Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
Jepler sorted out that if you have 4Gb of memory and your connected to the internet then ubuntu kindly unloads the real time kernel and subs for a better one. I verified this a few times. 3.2Gb does not have this same problem. I posted the logs yesterday to linuxcnc-dev. On another note what prompted me to reinstall LinuxCNC on my plasma was I thought I broke it somehow trying to fix the psychedelic colors in gedit for a ngc file when calling a subroutine file with my pyvcp button gave me an error of File not open... which made no sense till I kept trying different things on 3 different machines (after finally getting LinuxCNC installed) until I came to realize what the cryptic error meant. Somewhere there is a check to see if a file is loaded before a subroutine is run and if you don't have a file loaded and it can be a file with just M2 trying to call a sub from MDI fails as well as having a halui mdi entry in your ini file. This was quite difficult to track down as I don't load a splash file in the INI. John On 6/13/2012 6:23 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:37:31AM -0500, John Thornton wrote: After installing there was no CNC menu and LinuxCNC was not installed I've seen this reported before and always followed by a big chorus of works for me! I think something really must be going on. If I had to guess (and I do, as I have no data) I'd suspect that something different happens when the installer finds an internet connection vs. when it doesn't. Perhaps apt is nuking linuxcnc because a dependency is not met. You should have a dpkg/apt log available after the install, and it may contain the smoking gun. Please let us know what you find. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
So the solution is to leave your networking unconnected until after the install is complete? Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Jepler sorted out that if you have 4Gb of memory and your connected to the internet then ubuntu kindly unloads the real time kernel and subs for a better one. I verified this a few times. 3.2Gb does not have this same problem. I posted the logs yesterday to linuxcnc-dev. On another note what prompted me to reinstall LinuxCNC on my plasma was I thought I broke it somehow trying to fix the psychedelic colors in gedit for a ngc file when calling a subroutine file with my pyvcp button gave me an error of File not open... which made no sense till I kept trying different things on 3 different machines (after finally getting LinuxCNC installed) until I came to realize what the cryptic error meant. Somewhere there is a check to see if a file is loaded before a subroutine is run and if you don't have a file loaded and it can be a file with just M2 trying to call a sub from MDI fails as well as having a halui mdi entry in your ini file. This was quite difficult to track down as I don't load a splash file in the INI. John On 6/13/2012 6:23 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:37:31AM -0500, John Thornton wrote: After installing there was no CNC menu and LinuxCNC was not installed I've seen this reported before and always followed by a big chorus of works for me! I think something really must be going on. If I had to guess (and I do, as I have no data) I'd suspect that something different happens when the installer finds an internet connection vs. when it doesn't. Perhaps apt is nuking linuxcnc because a dependency is not met. You should have a dpkg/apt log available after the install, and it may contain the smoking gun. Please let us know what you find. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
I don't know if that is the ultimate solution but it does work and so does popping out one memory chip from the 525. I think I heard something about there might be a fix for this but that got lost in the haze while I was searching out the solution to problem 1 which started this whole mess for me. John On 6/14/2012 5:45 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: So the solution is to leave your networking unconnected until after the install is complete? Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: Jepler sorted out that if you have 4Gb of memory and your connected to the internet then ubuntu kindly unloads the real time kernel and subs for a better one. I verified this a few times. 3.2Gb does not have this same problem. I posted the logs yesterday to linuxcnc-dev. On another note what prompted me to reinstall LinuxCNC on my plasma was I thought I broke it somehow trying to fix the psychedelic colors in gedit for a ngc file when calling a subroutine file with my pyvcp button gave me an error of File not open... which made no sense till I kept trying different things on 3 different machines (after finally getting LinuxCNC installed) until I came to realize what the cryptic error meant. Somewhere there is a check to see if a file is loaded before a subroutine is run and if you don't have a file loaded and it can be a file with just M2 trying to call a sub from MDI fails as well as having a halui mdi entry in your ini file. This was quite difficult to track down as I don't load a splash file in the INI. John On 6/13/2012 6:23 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:37:31AM -0500, John Thornton wrote: After installing there was no CNC menu and LinuxCNC was not installed I've seen this reported before and always followed by a big chorus of works for me! I think something really must be going on. If I had to guess (and I do, as I have no data) I'd suspect that something different happens when the installer finds an internet connection vs. when it doesn't. Perhaps apt is nuking linuxcnc because a dependency is not met. You should have a dpkg/apt log available after the install, and it may contain the smoking gun. Please let us know what you find. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
