Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines
am I missing something, this is all documented on the forum, with a number of users using tormach with non tormach machines. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/pathpilot Mesa 7i92 will work just fine (I have had it running before) now I have seen the light, and just run linuxcnc with axis for mill, router and lathe, and qtplasmac for plasma. it just works. no it's not eye candy but life is about the taste of the coffee and not the shape or look of the mug / cup. I do use nativecam and also ngcgui again they just work. what benefit are you after using path pilot other than the gui appearance? a similar appearance can be done with using qtpyvcp and probe basic https://www.qtpyvcp.com/showcase/mill_vcps.html what do you think tormach is going to do better than linuxcnc? . other than the display interface? (I am genuinely curious what the benefit is) rob On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, 06:04 andrew beck, wrote: > Just a quick note. > > I think they run a standard mesa card. > > > > On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, 18:22 John Dammeyer, wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Ron Ginger [mailto:rongin...@roadrunner.com] > > > > > > I would like to try to run PathPilot on my own mill. I now run Mach4, > > > but I would like to see how well PathPilot works. > > > > > > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > > > interface board do I need? > > > > > > What is Tormachs position on this? I know they have to release the code > > > because it is based on open source, but do they oppose its use? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > ron ginger > > > > > > > Hi Ron, > > Long time. > > Have you asked Tormach what kind of interface board they use? I doubt > > it's a parallel port. > > > > My guess is if you use open source LCNC for your system. Spend the > > time/money to create a custom user interface for it but don't want > everyone > > using it you'd likely use a customized piece of hardware as the break out > > board. > > > > However, unlike MACH, the two important files in LCNC are the .INI and > > .HAL files. In the Tormach image those two will describe how they talk > to > > the machine hardware. > > > > For example I use a MESA 7i92H and for a while had dual boot for WIN-XP > > and LCNC to a PMDX-126 break out board. It's Ethernet to the MESA which > > emulates two parallel ports onto the PMDX. > > > > Here's how I documented (for my own needs) the first parallel port with > > the DB-25 pins cross referenced to the MESA pins. > > > > Looking forward to what you find out. > > John Dammeyer > > > > # external I/O signals > > # IO Connections for P2 MESA 7i92_PMDX126Ax2D.pin (modified from pin > file) > > # DBn.m_PMDX_Jn.m I/O Pri.func Sec. func Chan Pin func > > Pin DirSystem usage > > > > # P1.1_J6.2 0 IOPort None > > (Out) machine-is-enabled (output) > > # P1.14_J6.31 IOPort PWM 0PWM > >(Out) spindle-vel-cmd-rps PWM (output) > > # P1.2_J4.2 2 IOPort StepGen 0Step/Table1 > >(Out) x axis step pulse (output) > > # P1.15_J12.9 3 IOPort None > > (In) max-x-y-min-z (input) > > # P1.3_J4.3 4 IOPort StepGen 0Dir/Table2 > > (Out) x axis dir signal (output) > > # P1.16_J6.45 IOPort None > > (Out) spindle-ccw output (output) > > # P1.4_J3.2 6 IOPort StepGen 1Step/Table1 > >(Out) y axis step pulse (output) > > # P1.17_J6.57 IOPort StepGen 4Step/Table1 > >(Out) Charge Pump frequency (output) > > # P1.5_J3.3 8 IOPort StepGen 1Dir/Table2 > > (Out) y axis dir signal (output) > > # P1.6_J2.2 9 IOPort StepGen 2Step/Table1 > >(Out) z axis step pulse (output) > > # P1.7_J2.3 10 IOPort StepGen 2Dir/Table2 > > (Out) z axis dir signal (output) > > # P1.8_J1.2 11 IOPort StepGen 3Step/Table1 > >(Out) a axis step pulse (output) > > # P1.9_J1.2 12 IOPort StepGen 3Dir/Table2 > > (Out) a axis dir signal (output) > > # P1.10_J13.4 13 IOPort None > > (In) estop-external-in (input) > > # P1.11_J12.3 14 IOPort QCount 0Quad-A > > (In) min home-x (input) > > # P1.12_J12.5 15 IOPort QCount 0Quad-B > > (In) min home-y (input) > > # P1.13_J12.7 16 IOPort QCount 0Quad-IDX > > (in) max-home-z (input) > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >
Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines
