeting. Even if I am on SS for my major needs, that is an idea I could support occasionally. ...snip... Cheers, Gene Heskett I agree Gene. I once offered to pay for a new traj planner had no takers What I DID get was/is a great app that is evolving. Some of _us_ dont understand some of the evolving, but it works better each time I try a new revision Yep, its getting to where we really have to push every button in sight, to find an unexpected action in what is now 2.6.4 Sadly, I can't say the same for the sims I occasionally run here on this house machine. I would love to try gmocappy, but when you cannot home it due to its thinking the home switches are all already closed, that doesn't give me a warm/fuzzy. OTOH, I haven't even looked at the .hal files that are supplied. I suspect its a very easy fix if I did. And I have not found the button that opens a file requester so I can simulate code I already have. The axis interfaces OTOH still work well for the sim's here which is what I run in the shop on real (but too small, the usual comment about the cost of Makers Mark vs the occasional beer I can afford) machinery. so I'm all for some way to give something back. Sounds like a plan. There are people here who have given me something I didn't even know I needed, or sold me the makings for a project for pocket change. I won't name you, but you DO know who you are, and I thank you, a lot. Net result is that I feel 2 to 3 hundred dollars donated over time might bring it back into balancing the books. I get asked to write code when I ask what I can do, but this stuff is past me. I'd like to contribute something and dont have *ANY* qualms about any donations being abused. Neither do I. All that we have now has been GIVEN to us. At least 3 cheers for the devs. Hip, Hip, Hurrah. :) Lemme know if there's anything I could get you guys. my2c TomP tjtr33 --- --- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
