Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread gene heskett 

On 5/8/24 13:44, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:

Gene,

Tell me more about this udev bug.

I'm not so sure this system even has it.  If I check the directory  
/dev/serial/by-id is there and has one device in it, and it looks like it is 
most likely my device.  If my system was affected bu this bug would the by-id 
directory not be there, or would it not have any devices in it, or would the 
device just not work?

I've a usb tree resembling a weeping willow, over a dozen usb cables 
plugged into at least three 4-port expanders, one of which is a 7 port 
and its full, so my output from that command shows 2 devices. One is 
driving an X10 CM11a to control some lights. And I don't recall what the 
other is doing. The x10 stuff has only been running about 35 years. I'm 
one of the two authors of the Amiga's ezhome software for x19 stuff. 
I've long since forgot the nitty and gritty details of what all I had it 
doing.


Whatever you have that did use the /dev/serial/by-id stuff would not be 
working if the bug is present. Buster is ok, bullseye and bookworm will 
fail and the final trixie is supposed to be fixed.  Your stuff is 
probably too old to be effected.


Take care & stay well Todd.


Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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On 5/8/24 08:13, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:

No, they are not.  The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04.  (Because that was the 
last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it's ISA IO card.) 
The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian net install 
iso).

The groups the user belongs to  on the PC are "adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin, admin, 
and sambashare".  The groups for the new PC are "cdrom, floppy, sudo, audio, dip, video, 
plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and scanner"

So, I'm not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that "dialout" might be the most 
logical possible permission deficiency, but I'm not sure if "dip" might be an equivalent 
replacement for that.


Your debian 12 install has the udev bug I sent you a link to the fix already.  
It restores the missing two lines that setup the serial/by-id stuff for usb.


Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn
Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
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It was already set to 3.

What is your MB2HAL load line?
What does lsusb call  the dongle?

Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?

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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
Like I said earlier, I added the user to the dialout group (using that usermod 
command below) and that fixed my issue.

My system does not show /dev/ttyUSB0 as locked  (I can't say for sure if that 
was the case before I added dialout to the user's groups.

"stat /dev/ttyUSB0"  does contain  Gid: ( 20/ dialout)

Todd Zuercher
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Dalton, Ohio 44618
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Bookworm has /dev/ttyUSB "locked"
File icon has red cross

stat /dev/ttyUSB0

Check if it contain:

Gid: ( 20/ dialout)

Then:

sudo usermod -a -G dialout $USER

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Od: Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
Datum: 08.05.2024 19:27:15
Předmět: Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

Thanks Gene,

I'm not sure that, bug is completely relevant to my issue. As my Mb2hal config 
never used serial/by-id. It has always used /dev/ttyUSB0 to address the RS485 
device. Maybe serial by id might be a better way to address the specific serial 
port used, but I am not even sure if it is even be supported by Mb2hal or 
exactly how to set it up that way (none of the example Mb2hal configurations 
use it.) And even if it were possible, I'm not sure if I still would have had 
the permission problems and I would have also had to fix the udev bug first. 
Changing the permission is all I needed to do to get this working as it was 
before.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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On 5/8/24 08:13, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:
> No, they are not. The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04. (Because that
> was
the last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it's ISA IO
card.) The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian net 
install iso).
>
> The groups the user belongs to on the PC are "adm, dialout, cdrom,
plugdev, lpadmin, admin, and sambashare". The groups for the new PC are "cdrom, 
floppy, sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and scanner"
>
> So, I'm not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that "dialout"
> might
be the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I'm not sure if "dip" 
might be an equivalent replacement for that.
>
Your debian 12 install has the udev bug I sent you a link to the fix already. 
It restores the missing two lines that setup the serial/by-id stuff for usb.