2012/6/14 John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com: I don't know if that is the ultimate solution but it does work and so does popping out one memory chip from the 525. John, can You explain, why do You use so much of RAM? I put 2 GB in my machines only because I do not have swap partition on SSDs. AFAIK LinuxCNC is happy with 1 GB, so I have another GB just in case. I had Lucid on my parent's PC with 512 MB RAM. It used to freeze up from time to time. Took me a while to realize to look at the usage of RAM and then I realized that I forgot to create swap partition during install (that pc has traditional hdd). -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
Much easier to pull the network cable than pull a memory chip. ;-) Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:00 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that is the ultimate solution but it does work and so does popping out one memory chip from the 525. I think I heard something about there might be a fix for this but that got lost in the haze while I was searching out the solution to problem 1 which started this whole mess for me. John On 6/14/2012 5:45 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: So the solution is to leave your networking unconnected until after the install is complete? Mark -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/6/14 John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com: I don't know if that is the ultimate solution but it does work and so does popping out one memory chip from the 525. John, can You explain, why do You use so much of RAM? I put 2 GB in my machines only because I do not have swap partition on SSDs. AFAIK LinuxCNC is happy with 1 GB, so I have another GB just in case. I had Lucid on my parent's PC with 512 MB RAM. It used to freeze up from time to time. Took me a while to realize to look at the usage of RAM and then I realized that I forgot to create swap partition during install (that pc has traditional hdd). -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto RAM is cheap, and you really can't have too much memory. Well, except in odd ball cases like John's where Ubuntu does funky things. I'd rather have too much than not enough memory. You can also use RAM as a fast file system, though it's volatile so I wouldn't want to try and save anything there. Mark -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
Because there are two slots and that is how much ram that fits is the only reason that I have... no logical reason at all. Like Tom said on the IRC yesterday it's the max. John On 6/14/2012 6:20 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/6/14 John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com: I don't know if that is the ultimate solution but it does work and so does popping out one memory chip from the 525. John, can You explain, why do You use so much of RAM? I put 2 GB in my machines only because I do not have swap partition on SSDs. AFAIK LinuxCNC is happy with 1 GB, so I have another GB just in case. I had Lucid on my parent's PC with 512 MB RAM. It used to freeze up from time to time. Took me a while to realize to look at the usage of RAM and then I realized that I forgot to create swap partition during install (that pc has traditional hdd). -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
Yes, but I was willing to go the extra mile for testing purposes after a day and a half of pulling out my hair. John On 6/14/2012 6:23 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Much easier to pull the network cable than pull a memory chip. ;-) Mark On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:00 AM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that is the ultimate solution but it does work and so does popping out one memory chip from the 525. I think I heard something about there might be a fix for this but that got lost in the haze while I was searching out the solution to problem 1 which started this whole mess for me. John On 6/14/2012 5:45 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: So the solution is to leave your networking unconnected until after the install is complete? Mark -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
