Re: [Emc-users] connecting up glade files in axis

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 07 June 2021 18:59:34 andrew beck wrote:

> andy!
>
> if I rename the files to.ui files glade vcp files work fine in axis
>
> thanks
>
> mate
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 9:37 PM andy pugh  wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 05:35, andrew beck  
wrote:
> > > Axis just chokes on the glade file.
> >
> > Can you start LinuxCNC from the command line and paste the output
> > here?

Posted earlier.

> > Which LinuxCNC branch?

git branch is master-gtk3, but there isn't a master-gkk3 reference, so I 
have to first checkout master, do the pull, and then switch back to 
master-gtk3.

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] connecting up glade files in axis

[andrew beck]

andy!

if I rename the files to.ui files glade vcp files work fine in axis

thanks

mate

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 9:37 PM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 05:35, andrew beck  wrote:
> >
> > Axis just chokes on the glade file.
>
> Can you start LinuxCNC from the command line and paste the output here?
>
> Which LinuxCNC branch?
>
> --
> atp
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> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

[Todd Zuercher]

It might work, but you may have trouble with the pellet sticking in the seat 
and not opening when you need it to, or worse yet if your part doen't quite 
seal good enough to the table, sucking shut and losing all holding power.

What I've seen more commonly used is a spring loaded valve where a spring 
pushes the pellet(ball) up to seal the vacuum port.  When no part is in place 
the spring pushes the ball up to seal the vacuum port, and the ball sticks up a 
bit above the part sealing surface.  When the part is placed on top, it pushes 
the ball down opening the valve and allowing the vacuum to flow.  

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street 
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-Original Message-
From: Leonardo Marsaglia  
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2021 11:50 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe.

I meant to say:

When there is a part over that hole and before the pump is on, the pellet will 
be resting on the groove. As soon as the pump is on the vacuum will be 
immediately sealed by the part, not allowing the suction to suck the pellet

El dom, 6 jun 2021 a las 0:48, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Hello guys,
>
> I hope you're all doing well.
>
> Not so long ago (or may be yes) I recall reading someone on this list 
> talking about an idea of using plastic pellets as closing valves for 
> an MDF vacuum table.
>
> The basic idea was: The pellet falls into a spherical hole that has a 
> round groove with a slight angle on its side. So when the vacuum is 
> not applied the plastic pellet can slide thru the groove and leave the 
> hole open (I imagine that the vacuum pump could be reversed so one can 
> blow to clear the holes and force the pellets to the groove quicker). 
> When there is a part over that hole and before the pump is on, the 
> vacuum will be immediately sealed by the part, not allowing the 
> suction to suck the pellet. Once the hole is again free, the suction 
> will slide the pellet until the hole is sealed (useful to avoid vacuum 
> loses on the path where the tool cuts the material).
>
> Are there any practical examples or any real life experience of this idea?
> That would be more than useful.
>
> Thanks as always!
>

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Re: [Emc-users] Camview - Was: connecting up glade files in axis

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 07 June 2021 10:06:11 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 14:54, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > Can you narrow it down to python-2 or python-3, 3.7 TBE for a buster
> > based install on wintel hdwe?  Or does apt have a utility to find
> > it?
>
> The first place I would look would be in camview.py
>
> But I have no idea where you got your camview from?
Well, in my efforts to find it, I probably fubared it.
I finally ended up installing both python-opencv and python-3-opencv, the 
even ran sudo python XamPY_setup.py again.

Now I get more verbosity but the same emd result:
===
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/gladevcp", line 50, in 
import gladevcp.makepins
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gladevcp/__init__.py", line 1, in 

from .hal_pythonplugin import *
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gladevcp/hal_pythonplugin.py", 
line 1, in 
from camview import CamView
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'camview'
===

So since I knew the cameera works with cheese on another identical 
machine, I installed cheese on this one which pulled in around 50 other 
dependencies, And it works with cheese.
===
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/gladevcp", line 50, in 
import gladevcp.makepins
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gladevcp/__init__.py", line 1, in 

from .hal_pythonplugin import *
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gladevcp/hal_pythonplugin.py", 
line 1, in 
from camview import CamView
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'camview'
===
Looks the same to me. ???

And linuxcnc -l runs.
Both python and python3 versions of opencv are installed, is this bad? Or 
should we fix the pythob-3 error somehow since python-2 is going away 
shortly? As in no more in bullseye.

This seems to be a really good camera, and I'd love to be able to use it 
with linuxcnc. Good definition, full color, spindle mounted, parallax & 
focus adjustable.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] Camview - Was: connecting up glade files in axis

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 14:54, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> Can you narrow it down to python-2 or python-3, 3.7 TBE for a buster
> based install on wintel hdwe?  Or does apt have a utility to find it?

The first place I would look would be in camview.py

But I have no idea where you got your camview from?

-- 
atp
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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
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Re: [Emc-users] HTML Help

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 07 June 2021 09:45:55 Scott Harwell via Emc-users wrote:

>  Gene,
> A screenshot from Sourceforge EMC users page. It shows 1 Saturday,
> nothing Sunday and 12 Monday. This looks eight with the time
> differences. Compared to 2020 we don't have near as much to say!
>
> Scott
>
But I was getting msgs from my isp that the message was delayed.

