[Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC again

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Joni
I struggled in the last couple of weeks to get some more out of the BBB + 
LinuxCNC setup, mainly the display part was suboptimal.

my setup
---

bbb connected through the USB (and eth tunnelled over that - 192.168.7.2) to a 
laptop (192.168.7.1).

1. laptop running Linux

There were some performance issues with running AXIS (especially the OpenGL 
part).
Here are some comments from jepler which improve things:
{[01:04:32]} jepler this makes it use the glx wire protocol instead: sudo 
chmod 000 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/swrast_dri.so 
{[01:14:15]} jepler changing the task timeout to 10ms instead of 1ms knocks 
milltask way down 
{[01:14:45]} jepler ssh encryption takes 30% CPU 
{[01:27:26]} jepler this seems to be a bit lighter on the CPU: ssh -X -o 
Ciphers=arcfour linuxcnc@192.168.7.2 

2. laptop running Win

I played around with a couple X servers (Cygwin/X, Mingw+X, Xming) but the best 
results I got with Xming-mesa.
For Xming-mesa I still had to have the swrast_dri.so accessible (sudo chmod 644 
/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/swrast_dri.so) in order for things to work.

here’s a short video how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuE1JWFbbOU


There is a prebuilt image available for download here:
http://webshop.juve.ro/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=1_5products_id=7

The image contains the latest Machinekit I got from Charles, and can be written 
directly to a SD card with dd.
On the image (in the fat partition) there are some additional programs 
installed:
- Xming-mesa server (run-in-place version)
- putty
- a simple batch file (start.bat) which starts up the X server, connects to the 
BBB, and starts the LinuxCNC config picker

Hope this helps someone else out there 

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC again

2013-12-19 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 12/19/2013 3:29 PM, Alex Joni wrote:
 I struggled in the last couple of weeks to get some more out of the BBB + 
 LinuxCNC setup, mainly the display part was suboptimal.
 
 my setup
 ---
 
 bbb connected through the USB (and eth tunnelled over that - 192.168.7.2) to 
 a laptop (192.168.7.1).
 
 1. laptop running Linux
 
 There were some performance issues with running AXIS (especially the OpenGL 
 part).
 Here are some comments from jepler which improve things:
 {[01:04:32]} jepler this makes it use the glx wire protocol instead: sudo 
 chmod 000 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/swrast_dri.so 
 {[01:14:15]} jepler changing the task timeout to 10ms instead of 1ms knocks 
 milltask way down 
 {[01:14:45]} jepler ssh encryption takes 30% CPU 
 {[01:27:26]} jepler this seems to be a bit lighter on the CPU: ssh -X -o 
 Ciphers=arcfour linuxcnc@192.168.7.2 
 
 2. laptop running Win
 
 I played around with a couple X servers (Cygwin/X, Mingw+X, Xming) but the 
 best results I got with Xming-mesa.
 For Xming-mesa I still had to have the swrast_dri.so accessible (sudo chmod 
 644 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/swrast_dri.so) in order for things to 
 work.
 
 here’s a short video how it works:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuE1JWFbbOU

Impressive results!  The backplot display actually looks like it might
be usable (at least when you didn't just load a 10 MB 3D print file with
a few hundred thousand lines of gcode).

Note that you can also use the null cipher (no encryption) with ssh, but
you have to coerce both ends into allowing this.  You can also just
forward the raw X display without tunneling (I've verified this with the
Cygwin X server, but I haven't tried it with swrast_dri.so fix).

Thanks for sharing!

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-12 Thread Dave Cole
How does someone buy this board??

Dave

On 10/11/2013 3:15 PM, Len Shelton wrote:
 May as well go ahead and throw my hat into the ring. Here is our BBB
 breakout board:
 http://www.probotix.com/wiki/index.php/PBX-BB

 The first batch of boards is almost sold out. We'll have it on the
 website to order early next week. About one week out on the next batch.