I 2012/6/14 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: RAM is cheap, and you really can't have too much memory. Well, except in odd ball cases like John's where Ubuntu does funky things. Well, since 32-bit system does not use much more than 2,8-3,2 GB of RAM, I do not see point to put 4 GB in there. I would not be surprised finding out that it is to do with the installer's wish to change the kernel - if it sees that current one will not handle that much of RAM or something like that... I'd rather have too much than not enough memory. You can also use RAM as a fast file system, though it's volatile so I wouldn't want to try and save anything there. Yes, on my machines with SSDs one of the steps I am doing basically what is suggested in install to compactflash wiki page - move /tmp to RAM by creating a RAM-drive or something like that. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote: I 2012/6/14 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: RAM is cheap, and you really can't have too much memory. Well, except in odd ball cases like John's where Ubuntu does funky things. Well, since 32-bit system does not use much more than 2,8-3,2 GB of RAM, I do not see point to put 4 GB in there. I would not be surprised finding out that it is to do with the installer's wish to change the kernel - if it sees that current one will not handle that much of RAM or something like that... True, but who's to say that LinuxCNC won't eventually be supported on the 64 bit OS? Eventually, you won't be able to buy a 32 bit machine except from the antique store. I'd rather have too much than not enough memory. You can also use RAM as a fast file system, though it's volatile so I wouldn't want to try and save anything there. Yes, on my machines with SSDs one of the steps I am doing basically what is suggested in install to compactflash wiki page - move /tmp to RAM by creating a RAM-drive or something like that. /tmp is already in RAM when your system is created. There's also a /var/tmp too. -- Viesturs Cheers, Mark -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
IIRC, the ram choices were pretty limited on the 525 to 2 or 4Gb... so to get 3.2 I had to pick 4... sounds plausible anyway, but I doubt that it happened that way. John On 6/14/2012 6:37 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: I 2012/6/14 Mark Wendtwendt.m...@gmail.com: RAM is cheap, and you really can't have too much memory. Well, except in odd ball cases like John's where Ubuntu does funky things. Well, since 32-bit system does not use much more than 2,8-3,2 GB of RAM, I do not see point to put 4 GB in there. I would not be surprised finding out that it is to do with the installer's wish to change the kernel - if it sees that current one will not handle that much of RAM or something like that... I'd rather have too much than not enough memory. You can also use RAM as a fast file system, though it's volatile so I wouldn't want to try and save anything there. Yes, on my machines with SSDs one of the steps I am doing basically what is suggested in install to compactflash wiki page - move /tmp to RAM by creating a RAM-drive or something like that. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
2012/6/14 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: True, but who's to say that LinuxCNC won't eventually be supported on the 64 bit OS? Eventually, you won't be able to buy a 32 bit machine except from the antique store. At least for PCs I think there is no way to get 32bit-only capable system. All the new CPUs are 64 bit and they are backwards compatible with 32 bit, so I am sure that this backwards compatibility will remain, so 32 bit OSes will be there as long as anyone will maintain them. /tmp is already in RAM when your system is created. There's also a /var/tmp too. Not really. This the first point in my optimize-for-SSD list: 1. Keep temporary data in RAM # Edit your /etc/fstab file. Add the following lines. tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 AFAIK Lucid does not do that by default -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
Hi John Can you check your /var/log/installer directory This sounds very similar to this thread I was involved with http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=viewcatid=9id=20126 The problem was that ubiquity was re-instating the stock kernel part way through the process and this caused the rtai kernel and all packages that depended upon it (linuxcnc) to be removed. The solution was bizarre but it worked. regards -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On 14 June 2012 00:23, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:37:31AM -0500, John Thornton wrote: If I had to guess (and I do, as I have no data) I'd suspect that something different happens when the installer finds an internet connection vs. when it doesn't. Good guess, and close. What it seems to be is that if you have an internet connection _and_ more than 3.2GB or RAM then the LiveCD chooses a better kernel for you. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
So while trying to fix the eye killing psychedelic highlighting in gedit for a ngc file I somehow broke LinuxCNC and it would not execute a named or numbered subroutine from the mdi anymore and would give me a File not open error when I tried to execute a subroutine so I gave up and grabbed what I thought was the last LiveCD that I had burned and iirc the one that I used on the BP to install LinuxCNC. After installing there was no CNC menu and LinuxCNC was not installed so I assumed I had the wrong disk and went and found another disk and got the same result. One of the two was ubuntu only for sure... so I said screw this and I'll just download the LiveCD again and burn a new disk on my winblows desktop. Next install still no CNC. So I downloaded it again on the ubuntu machine and burned another LiveCD. When I selected just try it or what ever it is the CNC menu showed up so I assumed all was well so I installed it and bam no LinuxCNC. MB 525, was running 2.5 from buildbot... Any clues? John -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On 13 June 2012 12:37, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: So while trying to fix the eye killing psychedelic highlighting in gedit No clue on the LiveCD issue, but I found that this highlighting file was better: http://cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=80 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