> Todd Zuercher
> P. Graham Dunn
> Inc.>
> http://www.p/
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> 630 Henry Street
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> Cc: Todd Zuercher
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> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users > wrote:
> It was already set to 3.
>
> What is your MB2HAL load line?
> What does lsusb call the dongle?
>
> Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?
>
> --
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> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed
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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread zz912 
Bookworm has /dev/ttyUSB "locked"
File icon has red cross

stat /dev/ttyUSB0

Check if it contain:

Gid: ( 20/ dialout)

Then:

sudo usermod -a -G dialout $USER

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Od: Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
Datum: 08.05.2024 19:27:15
Předmět: Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

Thanks Gene, 

I'm not sure that, bug is completely relevant to my issue. As my Mb2hal 
config never used serial/by-id. It has always used /dev/ttyUSB0 to address 
the RS485 device. Maybe serial by id might be a better way to address the 
specific serial port used, but I am not even sure if it is even be supported
by Mb2hal or exactly how to set it up that way (none of the example Mb2hal 
configurations use it.) And even if it were possible, I'm not sure if I 
still would have had the permission problems and I would have also had to 
fix the udev bug first. Changing the permission is all I needed to do to get
this working as it was before. 

Todd Zuercher 
P. Graham Dunn Inc. 
630 Henry Street 
Dalton, Ohio 44618 
Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 

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On 5/8/24 08:13, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: 
> No, they are not. The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04. (Because that was 
the last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it's ISA IO 
card.) The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian 
net install iso). 
> 
> The groups the user belongs to on the PC are "adm, dialout, cdrom, 
plugdev, lpadmin, admin, and sambashare". The groups for the new PC are 
"cdrom, floppy, sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, 
and scanner" 
> 
> So, I'm not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that "dialout" might 
be the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I'm not sure if 
"dip" might be an equivalent replacement for that. 
> 
Your debian 12 install has the udev bug I sent you a link to the fix 
already. It restores the missing two lines that setup the serial/by-id stuff
for usb. 

> Todd Zuercher 
> P. Graham Dunn 
> Inc.> http://www.pgrahamdunn.com/%2Findex.php=05%7C02%7Ctoddz%40
pgrahamdunn.com 
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2024 4:18 AM 
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> 
> Cc: Todd Zuercher 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9? 
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> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. 
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> 
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users > wrote: 
> It was already set to 3. 
> 
> What is your MB2HAL load line? 
> What does lsusb call the dongle? 
> 
> Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux? 
> 
> -- 
> atp 
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed 
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." 
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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
Gene,

Tell me more about this udev bug.

I'm not so sure this system even has it.  If I check the directory  
/dev/serial/by-id is there and has one device in it, and it looks like it is 
most likely my device.  If my system was affected bu this bug would the by-id 
directory not be there, or would it not have any devices in it, or would the 
device just not work?

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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On 5/8/24 08:13, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:
> No, they are not.  The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04.  (Because that was 
> the last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it's ISA IO 
> card.) The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian 
> net install iso).
>
> The groups the user belongs to  on the PC are "adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, 
> lpadmin, admin, and sambashare".  The groups for the new PC are "cdrom, 
> floppy, sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and scanner"
>
> So, I'm not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that "dialout" might be 
> the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I'm not sure if "dip" 
> might be an equivalent replacement for that.
>
Your debian 12 install has the udev bug I sent you a link to the fix already.  
It restores the missing two lines that setup the serial/by-id stuff for usb.

> Todd Zuercher
> P. Graham Dunn
> Inc. http://www.pgrahamdunn.com/%2Findex.php=05%7C02%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com
> %7Cf9247dc4415e4c243c9a08dc6f7b57d0%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43
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> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
> mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
> wrote:
> It was already set to 3.
>
> What is your MB2HAL load line?
> What does lsusb call  the dongle?
>
> Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?
>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for 
> the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
Thanks Gene,