   Len

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 October 2013 04:11, Condit Alan condita...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am kind of like Ralph. I also have a Mesa 7i43 that I would like to be able 
 to run from a BBB. It would be great if there was a cape that could look like 
 an EPP with a driver that could run hostmot2.

 I have one machine that I am going to try to run from the BBB + BeBoPr + 
 Bridge. But eventually I would like to use my 7i43 with a BBB or, if Pete 
 comes up with the equivalent of a 5i25 for the BBB, sell my 7i43 and the two 
 7i42TAs that I have.

This is quite a complicated situation, and there seems to be some
confusion about the datatypes of the various layers.

I don't think an EPP interface out of the BBB and into the 7i43 makes
much sense. The 7i43 takes commands from the EPP and produces step/dir
and/or PWM and/or GPIO signals from that.
This means that a BBB to EPP interface would probably be using the PRU
to prestend to be an EPP parallel port to tell a 7i43 to do exactly
what the PRU _already_does_ .

What would be much more interesting would be a Smart-Serial module in
the BBB PRU. Then the 7i76 could connect directly to a 25-pin D-sub on
a BBB cape, with step/dir sourced from the PRU, and the GPIO handled
by Smart-Serial.

The other alternative would be an adapter board to link PRU step/dir
or PWM to the 50-pin headers on the 7i42 cards. I am not sure if the
7i42 can work as a level-shifter, I do know that the FPGA on the Mesa
cards is 3.3V like the BBB but I am not sure which side of the ribbon
cable the level-shifting is done.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Ralph Stirling
I am certainly planning on using the BBB PRU directly for some of
my projects, but I have others that need to control ten stepper motors,
or do closed loop servo control of four axes with high resolution encoders.
I don't think the PRU can handle that many channels, although I could
simply be insufficiently educated on its capabilities.  I already have a
half-dozen 7I43's, with a lot of configuration work for my projects already
done.  So in my opinion this is not such a silly scenario.  Any processor
can benefit from an FPGA assistant :-).

-- Ralph

From: andy pugh [bodge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 3:22 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.

On 11 October 2013 04:11, Condit Alan condita...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am kind of like Ralph. I also have a Mesa 7i43 that I would like to be able 
 to run from a BBB. It would be great if there was a cape that could look like 
 an EPP with a driver that could run hostmot2.

 I have one machine that I am going to try to run from the BBB + BeBoPr + 
 Bridge. But eventually I would like to use my 7i43 with a BBB or, if Pete 
 comes up with the equivalent of a 5i25 for the BBB, sell my 7i43 and the two 
 7i42TAs that I have.

This is quite a complicated situation, and there seems to be some
confusion about the datatypes of the various layers.

I don't think an EPP interface out of the BBB and into the 7i43 makes
much sense. The 7i43 takes commands from the EPP and produces step/dir
and/or PWM and/or GPIO signals from that.
This means that a BBB to EPP interface would probably be using the PRU
to prestend to be an EPP parallel port to tell a 7i43 to do exactly
what the PRU _already_does_ .

What would be much more interesting would be a Smart-Serial module in
the BBB PRU. Then the 7i76 could connect directly to a 25-pin D-sub on
a BBB cape, with step/dir sourced from the PRU, and the GPIO handled
by Smart-Serial.

The other alternative would be an adapter board to link PRU step/dir
or PWM to the 50-pin headers on the 7i42 cards. I am not sure if the
7i42 can work as a level-shifter, I do know that the FPGA on the Mesa
cards is 3.3V like the BBB but I am not sure which side of the ribbon
cable the level-shifting is done.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC

2013-10-11 Thread Condit Alan
Andy,

The 7I43 can also do PWM/DIR and handle the encoder counting to run servos.

Alan

On Oct 11, 2013, at 4:23 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
 Date: October 11, 2013 3:22:58 AM PDT
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\) 
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 
 
 On 11 October 2013 04:11, Condit Alan condita...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am kind of like Ralph. I also have a Mesa 7i43 that I would like to be 
 able to run from a BBB. It would be great if there was a cape that could 
 look like an EPP with a driver that could run hostmot2.
 