Just a quick note. I think they run a standard mesa card. On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, 18:22 John Dammeyer, wrote: > -Original Message- > > From: Ron Ginger [mailto:rongin...@roadrunner.com] > > > > I would like to try to run PathPilot on my own mill. I now run Mach4, > > but I would like to see how well PathPilot works. > > > > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > > interface board do I need? > > > > What is Tormachs position on this? I know they have to release the code > > because it is based on open source, but do they oppose its use? > > > > thanks > > > > ron ginger > > > > Hi Ron, > Long time. > Have you asked Tormach what kind of interface board they use? I doubt > it's a parallel port. > > My guess is if you use open source LCNC for your system. Spend the > time/money to create a custom user interface for it but don't want everyone > using it you'd likely use a customized piece of hardware as the break out > board. > > However, unlike MACH, the two important files in LCNC are the .INI and > .HAL files. In the Tormach image those two will describe how they talk to > the machine hardware. > > For example I use a MESA 7i92H and for a while had dual boot for WIN-XP > and LCNC to a PMDX-126 break out board. It's Ethernet to the MESA which > emulates two parallel ports onto the PMDX. > > Here's how I documented (for my own needs) the first parallel port with > the DB-25 pins cross referenced to the MESA pins. > > Looking forward to what you find out. > John Dammeyer > > # external I/O signals > # IO Connections for P2 MESA 7i92_PMDX126Ax2D.pin (modified from pin file) > # DBn.m_PMDX_Jn.m I/O Pri.func Sec. func Chan Pin func > Pin DirSystem usage > > # P1.1_J6.2 0 IOPort None > (Out) machine-is-enabled (output) > # P1.14_J6.31 IOPort PWM 0PWM >(Out) spindle-vel-cmd-rps PWM (output) > # P1.2_J4.2 2 IOPort StepGen 0Step/Table1 >(Out) x axis step pulse (output) > # P1.15_J12.9 3 IOPort None > (In) max-x-y-min-z (input) > # P1.3_J4.3 4 IOPort StepGen 0Dir/Table2 > (Out) x axis dir signal (output) > # P1.16_J6.45 IOPort None > (Out) spindle-ccw output (output) > # P1.4_J3.2 6 IOPort StepGen 1Step/Table1 >(Out) y axis step pulse (output) > # P1.17_J6.57 IOPort StepGen 4Step/Table1 >(Out) Charge Pump frequency (output) > # P1.5_J3.3 8 IOPort StepGen 1Dir/Table2 > (Out) y axis dir signal (output) > # P1.6_J2.2 9 IOPort StepGen 2Step/Table1 >(Out) z axis step pulse (output) > # P1.7_J2.3 10 IOPort StepGen 2Dir/Table2 > (Out) z axis dir signal (output) > # P1.8_J1.2 11 IOPort StepGen 3Step/Table1 >(Out) a axis step pulse (output) > # P1.9_J1.2 12 IOPort StepGen 3Dir/Table2 > (Out) a axis dir signal (output) > # P1.10_J13.4 13 IOPort None > (In) estop-external-in (input) > # P1.11_J12.3 14 IOPort QCount 0Quad-A > (In) min home-x (input) > # P1.12_J12.5 15 IOPort QCount 0Quad-B > (In) min home-y (input) > # P1.13_J12.7 16 IOPort QCount 0Quad-IDX > (in) max-home-z (input) > > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines
-Original Message- > From: Ron Ginger [mailto:rongin...@roadrunner.com] > > I would like to try to run PathPilot on my own mill. I now run Mach4, > but I would like to see how well PathPilot works. > > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > interface board do I need? > > What is Tormachs position on this? I know they have to release the code > because it is based on open source, but do they oppose its use? > > thanks > > ron ginger > Hi Ron, Long time. Have you asked Tormach what kind of interface board they use? I doubt it's a parallel port. My guess is if you use open source LCNC for your system. Spend the time/money to create a custom user interface for it but don't want everyone using it you'd likely use a customized piece of hardware as the break out board. However, unlike MACH, the two important files in LCNC are the .INI and .HAL files. In the Tormach image those two will describe how they talk to the machine hardware. For example I use a MESA 7i92H and for a while had dual boot for WIN-XP and LCNC to a PMDX-126 break out board. It's Ethernet to the MESA which emulates two parallel ports onto the PMDX. Here's how I documented (for my own needs) the first parallel port with the DB-25 pins cross referenced to the MESA pins. Looking forward to what you find out. John Dammeyer # external I/O signals # IO Connections for P2 MESA 7i92_PMDX126Ax2D.pin (modified from pin file) # DBn.m_PMDX_Jn.m I/O Pri.func Sec. func Chan Pin func Pin DirSystem usage # P1.1_J6.2 0 IOPort None (Out) machine-is-enabled (output) # P1.14_J6.31 IOPort PWM 0PWM (Out) spindle-vel-cmd-rps PWM (output) # P1.2_J4.2 2 IOPort StepGen 0Step/Table1 (Out) x axis step pulse (output) # P1.15_J12.9 3 IOPort None (In) max-x-y-min-z (input) # P1.3_J4.3 4 IOPort StepGen 0Dir/Table2 (Out) x axis dir signal (output) # P1.16_J6.45 IOPort None (Out) spindle-ccw output (output) # P1.4_J3.2 6 IOPort StepGen 1Step/Table1 (Out) y axis step pulse (output) # P1.17_J6.57 IOPort StepGen 4Step/Table1 (Out) Charge Pump frequency (output) # P1.5_J3.3 8 IOPort StepGen 1Dir/Table2 (Out) y axis dir signal (output) # P1.6_J2.2 9 IOPort StepGen 2Step/Table1 (Out) z axis step pulse (output) # P1.7_J2.3 10 IOPort StepGen 2Dir/Table2 (Out) z axis dir signal (output) # P1.8_J1.2 11 IOPort