Andy, Thanks for the link, I can't wait to try Nick's highlighting out as soon as I can get LinuxCNC to install... what was the result of your tests last night? I know Tom_itx had the same problem that I did and gave up and used the install script. John On 6/13/2012 6:44 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 13 June 2012 12:37, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: So while trying to fix the eye killing psychedelic highlighting in gedit No clue on the LiveCD issue, but I found that this highlighting file was better: http://cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=80 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
I just tried to install the LiveCD again after last night leaving me at the maroon screen of death and the only thing that got installed from LinuxCNC was the docs in english and truetypetracer... John On 6/13/2012 6:44 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 13 June 2012 12:37, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: So while trying to fix the eye killing psychedelic highlighting in gedit No clue on the LiveCD issue, but I found that this highlighting file was better: http://cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=80 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 09:40:13 AM andy pugh did opine: On 13 June 2012 12:37, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: So while trying to fix the eye killing psychedelic highlighting in gedit I can't see the blues very well on the monitor I use on the lathe, so I've been using vim in straight black and white. But for GCode, I would also like to use Gedit. I'll give this one a shot later today. No clue on the LiveCD issue, but I found that this highlighting file was better: http://cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=80 Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene Money will say more in one moment than the most eloquent lover can in years. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On 13 Jun 2012, at 12:55, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: what was the result of your tests last night? It just worked, no problems and a working LinuxCNC install. The difference might be that I have always been installing to a new blank drive (real or VM) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
I'm just going out to the shop with a new LiveCD burned at 1x and will boot on it then delete the existing partition and format the hard drive then try to install John On 6/13/2012 8:54 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 13 Jun 2012, at 12:55, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: what was the result of your tests last night? It just worked, no problems and a working LinuxCNC install. The difference might be that I have always been installing to a new blank drive (real or VM) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:26:21 AM John Thornton did opine: Gene, The offending file is usr/share/gtksourceview-2.0/language-specs/ngc.lang AFAIK if you just delete it you will get normal black and white which is less annoying than rainbow random colors from the current one. Anyway deleting it worked for me. http://imagebin.org/216231 Yikes, that's even worse than I recalled. What ever the author of that was smoking, I don't think I want ANY of it. The only thing correct is the comments when surrounded by ( ) John On 6/13/2012 8:43 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 09:40:13 AM andy pugh did opine: On 13 June 2012 12:37, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: So while trying to fix the eye killing psychedelic highlighting in gedit I can't see the blues very well on the monitor I use on the lathe, so I've been using vim in straight black and white. But for GCode, I would also like to use Gedit. I'll give this one a shot later today. No clue on the LiveCD issue, but I found that this highlighting file was better: http://cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=80 Cheers, Gene -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene Since a politician never believes what he says, he is surprised when others believe him. -- Charles DeGaulle -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
Am 13.06.2012 um 13:37 schrieb John Thornton: or numbered subroutine from the mdi anymore and would give me a File not open error when I tried to execute a subroutine so I gave up and I remember seeing this when the OPEN_FILES= statement in the ini file didnt point to a valid file. - Michael -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