 I have one machine that I am going to try to run from the BBB + BeBoPr + 
 Bridge. But eventually I would like to use my 7i43 with a BBB or, if Pete 
 comes up with the equivalent of a 5i25 for the BBB, sell my 7i43 and the two 
 7i42TAs that I have.
 
 This is quite a complicated situation, and there seems to be some
 confusion about the datatypes of the various layers.
 
 I don't think an EPP interface out of the BBB and into the 7i43 makes
 much sense. The 7i43 takes commands from the EPP and produces step/dir
 and/or PWM and/or GPIO signals from that.
 This means that a BBB to EPP interface would probably be using the PRU
 to prestend to be an EPP parallel port to tell a 7i43 to do exactly
 what the PRU _already_does_ .
 
 What would be much more interesting would be a Smart-Serial module in
 the BBB PRU. Then the 7i76 could connect directly to a 25-pin D-sub on
 a BBB cape, with step/dir sourced from the PRU, and the GPIO handled
 by Smart-Serial.
 
 The other alternative would be an adapter board to link PRU step/dir
 or PWM to the 50-pin headers on the 7i42 cards. I am not sure if the
 7i42 can work as a level-shifter, I do know that the FPGA on the Mesa
 cards is 3.3V like the BBB but I am not sure which side of the ribbon
 cable the level-shifting is done.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC

2013-10-11 Thread Condit Alan
Andy,

The 7I43 can also do PWM/DIR and handle the encoder counting to run servos.

Alan

On Oct 11, 2013, at 4:23 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
 Date: October 11, 2013 3:22:58 AM PDT
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\) 
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 
 
 On 11 October 2013 04:11, Condit Alan condita...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am kind of like Ralph. I also have a Mesa 7i43 that I would like to be 
 able to run from a BBB. It would be great if there was a cape that could 
 look like an EPP with a driver that could run hostmot2.
 
 I have one machine that I am going to try to run from the BBB + BeBoPr + 
 Bridge. But eventually I would like to use my 7i43 with a BBB or, if Pete 
 comes up with the equivalent of a 5i25 for the BBB, sell my 7i43 and the two 
 7i42TAs that I have.
 
 This is quite a complicated situation, and there seems to be some
 confusion about the datatypes of the various layers.
 
 I don't think an EPP interface out of the BBB and into the 7i43 makes
 much sense. The 7i43 takes commands from the EPP and produces step/dir
 and/or PWM and/or GPIO signals from that.
 This means that a BBB to EPP interface would probably be using the PRU
 to prestend to be an EPP parallel port to tell a 7i43 to do exactly
 what the PRU _already_does_ .
 
 What would be much more interesting would be a Smart-Serial module in
 the BBB PRU. Then the 7i76 could connect directly to a 25-pin D-sub on
 a BBB cape, with step/dir sourced from the PRU, and the GPIO handled
 by Smart-Serial.
 
 The other alternative would be an adapter board to link PRU step/dir
 or PWM to the 50-pin headers on the 7i42 cards. I am not sure if the
 7i42 can work as a level-shifter, I do know that the FPGA on the Mesa
 cards is 3.3V like the BBB but I am not sure which side of the ribbon
 cable the level-shifting is done.
 
 -- 
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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 October 2013 14:33, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:
 I am certainly planning on using the BBB PRU directly for some of
 my projects, but I have others that need to control ten stepper motors,
 or do closed loop servo control of four axes with high resolution encoders.
 I don't think the PRU can handle that many channels

Well, in that case I guess that what is needed is some code (possibly
running in the PRU) to buffer a byte stream onto a selection of pins,
and read back on others to act like EPP, as was suggested.

On the HAL side it looks moderately straightforward, a third interface
driver to live alongside hm2_pci, hm2_7i43 and hm2_eth (arguably
hm2_7i43 should have been called hm2_epp).

hm2_bbb could even conceivably be a base-thread HAL module and simply
twiddle GPIO bits.

