Re: [Emc-users] MPG detents

[Chris Albertson]

Gene,

What you want is not a diode but a differential line receiver.   Not
surprised at all that when you look at one half of the signal you see a lot
of noise.   The receivers will eliminate the common mode noise problem near
 completely.  You Cat-5 cable is already set up for this kind of signal
with four twisted pairs.

If you do get a diode the kind to buy are called "TVS Diode",   TVS =
"Transient Voltage Suppressor" they are made exactly for this job and will
absorb much more energy than a Zener.They are easy to find and cheap.
You should not use them for noise, they are for circuit protection.

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Thursday 02 March 2017 14:02:30 Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 02 March 2017 13:53:32 Kurt Jacobson wrote:
> > > There should be a flat rubber gasket with holes for the three
> > > mounting studs. If not I guess it would be a good idea to use some
> > > sort of "goop" to seal the interface and keep coolent from getting
> > > to the encoder.
> > >
> > > Kurt Jacobson
> > > 505-303-1933
> > > Sent from Mobile
> >
> > Goop, Go2, same stuff I think, but Go2 comes in a much handier to use
> > container.  I'll do that to mine when I mount them.  Thanks Kurt.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> It turns out that black bit that looks like a skirt on the rear housing
> pan, is in fact a separate piece, a soft plastic like gasket, so I
> didn't add any goop.
>
> But, I have the nuts tightened on the switches, and the panel all wired
> up, and power on the jog wheels, losing 11 millivolts in each conductor
> on the trip out over 14' of stranded cat5 wire. The noise is just at
> borderline when the motors are powered up.
>
> These encoders aren't active drive to whichever rail they are headed for
> on the scope and only make 3.75 volts for a logic one, and that impinges
> of the upper noise margin some.
>
> I don't have wire conductors enough to make up a differential receiver,
> so I'm inclined to run them past a small capacitor hooked to ground to
> absorb some of the noise right at the 7i90's GPIO input.
>
> And even bigger question is that there is a huge spike on the leading
> edge of the uprising edge, and it switches from the A channel to the B
> channel depending on which direction I am cranking the dial. Obviously
> there is a need for additional bypassing of the power rails right at the
> wheels +- terminals or very close. I haven't made any connections to the
> 7i90 yet as the peak voltage of these spikes is about 6.75 volts.
>
> Peter C. W.; would a 1n914 type diode (I have at least 50 of those, not
> all tested and good, be fast enough if installed to clamp the data lines
> at 1 vbe, about 5.75 volts, well above above the 5.04 volt 7i90 supply
> rail?  Or is allowing about 5.75 volts at a GPIO input playing with
> fire?  Or do I need to locate a 4 pack of some 4 volt zeners?  More
> wasted time as I know the shack doesn't have any such critters.
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] MPG detents

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 08 March 2017 16:21:03 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Thursday 02 March 2017 14:02:30 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 02 March 2017 13:53:32 Kurt Jacobson wrote:
> > > There should be a flat rubber gasket with holes for the three
> > > mounting studs. If not I guess it would be a good idea to use some
> > > sort of "goop" to seal the interface and keep coolent from getting
> > > to the encoder.
> > >
> > > Kurt Jacobson
> > > 505-303-1933
> > > Sent from Mobile
> >
> > Goop, Go2, same stuff I think, but Go2 comes in a much handier to
> > use container.  I'll do that to mine when I mount them.  Thanks
> > Kurt.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> It turns out that black bit that looks like a skirt on the rear
> housing pan, is in fact a separate piece, a soft plastic like gasket,
> so I didn't add any goop.
>
> But, I have the nuts tightened on the switches, and the panel all
> wired up, and power on the jog wheels, losing 11 millivolts in each
> conductor on the trip out over 14' of stranded cat5 wire. The noise is
> just at borderline when the motors are powered up.
>
> These encoders aren't active drive to whichever rail they are headed
> for on the scope and only make 3.75 volts for a logic one, and that
> impinges of the upper noise margin some.
>
> I don't have wire conductors enough to make up a differential
> receiver, so I'm inclined to run them past a small capacitor hooked to
> ground to absorb some of the noise right at the 7i90's GPIO input.
>
> And even bigger question is that there is a huge spike on the leading
> edge of the uprising edge, and it switches from the A channel to the B
> channel depending on which direction I am cranking the dial. Obviously
> there is a need for additional bypassing of the power rails right at
> the wheels +- terminals or very close. I haven't made any connections
> to the 7i90 yet as the peak voltage of these spikes is about 6.75
> volts.
>
> Peter C. W.; would a 1n914 type diode (I have at least 50 of those,
> not all tested and good, be fast enough if installed to clamp the data
> lines at 1 vbe, about 5.75 volts, well above above the 5.04 volt 7i90
> supply rail?  Or is allowing about 5.75 volts at a GPIO input playing
> with fire?  Or do I need to locate a 4 pack of some 4 volt zeners? 
> More wasted time as I know the shack doesn't have any such critters.
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Addendum, DigiKey has no zeners below 4.7 volts.