2012/6/13 John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com: I'm just going out to the shop with a new LiveCD burned at 1x IIRC You have D525. Any particular reason not to boot/instal from usb drive instead of using more and more cd/dvd matrices? Usb has always worked like a charm for me with all my D510/D525 installs. But I have had issues with booting from CD, although the same iso image has been used for both. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
OPEN_FILES = was the ini setting However it worked up to the point that I tried to edit ngc.lang to fix the highlighting John On 6/13/2012 10:42 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 13.06.2012 um 13:37 schrieb John Thornton: or numbered subroutine from the mdi anymore and would give me a File not open error when I tried to execute a subroutine so I gave up and I remember seeing this when the OPEN_FILES= statement in the ini file didnt point to a valid file. - Michael -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:37:31AM -0500, John Thornton wrote: After installing there was no CNC menu and LinuxCNC was not installed I've seen this reported before and always followed by a big chorus of works for me! I think something really must be going on. If I had to guess (and I do, as I have no data) I'd suspect that something different happens when the installer finds an internet connection vs. when it doesn't. Perhaps apt is nuking linuxcnc because a dependency is not met. You should have a dpkg/apt log available after the install, and it may contain the smoking gun. Please let us know what you find. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Fails to install LinuxCNC
On 14 June 2012 00:45, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: the LiveCD chooses a better kernel for you. I should point out that I am owed no credit for spotting this, I am just reporting it. It was, not unexpectedly, Jepler who worked it out. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On 02/12/2012 11:36 AM, Tom Easterday wrote: On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a Install the config file on a USB key? And, it is easy to create a bootable usb flashdrive for Linuxcnc LiveCD using usb-creator: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Live_USB_creator ...mainly posting this because it took me a while to find this tool Tom The tool is now called usb-creator-gtk or usb-creator-kde on Ubuntu 11.10. Mark -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On 02/12/2012 02:48 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Greg Bernard wrote: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:41:07 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Bernardyankeelena2...@yahoo.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Tom's instructions are correct but remember that the EMC version of Ubuntu only does a shutdown of the OS. You will have to turn the computer off manually. That may be a version dependent issue. It turns off power on my 10.04/LinuxCNC 2.46/2.5 setup Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. Mine powers off too. I've got a Dell Precision something or other I'm running on my machine. My old machine, with an AMD processor didn't power off, only did the shut down of the OS. Mark -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] LiveCD
Hi I downloaded and burnt a CD of 2.4.6 and popped it into a windows machine to have a look at it But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a stepper config file on the drive, which I assume is a bad idea because it has windows on it. The only options I have are OK or Cancel How come there is no No? I got the same thing with a few of machine configs I chose. Regards Roland -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On 12 February 2012 14:02, Roland Jollivet roland.jolli...@gmail.com wrote: I downloaded and burnt a CD of 2.4.6 and popped it into a windows machine to have a look at it But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a stepper config file on the drive, which I assume is a bad idea because it has windows on it. If it can manage to do so, it probably won't matter, it is a small directory. In practice it probably won't find anywhere to put it, whether it then gives up gracefully is an interesting question. The only options I have are OK or Cancel How come there is no No? I think that probably counts as a bug. Or at least an inelegance. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a Install the config file on a USB key? -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] LiveCD
On 12 February 2012 16:23, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2012 14:02, Roland Jollivet roland.jolli...