[Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
Oh. Maybe now I understand...
I only posted the word 'link' with the URL embedded, but when I see replies
to my post, for some reason the embed has disappeared and one sees the
long, original URL


On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 21:50, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Wednesday 20 February 2019 13:02:59 Roland Jollivet wrote:
>
> > Why doesn't everyone just insert a link
> >  >is_60343603384.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.37.3701292eTmjk5p>?
> > Super easy.
> >
> And it worked!
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-20 Thread John Dammeyer
To make that long URL for me I have to first edit the message with Outlook 
2010.  Change it to HTML.  Save and then hit reply.  Doing that keeps it 
intact.  Doing a reply while it's plain text inserts max line length to about 
76 characters.  I've changed the parameter for Outlook that is supposed to fix 
that but it doesn't seem to work.
 
So I guess if I do post a long link I need to make sure I'm doing this with 
HTML.
 
BTW, Chris, what are you doing with the small module?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=stm32f103+us+ship 

 
&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=90278-4045&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_fosrp=1
 
John
 
 
From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: February-20-19 11:05 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder 
dilemma, open request for comments
 
Yes, easy, but on my end, I saw 100+ characters of unreadable stuff that
line-wrapped multiple times.  The example below point to the same web page.
  Perhaps some of you see that same multiple unreadable lines?
 
Perhaps some of you might like to see the kind of machine controllers

that are popular in China.
 
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:05 AM Roland Jollivet 
wrote:
 
> Why doesn't everyone just insert a link
> <
> https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Low-cost-New-Product-3Axis-4Axis_60343603384.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.37.3701292eTmjk5p
> >?
> Super easy.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 02:01, John Dammeyer 
> wrote:
> 
> > What I do with long URLs  (outlook 2010) is edit the email message.  I
> > select 'Actions' and then 'Edit Message'.  At that point I can turn the
> > multi-line URL back into one long line.  Add an ENTER key at the end of
> the
> > line and the text highlighting even changes back to blue for the URL.
> Then
> > save the email as edited and click on the link.  Takes longer to describe
> > than to do.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Christiansen [mailto:dva...@internode.on.net]
> > > Sent: February-19-19 3:22 PM
> > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC
> > builder
> > > dilemma, open request for comments
> > >
> > > On 19.02.19 07:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Monday 18 February 2019 23:57:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of
> > > > > the screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one
> > > > > works here.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Erik
> > > > >
> > > > Didn't try it there. Into the address box, it failed. Anyplace it
> took
> > > > the paste, it did a google search, and failed.
> > >
> > > It works if I paste in the window _outside_ the address box, which
> still
> > > seems to need a one-piece URL. (So I don't use that for pasting any
> > > more, only hand typing.)
> > >
> > > Erik
> > >
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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 20 February 2019 13:02:59 Roland Jollivet wrote:

> Why doesn't everyone just insert a link
> is_60343603384.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.37.3701292eTmjk5p>?
> Super easy.
>
And it worked!


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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-20 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, easy, but on my end, I saw 100+ characters of unreadable stuff that
line-wrapped multiple times.  The example below point to the same web page.
  Perhaps some of you see that same multiple unreadable lines?

Perhaps some of you might like to see the kind of machine controllers

that are popular in China.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:05 AM Roland Jollivet 
wrote:

> Why doesn't everyone just insert a link
> <
> https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Low-cost-New-Product-3Axis-4Axis_60343603384.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.37.3701292eTmjk5p
> >?
> Super easy.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 02:01, John Dammeyer 
> wrote:
>
> > What I do with long URLs  (outlook 2010) is edit the email message.  I
> > select 'Actions' and then 'Edit Message'.  At that point I can turn the
> > multi-line URL back into one long line.  Add an ENTER key at the end of
> the
> > line and the text highlighting even changes back to blue for the URL.
> Then
> > save the email as edited and click on the link.  Takes longer to describe
> > than to do.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Christiansen [mailto:dva...@internode.on.net]
> > > Sent: February-19-19 3:22 PM
> > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC
> > builder
> > > dilemma, open request for comments
> > >
> > > On 19.02.19 07:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Monday 18 February 2019 23:57:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of
> > > > > the screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one
> > > > > works here.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Erik
> > > > >
> > > > Didn't try it there. Into the address box, it failed. Anyplace it
> took
> > > > the paste, it did a google search, and failed.
> > >
> > > It works if I paste in the window _outside_ the address box, which
> still
> > > seems to need a one-piece URL. (So I don't use that for pasting any
> > > more, only hand typing.)
> > >
> > > Erik
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-20 Thread Chris Albertson
About these long URLs,   It depends entirely on the reader's software and
you have no control over what people use.  Some people might even be people
using 15-year-old Windows  XT system.  And many others use Android phones.
  You just can't know.