Which is odd, because years ago the semi people claimed that was both the 
highest voltage, and the most stable voltage for a true zener. Anything 
above 4.7 volts was in fact not a true zener, but an avalanche diode and 
would drift low with time because that damaged the junction given enough 
time and current even if the current was so low that heating was only a 
few degrees. In my repair work over the last few decades, I've never 
found a zener rated at more than 12 volts that wasn't by the time I 
tested it, well out of tolerance low.  One 10 volt was actually dumping 
at just over 5.75 volts, which actually was the cause of the circuit 
malfunction. It had not been powered down except for power failures in 
about 20 years then as it handily predated my coming on board in 1984 by 
at least 15 years then.

I am tempted to take, since I've a couple bags of them, about 6 of these 
1n914's in series, which would give me a softly regulated 3.4 to 3.6 
volts if I feed the top with 5 volts thru a 47 ohm resistor for forward 
bias, and fork an additional 1n914 off toward each data line.  That, and 
a small ceramic cap to ground to absorb some of the motor switching 
noise ought to clean it up quite a bit.  Too beat tonight, but I'll 
cobble up something on a perfboard tomorrow for testing.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] MPG detents

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 02 March 2017 14:02:30 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Thursday 02 March 2017 13:53:32 Kurt Jacobson wrote:
> > There should be a flat rubber gasket with holes for the three
> > mounting studs. If not I guess it would be a good idea to use some
> > sort of "goop" to seal the interface and keep coolent from getting
> > to the encoder.
> >
> > Kurt Jacobson
> > 505-303-1933
> > Sent from Mobile
>
> Goop, Go2, same stuff I think, but Go2 comes in a much handier to use
> container.  I'll do that to mine when I mount them.  Thanks Kurt.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

It turns out that black bit that looks like a skirt on the rear housing 
pan, is in fact a separate piece, a soft plastic like gasket, so I 
didn't add any goop.

But, I have the nuts tightened on the switches, and the panel all wired 
up, and power on the jog wheels, losing 11 millivolts in each conductor 
on the trip out over 14' of stranded cat5 wire. The noise is just at 
borderline when the motors are powered up.

These encoders aren't active drive to whichever rail they are headed for 
on the scope and only make 3.75 volts for a logic one, and that impinges 
of the upper noise margin some.

I don't have wire conductors enough to make up a differential receiver, 
so I'm inclined to run them past a small capacitor hooked to ground to 
absorb some of the noise right at the 7i90's GPIO input.

And even bigger question is that there is a huge spike on the leading 
edge of the uprising edge, and it switches from the A channel to the B 
channel depending on which direction I am cranking the dial. Obviously 
there is a need for additional bypassing of the power rails right at the 
wheels +- terminals or very close. I haven't made any connections to the 
7i90 yet as the peak voltage of these spikes is about 6.75 volts.

Peter C. W.; would a 1n914 type diode (I have at least 50 of those, not 
all tested and good, be fast enough if installed to clamp the data lines 
at 1 vbe, about 5.75 volts, well above above the 5.04 volt 7i90 supply 
rail?  Or is allowing about 5.75 volts at a GPIO input playing with 
fire?  Or do I need to locate a 4 pack of some 4 volt zeners?  More 
wasted time as I know the shack doesn't have any such critters.

Thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[Ralph Stirling]

I'll vouch for that!  I had never heard of Knipex until a student of mine
brought in his set of wrenches and pliers.  Very high quality German
tools.  The adjustable wrench is a very ingenious design that keeps the
jaws parallel, with a quick adjust (rather than Crescent style worm gear)
and infinite adjustment (unlike Channellock).  Prices are not cheap, but
not exhorbitant either.

-- Ralph

From: TJoseph Powderly [tjt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:06 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

try knipex pliers wrench

On 03/08/17 18:55, Mark wrote:
> On 03/07/2017 11:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Tuesday 07 March 2017 23:00:32 Todd Zuercher wrote:
>>
>>> Ahhh, ye old "booger" wrench, the perfect tool for rounding off "any"
>>> sized bolt.
>>>
>> Shhh now, Todd, you might let the cat out of the bag, and its mad enough
>> already. :)
>>
>> Actually, if it has a solid frame, and a well made screw, they aren't
>> that bad.  But the $7 model?  Donbesilly. But its ideal to clamp to the
>> mill table with something under the handle, and the screw well
>> tightened, and run a 1/4" end mill over it till theres only an eighth
>> inch left.  And hide it in a drawer of the lathe till you need to loosen
>> those same nuts again, so there is (occasionally) a method to my
>> apparent madness.
>>
>> I carried a 4" real "Crescent" wrench in my pocket for almost 40 years
>> before I took a good look at it, decided it was worn enough to trash,
>> did, then have yet to find another copy of that same wrench, it could go
>> up to about 3/8"s of an inch which was usually enough.  That 4"er was
>> truly a quality made tool and served me well. It was truly an old old
>> friend. Unfortunately, Crescent is now owned by Cooper Tools, and it is
>> no longer the quality product all others are compared to. Cooper is imo,
>> incapable of building a quality tool.
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> You ought to trythe Snap-On version of the venerable Crescent wrench.
> No rounding off nuts or bolts with those.  Unless you don't snug up the
> jaws.  No loose sloppy fits in the Snap-In version. My Dad got me the
> three piece set for my birthday almost thirty years ago and the chrome
> finish still looks brand new, the jaws are still solid and fit and all
> three down to the 4" one still get a good workout.
>
>
> Mark
if you can find 'em, they're great
http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1358&groupID=2175
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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[TJoseph Powderly]

try knipex pliers wrench

On 03/08/17 18:55, Mark wrote:
> On 03/07/2017 11:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Tuesday 07 March 2017 23:00:32 Todd Zuercher wrote:
>>
>>> Ahhh, ye old "booger" wrench, the perfect tool for rounding off "any"
>>> sized bolt.
>>>
>> Shhh now, Todd, you might let the cat out of the bag, and its mad enough
>> already. :)
>>
>> Actually, if it has a solid frame, and a well made screw, they aren't
>> that bad.  But the $7 model?  Donbesilly. But its ideal to clamp to the
>> mill table with something under the handle, and the screw well
>> tightened, and run a 1/4" end mill over it till theres only an eighth
>> inch left.  And hide it in a drawer of the lathe till you need to loosen
>> those same nuts again, so there is (occasionally) a method to my
>> apparent madness.
>>
>> I carried a 4" real "Crescent" wrench in my pocket for almost 40 years
>> before I took a good look at it, decided it was worn enough to trash,
>> did, then have yet to find another copy of that same wrench, it could go
>> up to about 3/8"s of an inch which was usually enough.  That 4"er was
>> truly a quality made tool and served me well. It was truly an old old
>> friend. Unfortunately, Crescent is now owned by Cooper Tools, and it is
>> no longer the quality product all others are compared to. Cooper is imo,
>> incapable of building a quality tool.
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> You ought to trythe Snap-On version of the venerable Crescent wrench.
> No rounding off nuts or bolts with those.  Unless you don't snug up the
> jaws.  No loose sloppy fits in the Snap-In version. My Dad got me the
> three piece set for my birthday almost thirty years ago and the chrome
> finish still looks brand new, the jaws are still solid and fit and all
> three down to the 4" one still get a good workout.
>
>
> Mark
if you can find 'em, they're great
http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1358&groupID=2175
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Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber][OT]

[R.L. Wurdack]

I just did our place, 46 squares of 50 year stuff at 495 pounds per square 
on a 5/12 pitch, 23000lbs. Can't even consider 10 lbs - especially on 
anything steeper than 5/12.