However, if it were to be presented as a parallel port (as far as
LinuxCNC saw it) instead then it would also work with the Pico cards.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/11/13 09:02 , andy pugh wrote:
 On the HAL side it looks moderately straightforward, a third interface
 driver to live alongside hm2_pci, hm2_7i43 and hm2_eth (arguably
 hm2_7i43 should have been called hm2_epp).

The hm2_7i43 driver has the right name, because it has a bunch of 
7i43-specific stuff in it.  There's another EPP AnyIO board now called 
the 7i90, and it needs a different driver than hm2_7i43 because it needs 
to be talked to in a different way, and unlike all the PCI AnyIO cards 
there's no way to tell the difference between them 7i43 and the 7i90.

What would probably make sense is to pull the EPP code out of hm2_7i43, 
and while we're at it look at what other EPP-using drivers there are, 
and unify all that.  Then hm2_7i43 and hm2_7i90 (and the others) can use 
this new EPP driver.

And *then*, we can make that EPP driver pluggable so we can drop a 
BBB/PRU EPP driver in, and have it export the same interface to the 
higher-level drivers, and then both 7i43 and 7i90, and whatever other 
EPP-using drivers we have, would work.


 hm2_bbb could even conceivably be a base-thread HAL module and simply
 twiddle GPIO bits.

That'd be too slow for hm2 EPP communication.  The EPP protocol needs 
several control-line twiddles, and polling for incoming signals from the 
device at the other end of the cable, per byte transfered:

http://www.fapo.com/eppmode.htm


 However, if it were to be presented as a parallel port (as far as
 LinuxCNC saw it) instead then it would also work with the Pico cards.

We could provide compatibility either at the IO port level, or at the 
API level as i outlined above.  I think either one could be made to work.


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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Andrew
2013/10/11 Condit Alan condita...@yahoo.com

 I am kind of like Ralph. I also have a Mesa 7i43 that I would like to be
 able to run from a BBB. It would be great if there was a cape that could
 look like an EPP with a driver that could run hostmot2.


But how about 7I80 for BBB? No PCI or EPP required.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Jon Elson
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 On 10/11/2013 5:22 AM, andy pugh wrote:
   
 I don't think an EPP interface out of the BBB and into the 7i43 makes
 much sense. The 7i43 takes commands from the EPP and produces step/dir
 and/or PWM and/or GPIO signals from that.
 This means that a BBB to EPP interface would probably be using the PRU
 to prestend to be an EPP parallel port to tell a 7i43 to do exactly
 what the PRU _already_does_ .
 

 The point is not to use the 7i43 for step/dir generation, but for true
 servos with encoder feedback.  This is _maybe_ possible using just the
 BBB and the PRU, but using something like the 7i43 means a lot less
 development work.
Yes, exactly.  Something I really want to do is create PRU code and hack 
my PPMC
driver to talk through the PRU for fast access to the external device.  
Later I might
create firmware for these devices with streamlined I/O to allow faster 
servo cycles.
The PRU is great for step generation, but when faced with having to sample
multiple hardware encoders at high speeds as well as create PWM or analog
outputs with high resolution, it runs out of gas.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Len Shelton
May as well go ahead and throw my hat into the ring. Here is our BBB 
breakout board:
http://www.probotix.com/wiki/index.php/PBX-BB

The first batch of boards is almost sold out. We'll have it on the 
website to order early next week. About one week out on the next batch.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 11 October 2013 16:38:44 Len Shelton did opine:

 May as well go ahead and throw my hat into the ring. Here is our BBB
 breakout board:
 http://www.probotix.com/wiki/index.php/PBX-BB
 
 The first batch of boards is almost sold out. We'll have it on the
 website to order early next week. About one week out on the next batch.

Which looks as if I could mount the whole thing in the same space as the 
C1G's currently are in the motor control boxes.  Which means I would be 
losing the LED on it, a valuable troubleshooting tool.

But where are the prices?
 