@gmail.com wrote: I downloaded and burnt a CD of 2.4.6 and popped it into a windows machine to have a look at it But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a stepper config file on the drive, which I assume is a bad idea because it has windows on it. If it can manage to do so, it probably won't matter, it is a small directory. In practice it probably won't find anywhere to put it, whether it then gives up gracefully is an interesting question. The only options I have are OK or Cancel How come there is no No? I think that probably counts as a bug. Or at least an inelegance. -- Ok, well it'll have to wait for a blank machine. I must the first person to have this problem? And this is a real linux neophyte question, but how do you power down without pulling the plug? Regards Roland -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a Install the config file on a USB key? And, it is easy to create a bootable usb flashdrive for Linuxcnc LiveCD using usb-creator: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Live_USB_creator ...mainly posting this because it took me a while to find this tool Tom -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: And this is a real linux neophyte question, but how do you power down without pulling the plug? There is a little symbol in the top right tool bar on the Ubuntu screen which looks like a circle with a vertical line passing though it (same symbol as on the power button on my Mac, and probably many other devices these days). Select that and you can restart, shutdown, etc. Also, depending on how you have your motherboard wired up, you can press the button that is connected to the MB reset pins and this will give you that same on screen selection for restart/shutdown... Or you can open a terminal and type shutdown (or reboot) Tom -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:02 +0200, Roland Jollivet wrote: Hi I downloaded and burnt a CD of 2.4.6 and popped it into a windows machine to have a look at it But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a stepper config file on the drive, which I assume is a bad idea because it has windows on it. The only options I have are OK or Cancel How come there is no No? I got the same thing with a few of machine configs I chose. Regards Roland I think what you are getting is when you start LinuCNC, a notice comes up and presents a list of configurations from the sample library. Since these are sample files, it is best not to change them directly, but to make a copy so you can edit the copy if needed. To promote this, the configuration selector offers to copy the file for you straight off the bat. When you boot the LIveCD, Ubuntu creates a RAMdisk (or similar) and this becomes your working drive, the configuration copy and other changes are stored here and go away when you turn Ubuntu Off. In Live mode, there should not be any other disks mounted, so nothing of the original Windows system should be in danger of being changed. You can, if you want mount your Widows drive, but it isn't mounted normally when the LiveCD loads. While exiting the Live session, an offer to save the changes on the RAMdisk is made. If desired, you can mount a removable drive, save your changes, then reuse them on the next session. Bottom line though, the original hard disk will not be touched. If you want to see what is mounted, from the desktop, click on Applications, then Accessories, then Terminal. In terminal, type in mount and press Enter. A list of mounted objects should be presented. Hard disks usually start with /dev/sda with a number appended that designates the partition number. sda represents SCSI Disk A -- SCSI being a hold over from the old days. sdb would be a second disk drive. To get out of the terminal type the command exit then Enter. This also can be done graphically using System / Administration / Disk Utility. This should show the disks Ubuntu knows about, and allow you to mount or unmount them as needed. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On 12 February 2012 19:25, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:02 +0200, Roland Jollivet wrote: Hi I downloaded and burnt a CD of 2.4.6 and popped it into a windows machine to have a look at it But... (I think) I can't actually run EMC because it wants to install a stepper config file on the drive, which I assume is a bad idea because it has windows on it. The only options I have are OK or Cancel How come there is no No? I got the same thing with a few of machine configs I chose. Regards Roland I think what you are getting is when you start LinuCNC, a notice comes up and presents a list of configurations from the sample library. Since these are sample files, it is best not to change them directly, but to make a copy so you can edit the copy if needed. To promote this, the configuration selector offers to copy the file for you straight off the bat. When you boot the LIveCD, Ubuntu creates a RAMdisk (or similar) and this becomes your working drive, the configuration copy and other changes are stored here and go away when you turn Ubuntu Off. In Live mode, there should not be any other disks mounted, so nothing of the original Windows system should be in danger of being changed. You can, if you want mount your Widows drive, but it isn't mounted normally when the LiveCD loads. While exiting the Live session, an offer to save the changes on the RAMdisk is made. If desired, you can mount a removable drive, save your changes, then reuse them on the next session. Bottom line though, the original hard disk will not be touched. If you want to see what is mounted, from the desktop, click on Applications, then Accessories, then Terminal. In terminal, type in mount and press Enter. A list of mounted objects should be presented. Hard disks usually start with /dev/sda with a number appended that designates the partition number. sda represents SCSI Disk A -- SCSI being a hold over from the old days. sdb would be a second disk drive. To get out of the terminal type the command exit then Enter. This also can be done graphically using System / Administration / Disk Utility. This should show the disks Ubuntu knows about, and allow you to mount or unmount them as needed. -- Kirk Wallace OK, thanks. Will try that. Regards Roland -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