StepGen 3Step/Table1 (Out) a axis step pulse (output) # P1.9_J1.2 12 IOPort StepGen 3Dir/Table2 (Out) a axis dir signal (output) # P1.10_J13.4 13 IOPort None (In) estop-external-in (input) # P1.11_J12.3 14 IOPort QCount 0Quad-A (In) min home-x (input) # P1.12_J12.5 15 IOPort QCount 0Quad-B (In) min home-y (input) # P1.13_J12.7 16 IOPort QCount 0Quad-IDX (in) max-home-z (input) ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:23 PM Ron Ginger wrote: > > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > interface board do I need? > I doubt Pathpilot talks directly to any interface board. It is a user interface and likely generates g-code. Why not try it and tell us what happens? -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] awesome touch screen calibration help from Kurt
hey guys wants to calibrate a touch screen and is missing this info i wanted to post it on the user list i have a older elo touch screen and gave up calibrating it and getting it to work. it responded to touch but didn't follow the touch points. then saw this post from kurt (one of the developers) which solved my issue in 10 minutes! https://gist.github.com/KurtJacobson/37288a0300a9c1b3e859c8dcff403300 it was very helpful so thanks kurt and hopefully this helps someone also ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] I: Linuxcnc debs for RPi4
On 1/23/23 08:23, ERNESTO LO VALVO wrote: For armhf http://linuxcnc.org/dists/bullseye/2.9-rtpreempt/binary-armhf/ For arm64 http://linuxcnc.org/dists/bullseye/2.9-rtpreempt/binary-arm64/ Something's wrong there - those debs have suspicious-looking version numbers, and the directories are lacking all debian package metadata. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] I: Linuxcnc debs for RPi4
Da: ERNESTO LO VALVO Inviato: lunedì 23 gennaio 2023 16:18 A: Alan Condit Oggetto: R: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc debs for RPi4 For armhf http://linuxcnc.org/dists/bullseye/2.9-rtpreempt/binary-armhf/ For arm64 http://linuxcnc.org/dists/bullseye/2.9-rtpreempt/binary-arm64/ Da: Alan Condit Inviato: domenica 22 gennaio 2023 20:30 A: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Oggetto: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc debs for RPi4 Does any one have debs for installing linuxcnc for Raspberry Pi4 on Debian Bullseye? Alan ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc debs for RPi4
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 at 20:00, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > On 1/22/23 12:30, Alan Condit wrote: > > Does any one have debs for installing linuxcnc for Raspberry Pi4 on Debian > > Bullseye? > > We don't currently build that platform. However, there are some packages built by a user/developer here: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/47860-locations-of-linuxcnc#261251 -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 02:23, Ron Ginger wrote: > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > interface board do I need? I think that smgvbest on the forum is the expert on this. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fwd: Linuxcnc debs for RPi4
Thanks, Ernesto -- Forwarded message - From: Alan Condit Date: Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc debs for RPi4 To: ERNESTO LO VALVO Thanks, I'll check them out. I had just found the arm64 Bullseye linuxcnc dist. I must have asked the question wrong :-). I played hobb trying to get one of the PCs to compile LinuxCNC 2.9 but I finally succeeded. So I was hoping that I could avoid having to compile 2.9 on my RPi4. Although I have done it several times including building a preemptRT kernel. I have three machines running Linuxcnc and two RPi4s running Linuxcnc and two PCs running Linuxcnc. I have been trying to get them all running Debian Bullseye so that it is less confusing to me when I switch from one to another. I really didn’t want to run Bookworm at the moment. I am tired of bleeding edge. I think I damaged the parallel port on one of my PCs. I know I burnt out the BOB but I replaced the BOB but it is still having issues. So I am planning to replace it with the 2nd RPi4 with a 7C81. The other RPi4 is running a 7i76E. Thanks, Ernesto. On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 9:18 AM ERNESTO LO VALVO wrote: > > For armhf > http://linuxcnc.org/dists/bullseye/2.9-rtpreempt/binary-armhf/ > > For arm64 > http://linuxcnc.org/dists/bullseye/2.9-rtpreempt/binary-arm64/ > > -- > *Da:* Alan Condit > *Inviato:* domenica 22 gennaio 2023 20:30 > *A:* Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > *Oggetto:* [Emc-users] Linuxcnc debs for RPi4 > > Does any one have debs for installing linuxcnc for Raspberry Pi4 on Debian > Bullseye? > Alan > > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