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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 October 2013 16:35, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote:

 And *then*, we can make that EPP driver pluggable so we can drop a
 BBB/PRU EPP driver in, and have it export the same interface to the
 higher-level drivers, and then both 7i43 and 7i90, and whatever other
 EPP-using drivers we have, would work.

Actually, in this _specific_ scenario I suspect that EPP emulation on
the BBB to talk to the FPGA is possibly a silly thing anyway, because
what is happening in the FPGA is GPIO emulating EPP. It is possibly
more sensible to just set up a fast serial link from BBB to 7i43, and
use a different firmware on the FPGA that doesn't waste effort trying
to be a parallel port.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/11/13 15:58 , andy pugh wrote:
 On 11 October 2013 16:35, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote:

 And *then*, we can make that EPP driver pluggable so we can drop a
 BBB/PRU EPP driver in, and have it export the same interface to the
 higher-level drivers, and then both 7i43 and 7i90, and whatever other
 EPP-using drivers we have, would work.

 Actually, in this _specific_ scenario I suspect that EPP emulation on
 the BBB to talk to the FPGA is possibly a silly thing anyway, because
 what is happening in the FPGA is GPIO emulating EPP. It is possibly
 more sensible to just set up a fast serial link from BBB to 7i43, and
 use a different firmware on the FPGA that doesn't waste effort trying
 to be a parallel port.

The 7i43 specifically is pretty well tied to EPP due to the CPLD that 
receives the FPGA firmware via EPP and flashes the FPGA.

Possibly a future AnyIO board won't have this requirement.

Or maybe we could do slow EPP by software-twiddling the GPIO pins to 
send the firmware, then do some smarter/simpler serial protocol over the 
same wires once the FPGA firware is in control.


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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 10/11/2013 2:15 PM, Len Shelton wrote:
 May as well go ahead and throw my hat into the ring. Here is our BBB 
 breakout board:
 http://www.probotix.com/wiki/index.php/PBX-BB
 
 The first batch of boards is almost sold out. We'll have it on the 
 website to order early next week. About one week out on the next batch.

Very cool!

Please let us all know when we can actually place orders!

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 10/10/2013 8:55 AM, Russell Brown wrote:
 FWIW, I was intrigued and bought a BBB to play with.
 
 I didn't end up using it for my Mill CNC project as I couldn't find any
 concise documentation on how you actually connected the BBB to motors
 and switches (I'm a programmer of business systems by trade and know
 naff all about CNC or electronics).
 
 Did I need a cape?  Could I just connect to conventional drivers like a
 parallel port?  Do I need to solder wires on or is there a screw type
 connector that fits the sockets?  It wasn't obvious.
 
 I guess this info probably does exist but I couldn't find it via Google
 at the time.
 
 Perhaps a blow by blow blog/project might help others who are looking.

The BeagleBone stuff is still developing.  You basically needed a cape
that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape like this one:

http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/

For many uses, you could just replace this with jumper wires to the BBB
headers, or directly solder wires to a prototype cape, but neither of
these is attactive or at all like an appliance application.

Stay tuned...

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Charles Steinkuehler
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 The BeagleBone stuff is still developing.  You basically needed a cape
 that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape like this one:

 http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/


That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
disappeared.  Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
db25 part without a RAMPS.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 October 2013 16:03, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote:

 That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
 disappeared.  Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
 db25 part without a RAMPS.

I think Alex Joni is working on exactly that.

I made just what you describe for the RPi, It cost me $20 for 20 PCBs
and about $5 per board to populate some.
The GTL2000 chip makes it a simple point-to-point wiring puzzle.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 10/10/2013 10:03 AM, Eric Keller wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Charles Steinkuehler
 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 The BeagleBone stuff is still developing.  You basically needed a cape
 that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape like this one:

 http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/
 
 That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
 disappeared.  Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
 db25 part without a RAMPS.

I'd like one too.  Anyone near Chicago who can drop in on the Pumping
Station: One CNC nights?

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Alex Joni
Something like this http://imagebin.org/273328 ?
I'm currently working on this, but still travelling till the end of the 
week. I'll post an info update at the end of the week about current status, 
and future plans.