The technique that works for the most number of readers is to shorten the
URL by using some forwarding service like tinyurl.com
or do what I just did with the above link.   Send the message in HTML, not
plain text.   Then HTML allows you to display the text of a link using
different text then the URL.  So, for example, I have posted the above
link like this: Tiny URL  and it goes to the same
place.

Here is a particularly nasty URL for some parts I bought recently
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=stm32f103+us+ship&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=90278-4045&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_fosrp=1

The link below may look better for most readers.  I converted the above
link to GRAMETRICAL ENGLISH.   This is a better form, well it is if your
reader supports HTML links and as I said I can't control that.  You may not
care about the part I link to, just an example of how to best tame ugly
URLs.

Hi, I've been using this little part
in
most of my new designs whenever The price is right and it is very versatile
and reliable.

I suggest doing the above as it results in the best readability.





On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 6:57 PM Erik Christiansen 
wrote:

> On 18.02.19 16:52, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > unforch, John, you did not surround this link with a pair of<> which
> > would have preserved its validity even if it had been 2k chars long, but
> > alibaba, rather than leaving half of it displayed so we can manually
> > copy/paste the rest of it, has to be cute and replace it all with their
> > custom 404 message. And even after I fixed it, it still goes to a google
> > listing. And none of them goto that particular machine.
>
> On 18.02.19 14:39, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > I still had to edit the text into one line
> > However if you google this: " ? alibaba Low-cost-New-Product-3Axis->
> 4Axis "
> > it will bring up the link.
>
> The original two-chunk URL works fine for me on iceweasel (so firefox
> too), just by highlighting the two lines and pasting anywhere in the
> browser window. To do that, just:
>
> Put about:config in the URL box, scroll to  middlemouse.contentLoadURL, and
> click to toggle it to true. Now a URL highlighted in an xterm can be pasted
> to firefox (and opened) with one middlemouse click - even if it has a
> spurious space/line-break in it.
>
> That's miniscule effort for endless ease henceforth. It's the very best
> tweak my browser has had, saving a pile of sweat over the years. (Picked
> it up from John L. Fjellstad - can't remember which list.)
>
> Erik
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[Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
Why doesn't everyone just insert a link
?
Super easy.



On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 02:01, John Dammeyer  wrote:

> What I do with long URLs  (outlook 2010) is edit the email message.  I
> select 'Actions' and then 'Edit Message'.  At that point I can turn the
> multi-line URL back into one long line.  Add an ENTER key at the end of the
> line and the text highlighting even changes back to blue for the URL.  Then
> save the email as edited and click on the link.  Takes longer to describe
> than to do.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Christiansen [mailto:dva...@internode.on.net]
> > Sent: February-19-19 3:22 PM
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC
> builder
> > dilemma, open request for comments
> >
> > On 19.02.19 07:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 18 February 2019 23:57:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of
> > > > the screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one
> > > > works here.)
> > > >
> > > > Erik
> > > >
> > > Didn't try it there. Into the address box, it failed. Anyplace it took
> > > the paste, it did a google search, and failed.
> >
> > It works if I paste in the window _outside_ the address box, which still
> > seems to need a one-piece URL. (So I don't use that for pasting any
> > more, only hand typing.)
> >
> > Erik
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-19 Thread Martin Dobbins


tinyurl.com


Martin

From: John Dammeyer 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 5:59 PM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder 
dilemma, open request for comments

What I do with long URLs  (outlook 2010) is edit the email message.  I
select 'Actions' and then 'Edit Message'.  At that point I can turn the
multi-line URL back into one long line.  Add an ENTER key at the end of the
line and the text highlighting even changes back to blue for the URL.  Then
save the email as edited and click on the link.  Takes longer to describe
than to do.

John




> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Christiansen [mailto:dva...@internode.on.net]
> Sent: February-19-19 3:22 PM
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC
builder
> dilemma, open request for comments
>
> On 19.02.19 07:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 18 February 2019 23:57:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> >
> > > On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
> > >
> > > And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of
> > > the screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one
> > > works here.)
> > >
> > > Erik
> > >
> > Didn't try it there. Into the address box, it failed. Anyplace it took
> > the paste, it did a google search, and failed.
>
> It works if I paste in the window _outside_ the address box, which still
> seems to need a one-piece URL. (So I don't use that for pasting any
> more, only hand typing.)
>
> Erik
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-19 Thread John Dammeyer
What I do with long URLs  (outlook 2010) is edit the email message.  I
select 'Actions' and then 'Edit Message'.  At that point I can turn the
multi-line URL back into one long line.  Add an ENTER key at the end of the
line and the text highlighting even changes back to blue for the URL.  Then
save the email as edited and click on the link.  Takes longer to describe
than to do.