Delivery Status Notification (Delay)
 From: Postmaster 
 To: ghesk...@shentel.net
 
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

   emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net


Which I took to mean the listserver at sourceforge was there, but wasn't 
accepting msgs.  They were, in the first case, over 24 hours before I 
got the echo back from sourceforge. I normally get it back on the next 
fetchmail scan, at 2 minute intervals, or less since my setup treats 
outgooing and incoming as separate functions.  No synch between them.
 
>
> On Monday, June 7, 2021, 2:44:36 AM CDT, Gene Heskett
>  wrote:
>
>  On Monday 07 June 2021 00:23:41 Scott Harwell via Emc-users wrote:
> >  Gene,
> > Five today nothing Saturday.
> > Scott
>
> Same here, so I sent a PM to Seb, and it came back a few hours later.
>
> >    On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 9:00:33 PM CDT, Gene Heskett
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  On Monday 08 March 2021 12:08:42 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> >
> > The mailing lists seem to be down. I've made 3 posts in the last 24
> > hours, getting msg delayed info msgs from my isp's server, but no
> > echo's from the lists.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] HTML Help

[Scott Harwell via Emc-users]

 "This looks right". Damn spellcheck, I can screw up enough without help.

Scott


On Monday, June 7, 2021, 8:47:57 AM CDT, Scott Harwell via Emc-users 
 wrote:  
 
  Gene,
A screenshot from Sourceforge EMC users page. It shows 1 Saturday, nothing 
Sunday and 12 Monday. This looks eight with the time differences. Compared to 
2020 we don't have near as much to say!

Scott



    On Monday, June 7, 2021, 2:44:36 AM CDT, Gene Heskett 
 wrote:  
 
 On Monday 07 June 2021 00:23:41 Scott Harwell via Emc-users wrote:

>  Gene,
> Five today nothing Saturday.
> Scott
>
Same here, so I sent a PM to Seb, and it came back a few hours later.
>
>    On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 9:00:33 PM CDT, Gene Heskett
>  wrote:
>
>  On Monday 08 March 2021 12:08:42 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
>
> The mailing lists seem to be down. I've made 3 posts in the last 24
> hours, getting msg delayed info msgs from my isp's server, but no
> echo's from the lists.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] connecting up glade files in axis

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 07 June 2021 05:33:27 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 08:43, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > But I have no clue where gi.repository.Gtk is or where it fits into
> > this
>
> It's in one of the Python files, either in the GladeVCP base code or
> in a handler file.

Can you narrow it down to python-2 or python-3, 3.7 TBE for a buster 
based install on wintel hdwe?  Or does apt have a utility to find it?

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: [Emc-users] connecting up glade files in axis

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 05:35, andrew beck  wrote:
>
> Axis just chokes on the glade file.

Can you start LinuxCNC from the command line and paste the output here?

Which LinuxCNC branch?

-- 
atp
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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
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Re: [Emc-users] connecting up glade files in axis

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 08:43, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> But I have no clue where gi.repository.Gtk is or where it fits into this

It's in one of the Python files, either in the GladeVCP base code or
in a handler file.

-- 
atp
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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
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Re: [Emc-users] HTML Help

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 07 June 2021 00:23:41 Scott Harwell via Emc-users wrote:

>  Gene,
> Five today nothing Saturday.
> Scott
>
Same here, so I sent a PM to Seb, and it came back a few hours later.
>
> On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 9:00:33 PM CDT, Gene Heskett
>  wrote:
>
>  On Monday 08 March 2021 12:08:42 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
>
> The mailing lists seem to be down. I've made 3 posts in the last 24
> hours, getting msg delayed info msgs from my isp's server, but no
> echo's from the lists.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] connecting up glade files in axis

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 05 June 2021 05:22:37 andy pugh wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 at 02:39, andrew beck  wrote:
> > can anyone help with the syntax to get glade working with axis?  or
> > give me a working config that is working.
>
> What isn't working?
>
> Does gladevcp choke on the .glade part, or when it opens the file?
>
> I have a vague recollection that .ui and .glade map to different GTK
> versions, but I could be wrong.
>
> You could just try renaming the .glade file.

Here is the single error line:

 GLADE VCP ERROR:With xml file: camview.glade : 'gi.repository.Gtk' 
object has no attribute 'glade'

camview.glade was posted a couple msgs back. As can be seen here, I
tried renaming the interface, but that made even more errors. Here it
is again:




  
  
  
  
  
False

  
True
0
#
640
480
150
5
10
False

  

  




But I have no clue where gi.repository.Gtk is or where it fits into this 
from the .ini file in the display section:

EMBED_TAB_NAME = Camera
EMBED_TAB_COMMAND = gladevcp -x {XID} camview.glade

gene@sixty40:~$ cd linuxcnc/configs/6040-5i25-7i76-rs485/
gene@sixty40:~/linuxcnc/configs/6040-5i25-7i76-rs485$ less 
6040-5i25-7i76-rs485.ini
gene@sixty40:~/linuxcnc/configs/6040-5i25-7i76-rs485$ locate gi.repository.Gtk
gene@sixty40:~/linuxcnc/configs/6040-5i25-7i76-rs485$ sudo updatedb
[sudo] password for gene:
gene@sixty40:~/linuxcnc/configs/6040-5i25-7i76-rs485$ locate gi.repository.Gtk
gene@sixty40:~/linuxcnc/configs/6040-5i25-7i76-rs485$ 

So gi.repository.Gtk does not exist on that system.  Why?

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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