Regards,
Alex


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From: Eric Keller
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:03 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Charles Steinkuehler
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 The BeagleBone stuff is still developing.  You basically needed a cape
 that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape like this 
 one:

 http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/


That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
disappeared.  Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
db25 part without a RAMPS.

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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 10 October 2013 19:31:06 Alex Joni did opine:

 Something like this http://imagebin.org/273328 ?
 I'm currently working on this, but still travelling till the end of the
 week. I'll post an info update at the end of the week about current
 status, and future plans.
 
 Regards,
 Alex
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Keller
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:03 PM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
 
 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Charles Steinkuehler
 
 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
  The BeagleBone stuff is still developing.  You basically needed a cape
  that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape like this
  one:
  
  http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/
 
I wonder how far out to when we can actually buy this board is?  I could 
not find any links that had an asking price.

 That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
 disappeared.  Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
 db25 part without a RAMPS.
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Jeff Pollard
Hi,

  I also have a LinuxCNC cape for the BBB using the MachineKit software that 
I've made for some of my own projects.  I have extra boards available that I 
can populate if enough people would like to get one (I'd like about ten+ orders 
to make the batch). I'd like to get $16.00 for a board (without cape ID eeprom) 
or $18.00 for a board (with eeprom, but unprogrammed)  More information can be 
found here:

http://.beaglecnc.com/

Thanks,

Jeff
www.xylotex.com


 From: ghesk...@wdtv.com
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:32:19 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.

 On Thursday 10 October 2013 19:31:06 Alex Joni did opine:

 Something like this http://imagebin.org/273328 ?
 I'm currently working on this, but still travelling till the end of the
 week. I'll post an info update at the end of the week about current
 status, and future plans.

 Regards,
 Alex


 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Keller
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:03 PM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.

 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Charles Steinkuehler

 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 The BeagleBone stuff is still developing. You basically needed a cape
 that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape like this
 one:

 http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/

 I wonder how far out to when we can actually buy this board is? I could
 not find any links that had an asking price.

 That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
 disappeared. Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
 db25 part without a RAMPS.

 
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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 10 October 2013 20:21:34 Jeff Pollard did opine:

 Hi,
 
   I also have a LinuxCNC cape for the BBB using the MachineKit software
 that I've made for some of my own projects.  I have extra boards
 available that I can populate if enough people would like to get one
 (I'd like about ten+ orders to make the batch). I'd like to get $16.00
 for a board (without cape ID eeprom) or $18.00 for a board (with
 eeprom, but unprogrammed)  More information can be found here:
 
 http://.beaglecnc.com/
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeff
 www.xylotex.com

Hi Jeff, long time no contact.  And I am glad that it appears there will be 
some competition in this.  Bookmarked FFR.

Thank you.
 
 
 
  From: ghesk...@wdtv.com
  To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:32:19 -0400
  Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
  
  On Thursday 10 October 2013 19:31:06 Alex Joni did opine:
  Something like this http://imagebin.org/273328 ?
  I'm currently working on this, but still travelling till the end of
  the week. I'll post an info update at the end of the week about
  current status, and future plans.
  
  Regards,
  Alex
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Keller
  Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:03 PM
  To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
  
  On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Charles Steinkuehler
  
  char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
  The BeagleBone stuff is still developing. You basically needed a
  cape that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape
  like this one:
  
  http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/
  
  I wonder how far out to when we can actually buy this board is? I
  could not find any links that had an asking price.
  
  That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
  disappeared. Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
  db25 part without a RAMPS.
  
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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Ralph Stirling
Looks great, Jeff.  I'd be happy to paypal you $40 for two of
them.  I would like to run a Mesa 7I43 from the BBB with one
if hostmot2 can be made to run on it.

-- Ralph

From: Jeff Pollard [xylo...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:09 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.