- Original Message - 
From: "andy pugh" 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee,is list in anechoic 
chamber]


> On 7 March 2017 at 22:31, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>>> When my dad and I re-roofed his house we decided to put back the
>>> "shingles" that had already been there 500 years.
>>> http://www.bodgesoc.org/Slaithwaite2/Front.JPG
>>
>> Slate?  Good idea, but don't let your insurance or the fire Dept. know.
>
> Sandstone. About 50 tons of it,
> I reckon it would take a while to burn through this structure (all oak)
> http://www.bodgesoc.org/Slaithwaite2/Hall3.JPG
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[Joseph Chiu]

What kind of pricing are you expecting? Searching for sealed anti vandal 12
mm pushbuttons yields a fair number of good looking candidates with longer
bodies...

On Mar 6, 2017 2:43 PM, "Gene Heskett"  wrote:

> I bought what I thought were 3 momentary contact spst pushbutton at the
> Bridgeport shack Saturday. I opened the plastic bag to measure them and
> machine the holes in the apron to hold them Saturday night.
>
> Putting the thing back together slowly today, I wondered if my dvm could
> show me which end was which on the led in the button but at 1.7 volts,
> no, so I moved the probes to check the switch, pushed it once, goes to
> zero ohms and stays there until I push it again!  No place on the bag
> does it say alternate action. And I don't care how gently you push it,
> no hint of an alternate action can be felt.
>
> And fleabay is no help, all are wrong mounting, everthing is nuts on the
> backside of the panel, without a long enough of a thread to work in a
> panel that despite the front being countersunk 5mm's, is still 8+mm's
> thick. Ditto digikey, Newark-Element14, and Mouser. And no one makes it
> easy to spec the desired diameter and mount. Somebody, and it sure isn't
> going to be me, could spend weeks finding a front of the panel, pushes
> into a 12mm hole to mount momentary contact switch. I am not about to
> sit and read 40,000 pdf's just to find out how big it is and how it
> mounts. I wouldn't mind a spring loaded to off toggle, but everything I
> tried recently needed an extra 2" on the handle to toggle it w/o cutting
> fingers on the bat handle. I've dealt with pushbutton toggles before and
> they have uniformly been a high rate of replacement items, the toggle
> gives up in <1000 pushes.
>
> Do I make brackets for minimicroswitches and machine my own buttons to
> push the rollers?
>
> The whole world is on backorder, and until its not, we are not going to
> make America Great again.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[Ed]

On 03/08/2017 07:39 AM, Ken Strauss wrote:
> Does the adjustment on a Bahco still turn the opposite way from most other
> brands?
>
OHHH! Does that mean it for a Lefty?

I saw one like that a few years ago, made in Ukraine.

Ed.


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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[Ken Strauss]

Does the adjustment on a Bahco still turn the opposite way from most other 
brands?

> -Original Message-
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 7:57 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack
>
> On 8 March 2017 at 04:35, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > , then have yet to find another copy of that same wrench,
>
> You could try the Baby Bahco.
> https://www.amazon.com/Bahco-8069-US-Adjustable-
> Wrench/dp/B005S4ENJC
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

[Peter Blodow]

Thanks, Andy. Telling from the pictures there was a bit more to do than 
replacing some wooden pegs, I think. Our house is a little younger, only 
about 150 years, but when we bought it, it also was something like a 
well organized ruin. I know what refurbishing a house means.