John




> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Christiansen [mailto:dva...@internode.on.net]
> Sent: February-19-19 3:22 PM
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC
builder
> dilemma, open request for comments
> 
> On 19.02.19 07:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 18 February 2019 23:57:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> >
> > > On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
> > >
> > > And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of
> > > the screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one
> > > works here.)
> > >
> > > Erik
> > >
> > Didn't try it there. Into the address box, it failed. Anyplace it took
> > the paste, it did a google search, and failed.
> 
> It works if I paste in the window _outside_ the address box, which still
> seems to need a one-piece URL. (So I don't use that for pasting any
> more, only hand typing.)
> 
> Erik
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 19.02.19 07:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 18 February 2019 23:57:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> 
> > On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
> >
> > And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of
> > the screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one
> > works here.)
> >
> > Erik
> >
> Didn't try it there. Into the address box, it failed. Anyplace it took 
> the paste, it did a google search, and failed.

It works if I paste in the window _outside_ the address box, which still
seems to need a one-piece URL. (So I don't use that for pasting any
more, only hand typing.)

Erik


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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 February 2019 23:57:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
>
> And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of
> the screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one
> works here.)
>
> Erik
>
Didn't try it there. Into the address box, it failed. Anyplace it took 
the paste, it did a google search, and failed.
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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.02.19 22:47, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)

And it didn't take the lumpy URL when pasted whack in the middle of the
screen? (Dunno that I have any other magic settings. That one works
here.)

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Re: [Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 18 February 2019 21:55:06 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 18.02.19 16:52, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > unforch, John, you did not surround this link with a pair of<> which
> > would have preserved its validity even if it had been 2k chars long,
> > but alibaba, rather than leaving half of it displayed so we can
> > manually copy/paste the rest of it, has to be cute and replace it
> > all with their custom 404 message. And even after I fixed it, it
> > still goes to a google listing. And none of them goto that
> > particular machine.
>
> On 18.02.19 14:39, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > I still had to edit the text into one line
> > However if you google this: " ? alibaba Low-cost-New-Product-3Axis->
> > 4Axis " it will bring up the link.
>
> The original two-chunk URL works fine for me on iceweasel (so firefox
> too), just by highlighting the two lines and pasting anywhere in the
> browser window. To do that, just:
>
> Put about:config in the URL box, scroll to 
> middlemouse.contentLoadURL, and click to toggle it to true. Now a URL
> highlighted in an xterm can be pasted to firefox (and opened) with one
> middlemouse click - even if it has a spurious space/line-break in it.
>
> That's miniscule effort for endless ease henceforth. It's the very
> best tweak my browser has had, saving a pile of sweat over the years.
> (Picked it up from John L. Fjellstad - can't remember which list.)
>
> Erik
>
Already set true here Erik. Next? ;-)
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[Emc-users] Easy use of a 2 line URL [Was: Re: DIY CNC builder dilemma, open request for comments

2019-02-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.02.19 16:52, Gene Heskett wrote:
> unforch, John, you did not surround this link with a pair of<> which 
> would have preserved its validity even if it had been 2k chars long, but 
> alibaba, rather than leaving half of it displayed so we can manually 
> copy/paste the rest of it, has to be cute and replace it all with their 
> custom 404 message. And even after I fixed it, it still goes to a google 
> listing. And none of them goto that particular machine.

On 18.02.19 14:39, John Dammeyer wrote:
> I still had to edit the text into one line 
> However if you google this: " ? alibaba Low-cost-New-Product-3Axis-> 4Axis "
> it will bring up the link.

The original two-chunk URL works fine for me on iceweasel (so firefox
too), just by highlighting the two lines and pasting anywhere in the
browser window. To do that, just:

Put about:config in the URL box, scroll to  middlemouse.contentLoadURL, and
click to toggle it to true. Now a URL highlighted in an xterm can be pasted
to firefox (and opened) with one middlemouse click - even if it has a
spurious space/line-break in it.

That's miniscule effort for endless ease henceforth. It's the very best
tweak my browser has had, saving a pile of sweat over the years. (Picked
it up from John L. Fjellstad - can't remember which list.)

Erik


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