Hi,

  I also have a LinuxCNC cape for the BBB using the MachineKit software that 
I've made for some of my own projects.  I have extra boards available that I 
can populate if enough people would like to get one (I'd like about ten+ orders 
to make the batch). I'd like to get $16.00 for a board (without cape ID eeprom) 
or $18.00 for a board (with eeprom, but unprogrammed)  More information can be 
found here:

http://.beaglecnc.com/

Thanks,

Jeff
www.xylotex.com


 From: ghesk...@wdtv.com
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:32:19 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.

 On Thursday 10 October 2013 19:31:06 Alex Joni did opine:

 Something like this http://imagebin.org/273328 ?
 I'm currently working on this, but still travelling till the end of the
 week. I'll post an info update at the end of the week about current
 status, and future plans.

 Regards,
 Alex


 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Keller
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:03 PM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.

 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Charles Steinkuehler

 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 The BeagleBone stuff is still developing. You basically needed a cape
 that at the time didn't exist, a BBB to parallel-port cape like this
 one:

 http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2013/09/cnc-translator-for-beaglebone/

 I wonder how far out to when we can actually buy this board is? I could
 not find any links that had an asking price.

 That is the BBB cnc hardware version of trolling, he posted that and
 disappeared. Would be nice to be able to get a board just to use the
 db25 part without a RAMPS.

 
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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Careful...this is not a PC parallel port.  At the moment, there is no
software to talk to anything like a Mesa 7143 via an emulated EPP port
via the BeagleBone.  That doesn't mean I wouldn't _like_ to see
something like this.  I actually have plans to do this at some point,
but it will almost certainly require a different pinout and a different
circuit board.

The step/dir GPIO pins can be pretty much randomly assigned to any free
pin, but implementing an emulated EPP interafce to talk to smart
hardware requires a bit more planning.

On 10/10/2013 7:27 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote:
 Looks great, Jeff.  I'd be happy to paypal you $40 for two of
 them.  I would like to run a Mesa 7I43 from the BBB with one
 if hostmot2 can be made to run on it.
 
 -- Ralph
 
 From: Jeff Pollard [xylo...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:09 PM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
 
 Hi,
 
   I also have a LinuxCNC cape for the BBB using the MachineKit software that 
 I've made for some of my own projects.  I have extra boards available that I 
 can populate if enough people would like to get one (I'd like about ten+ 
 orders to make the batch). I'd like to get $16.00 for a board (without cape 
 ID eeprom) or $18.00 for a board (with eeprom, but unprogrammed)  More 
 information can be found here:
 
 http://.beaglecnc.com/
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeff
 www.xylotex.com


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Re: [Emc-users] BBB LinuxCNC.

2013-10-10 Thread Condit Alan
I am kind of like Ralph. I also have a Mesa 7i43 that I would like to be able 
to run from a BBB. It would be great if there was a cape that could look like 
an EPP with a driver that could run hostmot2.

I have one machine that I am going to try to run from the BBB + BeBoPr + 
Bridge. But eventually I would like to use my 7i43 with a BBB or, if Pete comes 
up with the equivalent of a 5i25 for the BBB, sell my 7i43 and the two 7i42TAs 
that I have.

Alan

On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:53 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

 From: Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
 Date: October 10, 2013 5:27:13 PM PDT
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\) 
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 
 
 Looks great, Jeff.  I'd be happy to paypal you $40 for two of
 them.  I would like to run a Mesa 7I43 from the BBB with one
 if hostmot2 can be made to run on it.
 
 -- Ralph
 
 From: Jeff Pollard [xylo...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:09 PM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BBB  LinuxCNC.
 
 Hi,
 
  I also have a LinuxCNC cape for the BBB using the MachineKit software that 
 I've made for some of my own projects.  I have extra boards available that I 
 can populate if enough people would like to get one (I'd like about ten+ 
 orders to make the batch). I'd like to get $16.00 for a board (without cape 
 ID eeprom) or $18.00 for a board (with eeprom, but unprogrammed)  More 
 information can be found here:
 
 http://.beaglecnc.com/
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeff
 www.xylotex.com
 

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