Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 25 February 2019 08:11:39 MC Cason via Emc-users wrote:

> On 2/24/19 11:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > To stay organized, I'd need a pdf reader that does the mouse slide
> > copy so I could paste it in. I've not seen one of them critters
> > lately, neither evince nor okular support the mouse copy.
> >
> > Give me a pdf reader that does, and a browser that just works, and I
> > might give it a shot, IF I can ever find whats made firefox so
> > darned allergic to anything that even smells like javascript.  One
> > of the reasons I've been trying to make konqueror the default
> > browser, but click on a link in konqueror, and it opens a copy of
> > firefox. Which of course throws up the javascript error like it
> > can't find a javascript interpretor anyplace on the system. When
> > probably 75% of the javascript stuff in the repo's IS INSTALLED.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
>    Take the PDF and copy it.  If you do not have PDF-Shuffler
> installed, install it and use it to delete all but the remaining pages
> you need to translate.  Use PDF-Shuffler again to add them back into a
> new translated PDF.
>
>    I use it all the time to edit PDF files.
>
> ---Mark
>
You must be writing about a different pwd-shuffler than the one I just 
installed.  Its badly "out of focus" and cannot be magnified enough to 
read the individual page to determine if its engrish or chinese.

LCNC is sending it the correct signals. But its only responding to the 
non-zero input from the analog pot the 7i76 outpits its speed voltage 
over  While theres 10.3 volts present on both the fwd and rev labeled 
terminals, connecting them to the analog common is ignored. Such a 
connection is equ to manual pushbutton, but pushing it only has zero 
effect. LCNC's drive pulls it some below a TTL logic zero. Anything from 
LCNC is treated as a fwd request, even if the wires for fwd/ena and rev 
are physically disconnected!

I can use it this way, but it bugs the hell out of me that the control 
terminal strip has well labeled fwd and rev terminals that don't do 
squat.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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[Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Roland Jollivet]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 23:16, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Sunday 24 February 2019 15:07:59 Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
>
> > > Why did they plainly mark the control strip with fwd and rev if they
> > > have no effect?
> >
> > Configuration?
> >
> The best I have for that is in chinese, and google translate stops
> translating in the middle of page 40.  Its about a 70 page manual so it
> stops short of getting to the register descriptions that probably
> control that. And for some reason, mozilla refuses to retry the
> translation.  So now I'm asking how to make konqueror the default
> browser because every link I try to follow in konqueror open a new
> mozilla (firefox) to access the link.
>
> Since its a long document, is there some trick to making google translate
> the whole thing?
>

The simplest way is to 'print' pages 40 - 70 or whatever, but send it to a
virtual pdf printer, like PDF ReDirect. Of your pdf reader might support
'printing' to pdf.

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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 25 February 2019 01:48:26 jrmitchellj wrote:

> On the Yaskawa VFD I am using, there are registers that can be changed
> to alter the function of the run & fwd/rev inputs, so the names really
> are silly.
> There are a large number of those registers that change a bunch of
> things. It took me several days for me to find the ones I needed to
> tweek.
>
> Ray
>
> --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
> jrmitche...@gmail.com
>
Generally, the lack of docs on most of these things is a major PIMA.

It took a while to find the ones I needed to play with when I bought one 
of the then $130 clones from ebay to run a 3 phase motor on my cnc'd 
Sheldon 11x54.

But I can, within reason, do rigid tapping on that Sheldon now. These vfd 
things can be made to do amazing things.

At 300 revs I have to compensate for the overtravel at the bottom of a 
blind hole else the tap will hit the bottom of the hole due to overshoot 
at the g33.1 reversal, with an 8" chuck mounted, thats quite a flywheel, 
so its around 3.5 turns. Much less of a problem at slower speeds.  And 
the drive belts are yelping.  So I wrote some hal code to measure the 
overshoot while cutting air, display it in both distance traveled and in 
chuck turns, then I subtract about 95% of it for the depth of the tap 
travel in the resultant g33.1 code.  Haven't broken a tap since. But 
trying to hold a tap in a common tool holder like for a boring bar, 
allows slippage. I need to design a tap holder that fits the qctp that 
grabs a tap by the square butt to stop any slippage, thats still being a 
problem on the Sheldon.

The tap "hats" for the milling machine have solved that problem there by 
keying the hat into the r8 holder with a notch for the head of a 4mm 
screw in the side of the hat.

So I need to design and make something that holds a tap mounted in a hat, 
right on the Sheldon's qctp. That will put torque into the qctp, and may 
make me put tapered gibs on its carriage.  Doing that to TLM  made a 
whole new machine out of it.

So if we had the docs, we can likely make it work. The docs we have, fed 
to google translate, are a usable translation up to page 40, but the 
translator stops translating and the other 19 pages are worthless, so we 
have descriptions up to only d050's for registers, and theres 200 of 
them. We do have a list of defaults, but zero explanations for the last 
140 registers.

Thanks J. Ray.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[MC Cason via Emc-users]

On 2/24/19 11:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

To stay organized, I'd need a pdf reader that does the mouse slide copy
so I could paste it in. I've not seen one of them critters lately,
neither evince nor okular support the mouse copy.