Tom's instructions are correct but remember that the EMC version of Ubuntu only does a shutdown of the OS. You will have to turn the computer off manually. From: Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: And this is a real linux neophyte question, but how do you power down without pulling the plug? There is a little symbol in the top right tool bar on the Ubuntu screen which looks like a circle with a vertical line passing though it (same symbol as on the power button on my Mac, and probably many other devices these days). Select that and you can restart, shutdown, etc. Also, depending on how you have your motherboard wired up, you can press the button that is connected to the MB reset pins and this will give you that same on screen selection for restart/shutdown... Or you can open a terminal and type shutdown (or reboot) Tom -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Greg Bernard wrote: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:41:07 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD Tom's instructions are correct but remember that the EMC version of Ubuntu only does a shutdown of the OS. You will have to turn the computer off manually. That may be a version dependent issue. It turns off power on my 10.04/LinuxCNC 2.46/2.5 setup Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] livecd Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron fails on boot
Hello, Wanting to try out EMC2, I just downloaded the livecd based on *Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron. * however booting from the cd fails immediately on start with following message: ISOLINUX 3.53 Debian-2007-12-11 Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Missing parameter in syslinux.cfg. Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Could not find kernel image: linux boot: Within windows, the cd (autorun) comes up with Ubuntu CD Menu. the contents of the cd seem fine. I tried to boot the cd on two different laptops, but got the same error. I cannot try booting from my desktops (all busy at the moment). Searching the archives did not yield a result. What am I doing wrong? (now downloading the ubuntu 6.06version to give that a go) best regards glenn - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] livecd Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron fails on boot
the only idea I have is that there might have been a problem during burning... did you verify the md5sum of the cd before writing? Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: glenn de moor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: [Emc-users] livecd Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron fails on boot Hello, Wanting to try out EMC2, I just downloaded the livecd based on *Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron. * however booting from the cd fails immediately on start with following message: ISOLINUX 3.53 Debian-2007-12-11 Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Missing parameter in syslinux.cfg. Unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg. Could not find kernel image: linux boot: Within windows, the cd (autorun) comes up with Ubuntu CD Menu. the contents of the cd seem fine. I tried to boot the cd on two different laptops, but got the same error. I cannot try booting from my desktops (all busy at the moment). Searching the archives did not yield a result. What am I doing wrong? (now downloading the ubuntu 6.06version to give that a go) best regards glenn - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD update
Thanks, Alex Regards, Miroslav On 11/17/07, Alex Joni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Miroslav, that's even less. I'd say it's realistic to expect about 25-30.000 pulses / second from emc2 without majour problems. Regarding trapezoidal profile, it does it properly if you set the right acceleration values. S-curve profiles haven't been implemented yet. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Miroslav Pejic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD update HI MATT, MY BIG MISTAKE! IT ISN'T 600 BUT 60 PULSES IN 75 MILISECONDS REGARDS, MIROSLAV On 11/17/07, Matthew Glenn Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 18:47 +0100, Miroslav Pejic wrote: Hi Alex, I'm about to use emc2 to drive my embroidery multihead machine. But, I'm not shure about speed. Embroidery machine runs at 400 rpm.That means Emc2 must generate up to 600 pulses in 75 miliseconds, at two independent paralell port lines, and with acceleration and decceleration phases, trapesoidal (or S-curve shape if possible). After this is 75 miliseconds pause for preparing next pulse generation. Question is: is this possible ? 600 pulses / 75 milliseconds = 8 pulses/millisecond, or 8000 pulses per second. This should be no problem at all! Matt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 10:58 PM - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD update