Peter

Am 08.03.2017 12:55, schrieb andy pugh:
> On 8 March 2017 at 11:23, Peter Blodow  wrote:
>> what was subject of the re-roofing if the beams and "shingles" all
>> stayed the same? Thermal insulation?
> The roof had fallen off. The slates hang from wooden pegs through
> holes punched near the top. Those had largely failed.
> Full story here: http://www.bodgesoc.org/slaithwaite.html
> (a web page from the time of 28k8 modems when thumbnails really were
> thumbnail sized)
>


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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 08 March 2017 07:57:07 andy pugh wrote:

> On 8 March 2017 at 04:35, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > , then have yet to find another copy of that same wrench,
>
> You could try the Baby Bahco.
> https://www.amazon.com/Bahco-8069-US-Adjustable-Wrench/dp/B005S4ENJC

I just bought the channellock, thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[andy pugh]

On 8 March 2017 at 04:35, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> , then have yet to find another copy of that same wrench,

You could try the Baby Bahco.
https://www.amazon.com/Bahco-8069-US-Adjustable-Wrench/dp/B005S4ENJC

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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 07 March 2017 23:57:41 Stuart Stevenson wrote:

> Check the 804 4.5 inch adjustable wrench from channellock. Very well
> made. I consider it indestructible for a wrench that size. Around 20
> dollars.
>
Thanks Stuart. I haven't seen it locally, so I just bought one for $16.79 
on fleabay, s/b here Saturday, with free shipping.

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Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack

[Mark]

On 03/07/2017 11:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 March 2017 23:00:32 Todd Zuercher wrote:
>
>> Ahhh, ye old "booger" wrench, the perfect tool for rounding off "any"
>> sized bolt.
>>
> Shhh now, Todd, you might let the cat out of the bag, and its mad enough
> already. :)
>
> Actually, if it has a solid frame, and a well made screw, they aren't
> that bad.  But the $7 model?  Donbesilly. But its ideal to clamp to the
> mill table with something under the handle, and the screw well
> tightened, and run a 1/4" end mill over it till theres only an eighth
> inch left.  And hide it in a drawer of the lathe till you need to loosen
> those same nuts again, so there is (occasionally) a method to my
> apparent madness.
>
> I carried a 4" real "Crescent" wrench in my pocket for almost 40 years
> before I took a good look at it, decided it was worn enough to trash,
> did, then have yet to find another copy of that same wrench, it could go
> up to about 3/8"s of an inch which was usually enough.  That 4"er was
> truly a quality made tool and served me well. It was truly an old old
> friend. Unfortunately, Crescent is now owned by Cooper Tools, and it is
> no longer the quality product all others are compared to. Cooper is imo,
> incapable of building a quality tool.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

You ought to trythe Snap-On version of the venerable Crescent wrench.  
No rounding off nuts or bolts with those.  Unless you don't snug up the 
jaws.  No loose sloppy fits in the Snap-In version. My Dad got me the 
three piece set for my birthday almost thirty years ago and the chrome 
finish still looks brand new, the jaws are still solid and fit and all 
three down to the 4" one still get a good workout.


Mark


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Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

[andy pugh]

On 8 March 2017 at 11:23, Peter Blodow  wrote:
> what was subject of the re-roofing if the beams and "shingles" all
> stayed the same? Thermal insulation?

The roof had fallen off. The slates hang from wooden pegs through
holes punched near the top. Those had largely failed.
Full story here: http://www.bodgesoc.org/slaithwaite.html
(a web page from the time of 28k8 modems when thumbnails really were
thumbnail sized)

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Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

[Peter Blodow]

Andy,
what was subject of the re-roofing if the beams and "shingles" all 
stayed the same? Thermal insulation?
Peter

Am 07.03.2017 16:26, schrieb andy pugh:
> On 7 March 2017 at 14:05, Dave Cole  wrote:
>> I re-roofed the house a few years ago and decided against 50 year
>> shingles since I won't need anything that will last that long. ;-)
> When my dad and I re-roofed his house we decided to put back the
> "shingles" that had already been there 500 years.
> http://www.bodgesoc.org/Slaithwaite2/Front.JPG
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