Give me a pdf reader that does, and a browser that just works, and I
might give it a shot, IF I can ever find whats made firefox so darned
allergic to anything that even smells like javascript.  One of the
reasons I've been trying to make konqueror the default browser, but
click on a link in konqueror, and it opens a copy of firefox. Which of
course throws up the javascript error like it can't find a javascript
interpretor anyplace on the system. When probably 75% of the javascript
stuff in the repo's IS INSTALLED.

Cheers, Gene Heskett



  Take the PDF and copy it.  If you do not have PDF-Shuffler installed, 
install it and use it to delete all but the remaining pages you need to 
translate.  Use PDF-Shuffler again to add them back into a new 
translated PDF.


  I use it all the time to edit PDF files.

---Mark





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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[jrmitchellj]

On the Yaskawa VFD I am using, there are registers that can be changed to
alter the function of the run & fwd/rev inputs, so the names really are
silly.
There are a large number of those registers that change a bunch of things.
It took me several days for me to find the ones I needed to tweek.

Ray

--J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
jrmitche...@gmail.com



"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created
it"Albert Einstein


On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 9:48 PM Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Sunday 24 February 2019 23:06:52 Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>
> > >  a long document, is there some trick to making google translate
> > > the whole thing?
> >
> > if you just need to translate a section about some particular register
> > you're interested in, just cut and paste into the direct translation
> > box. Otherwise, download and split the Chinese doc and then upload
> > individual pieces, using teh Documents button above the translation
> > box. I haven't tried translating my own Google Drive documents, but it
> > could work too, and save uploading them back.
> >
> To stay organized, I'd need a pdf reader that does the mouse slide copy
> so I could paste it in. I've not seen one of them critters lately,
> neither evince nor okular support the mouse copy.
>
> Give me a pdf reader that does, and a browser that just works, and I
> might give it a shot, IF I can ever find whats made firefox so darned
> allergic to anything that even smells like javascript.  One of the
> reasons I've been trying to make konqueror the default browser, but
> click on a link in konqueror, and it opens a copy of firefox. Which of
> course throws up the javascript error like it can't find a javascript
> interpretor anyplace on the system. When probably 75% of the javascript
> stuff in the repo's IS INSTALLED.
>
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Genes Web page 
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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 24 February 2019 23:06:52 Przemek Klosowski wrote:

> >  a long document, is there some trick to making google translate
> > the whole thing?
>
> if you just need to translate a section about some particular register
> you're interested in, just cut and paste into the direct translation
> box. Otherwise, download and split the Chinese doc and then upload
> individual pieces, using teh Documents button above the translation
> box. I haven't tried translating my own Google Drive documents, but it
> could work too, and save uploading them back.
>
To stay organized, I'd need a pdf reader that does the mouse slide copy 
so I could paste it in. I've not seen one of them critters lately, 
neither evince nor okular support the mouse copy.

Give me a pdf reader that does, and a browser that just works, and I 
might give it a shot, IF I can ever find whats made firefox so darned 
allergic to anything that even smells like javascript.  One of the 
reasons I've been trying to make konqueror the default browser, but 
click on a link in konqueror, and it opens a copy of firefox. Which of 
course throws up the javascript error like it can't find a javascript 
interpretor anyplace on the system. When probably 75% of the javascript 
stuff in the repo's IS INSTALLED.

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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Przemek Klosowski]

>
>
>  a long document, is there some trick to making google translate
> the whole thing?
>
if you just need to translate a section about some particular register
you're interested in, just cut and paste into the direct translation box.
Otherwise, download and split the Chinese doc and then upload individual
pieces, using teh Documents button above the translation box. I haven't
tried translating my own Google Drive documents, but it could work too, and
save uploading them back.

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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 24 February 2019 15:07:59 Nicklas Karlsson wrote:

> > Why did they plainly mark the control strip with fwd and rev if they
> > have no effect?
>
> Configuration?
>
The best I have for that is in chinese, and google translate stops 
translating in the middle of page 40.  Its about a 70 page manual so it 
stops short of getting to the register descriptions that probably 
control that. And for some reason, mozilla refuses to retry the 
translation.  So now I'm asking how to make konqueror the default 
browser because every link I try to follow in konqueror open a new 
mozilla (firefox) to access the link.

Since its a long document, is there some trick to making google translate 
the whole thing?

The answer may well be there, but I don't read Chinese.

Thanks Nic.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Nicklas Karlsson]

> Why did they plainly mark the control strip with fwd and rev if they have 
> no effect?

Configuration?


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Re: [Emc-users] head scratcher, updated some more

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 23 February 2019 17:39:04 Gene Heskett wrote:

Trying to get control over this @#&%$#)* Chinese vfd.

Found a doc that I think applies to the clone vfd thats running my 
Sheldon, it shows all the control buttons as making ground contact to 
exert the control, so I rewire the 7i76 to do that. But this thing 
ignores the fwd and rev signals, responding only to the voltage sent to 
the spinout terminal. I've now done everything in the way of control 
combo's and the only way I get a response is if its stopped, but the fwd 
led on it panel is on, then it will run fwd only. at whatever speed lcnc 
asks for.  And thats disabled if the last button push on the local panel 
is stop, the last button pushed must be run.  If I switch it to MANual, 
it runs wide open, ignoring the speed knob setting.

Why did they plainly mark the control strip with fwd and rev if they have 
no effect?

Theres one register that supposedly controls how thats supposed to work, 
also has no effect.  d091.

Has anyone actually made the 1500 watt spindle in the bigger 6040 gantry 
mill actually work?with LCNC?
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