Hi Alex, I'm about to use emc2 to drive my embroidery multihead machine. But, I'm not shure about speed. Embroidery machine runs at 400 rpm.That means Emc2 must generate up to 600 pulses in 75 miliseconds, at two independent paralell port lines, and with acceleration and decceleration phases, trapesoidal (or S-curve shape if possible). After this is 75 miliseconds pause for preparing next pulse generation. Question is: is this possible ? Best regards, Miroslav On 11/15/07, Alex Joni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, just wanted to let you all know that I updated the LiveCD found at www.linuxcnc.org. It now features emc2.2.1 along with all ubuntu updates (up to last night). This is the encouraged method for new installs. It is not meant as a method for upgrades !! The necessary steps for upgrading emc2 are described in the wiki: Updating emc2: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.2 Updating configurations: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UPDATING If you don't have an internet connection on your PC, then simply downloading the latest emc2 package (found at: http://www.linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/dapper/emc2.2/binary-i386/emc2_2.2.1_i386.deb ) on another computer, moving it over (via USB stick, CD, or whatever), and installing it (by clicking in the GUI, or by using sudo dpkg -i emc2_2.2.1_i386.dev at the command line) should be enough. Best regards, Alex PS: please report problems with the a.m. livecd, if there are any - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD update
On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 18:47 +0100, Miroslav Pejic wrote: Hi Alex, I'm about to use emc2 to drive my embroidery multihead machine. But, I'm not shure about speed. Embroidery machine runs at 400 rpm.That means Emc2 must generate up to 600 pulses in 75 miliseconds, at two independent paralell port lines, and with acceleration and decceleration phases, trapesoidal (or S-curve shape if possible). After this is 75 miliseconds pause for preparing next pulse generation. Question is: is this possible ? 600 pulses / 75 milliseconds = 8 pulses/millisecond, or 8000 pulses per second. This should be no problem at all! Matt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD update
HI MATT, MY BIG MISTAKE! IT ISN'T 600 BUT 60 PULSES IN 75 MILISECONDS REGARDS, MIROSLAV On 11/17/07, Matthew Glenn Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 18:47 +0100, Miroslav Pejic wrote: Hi Alex, I'm about to use emc2 to drive my embroidery multihead machine. But, I'm not shure about speed. Embroidery machine runs at 400 rpm.That means Emc2 must generate up to 600 pulses in 75 miliseconds, at two independent paralell port lines, and with acceleration and decceleration phases, trapesoidal (or S-curve shape if possible). After this is 75 miliseconds pause for preparing next pulse generation. Question is: is this possible ? 600 pulses / 75 milliseconds = 8 pulses/millisecond, or 8000 pulses per second. This should be no problem at all! Matt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD update
Hi Miroslav, that's even less. I'd say it's realistic to expect about 25-30.000 pulses / second from emc2 without majour problems. Regarding trapezoidal profile, it does it properly if you set the right acceleration values. S-curve profiles haven't been implemented yet. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Miroslav Pejic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LiveCD update HI MATT, MY BIG MISTAKE! IT ISN'T 600 BUT 60 PULSES IN 75 MILISECONDS REGARDS, MIROSLAV On 11/17/07, Matthew Glenn Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 18:47 +0100, Miroslav Pejic wrote: Hi Alex, I'm about to use emc2 to drive my embroidery multihead machine. But, I'm not shure about speed. Embroidery machine runs at 400 rpm.That means Emc2 must generate up to 600 pulses in 75 miliseconds, at two independent paralell port lines, and with acceleration and decceleration phases, trapesoidal (or S-curve shape if possible). After this is 75 miliseconds pause for preparing next pulse generation. Question is: is this possible ? 600 pulses / 75 milliseconds = 8 pulses/millisecond, or 8000 pulses per second. This should be no problem at all! Matt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 10:58 PM - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] LiveCD update
Hello all, just wanted to let you all know that I updated the LiveCD found at www.linuxcnc.org. It now features emc2.2.1 along with all ubuntu updates (up to last night). This is the encouraged method for new installs. It is not meant as a method for upgrades !! The necessary steps for upgrading emc2 are described in the wiki: Updating emc2: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.2 Updating configurations: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UPDATING If you don't have an internet connection on your PC, then simply downloading the latest emc2 package (found at: http://www.linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/dapper/emc2.2/binary-i386/emc2_2.2.1_i386.deb) on another computer, moving it over (via USB stick, CD, or whatever), and installing it (by clicking in the GUI, or by using sudo dpkg -i emc2_2.2.1_i386.dev at the command line) should be enough. Best regards, Alex PS: please report problems with the a.m. livecd, if there are any - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