I'm not sure that, bug is completely relevant to my issue.  As my Mb2hal config 
never used serial/by-id.  It has always used  /dev/ttyUSB0 to address the RS485 
device.  Maybe serial by id might be a better way to address the specific 
serial port used, but I am not even sure if it is even be supported by Mb2hal 
or exactly how to set it up that way (none of the example Mb2hal configurations 
use it.)  And even if it were possible, I'm not sure if I still would have had 
the permission problems and I would have also had to fix the udev bug first.  
Changing the permission is all I needed to do to get this working as it was 
before.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-Original Message-
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To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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On 5/8/24 08:13, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:
> No, they are not.  The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04.  (Because that was 
> the last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it's ISA IO 
> card.) The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian 
> net install iso).
>
> The groups the user belongs to  on the PC are "adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, 
> lpadmin, admin, and sambashare".  The groups for the new PC are "cdrom, 
> floppy, sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and scanner"
>
> So, I'm not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that "dialout" might be 
> the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I'm not sure if "dip" 
> might be an equivalent replacement for that.
>
Your debian 12 install has the udev bug I sent you a link to the fix already.  
It restores the missing two lines that setup the serial/by-id stuff for usb.

> Todd Zuercher
> P. Graham Dunn
> Inc. http://www.pgrahamdunn.com/%2Findex.php=05%7C02%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com
> %7Cf9247dc4415e4c243c9a08dc6f7b57d0%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43
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> 630 Henry Street
> Dalton, Ohio 44618
> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>
> From: andy pugh 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2024 4:18 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> 
> Cc: Todd Zuercher 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?
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>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
> mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
> wrote:
> It was already set to 3.
>
> What is your MB2HAL load line?
> What does lsusb call  the dongle?
>
> Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?
>
> --
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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread gene heskett 

On 5/8/24 08:13, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:

No, they are not.  The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04.  (Because that was the 
last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it’s ISA IO card.) 
The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian net install 
iso).

The groups the user belongs to  on the PC are “adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, 
lpadmin, admin, and sambashare”.  The groups for the new PC are “cdrom, floppy, 
sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and scanner”

So, I’m not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that “dialout” might be 
the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I’m not sure if “dip” 
might be an equivalent replacement for that.

Your debian 12 install has the udev bug I sent you a link to the fix 
already.  It restores the missing two lines that setup the serial/by-id 
stuff for usb.



Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
It was already set to 3.

What is your MB2HAL load line?
What does lsusb call  the dongle?

Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?

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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
Yes, it was a permission issue.  After I added the user to the "dialout" group 
it worked fine.  Thanks Peter for putting me on the right track.

That might be something that should be added to the Mb2hal documentation.  (If 
there isn't something about it already there.)

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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No, they are not.  The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04.  (Because that was the 
last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it's ISA IO card.) 
The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian net install 
iso).

The groups the user belongs to  on the old PC are "adm, dialout, cdrom, 
plugdev, lpadmin, admin, and sambashare".  The groups for the new PC are 
"cdrom, floppy, sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and 
scanner"

So, I'm not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that "dialout" might be 
the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I'm not sure if "dip" 
might be an equivalent replacement for that.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

From: andy pugh 
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2024 4:18 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
Cc: Todd Zuercher 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?


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On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
It was already set to 3.

What is your MB2HAL load line?
What does lsusb call  the dongle?

Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?

--
atp
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the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
- George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
No, they are not.  The old pc was running Ubuntu 10.04.  (Because that was the 
last Linuxcnc distro that seemed work with this old pc and it’s ISA IO card.) 
The new PC is running Debian 12 (installed using an ordinary Debian net install 
iso).

The groups the user belongs to  on the PC are “adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, 
lpadmin, admin, and sambashare”.  The groups for the new PC are “cdrom, floppy, 
sudo, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, and scanner”

So, I’m not sure, to my unskilled eye, it would seem that “dialout” might be 
the most logical possible permission deficiency, but I’m not sure if “dip” 
might be an equivalent replacement for that.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

From: andy pugh 
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2024 4:18 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
Cc: Todd Zuercher 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?


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On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users 
mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
It was already set to 3.

What is your MB2HAL load line?
What does lsusb call  the dongle?

Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?

--
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for 
the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal 2.9?

2024-05-08 Thread andy pugh 
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 02:15, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> It was already set to 3.


What is your MB2HAL load line?
What does lsusb call  the dongle?

Are the two PCs in question running the same version of Linux?

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

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