Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 22:23 -0400, gene heskett wrote: PClos on this quad core phenom. Well, OK, use whatever *PClos* uses for remote desktop sharing... it's not like PClos is some mutant without all the usual Linux stuff tucked away under the hood. linuxcnc runs just fine from its own keyboard, but not from an ssh login Which is why I'm recommending you do something *other* than wrestle with X through SSH: export the whole [mumble] desktop and be done with it. That's stock technology, designed to Just Work. Anything Linux-oid with a package manager should have *something* that speaks VNC to the far end of the network. Set up the milling box to allow desktop sharing with VNC, set up your desktop box to connect with a VNC desktop, and you're done. Modulo, of course, having your network running, which may not be a given at this point. That, alas, is a real swamp... -- Ed http://softsolder.com -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 09:00:25 AM Ed Nisley did opine: On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 22:23 -0400, gene heskett wrote: PClos on this quad core phenom. Well, OK, use whatever *PClos* uses for remote desktop sharing... it's not like PClos is some mutant without all the usual Linux stuff tucked away under the hood. linuxcnc runs just fine from its own keyboard, but not from an ssh login Which is why I'm recommending you do something *other* than wrestle with X through SSH: export the whole [mumble] desktop and be done with it. That's stock technology, designed to Just Work. Anything Linux-oid with a package manager should have *something* that speaks VNC to the far end of the network. Set up the milling box to allow desktop sharing with VNC, set up your desktop box to connect with a VNC desktop, and you're done. Modulo, of course, having your network running, which may not be a given at this point. That, alas, is a real swamp... That will be something to explore, when I get my GMC drivable again. Mech helper Anthony was trying to put the flexplate to torque converter bolts back in last night, using a Torx T-50 in a special, one time use cuz they are coated with red locktite, 10mm .9 thread, 8mm Allan head cap screws reamed 2 of them out. So I'm off on safari this morning, driving the house mouses Toy. looking for a set of those. Just as soon as I get a second cup of coffee to prop the other eye open with. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene Asking a working writer what he thinks about critics is like asking a lamp-post how it feels about dogs. -- Christopher Hampton -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:09:46 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Thursday, March 15, 2012 09:00:25 AM Ed Nisley did opine: On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 22:23 -0400, gene heskett wrote: PClos on this quad core phenom. Well, OK, use whatever *PClos* uses for remote desktop sharing... it's not like PClos is some mutant without all the usual Linux stuff tucked away under the hood. linuxcnc runs just fine from its own keyboard, but not from an ssh login Which is why I'm recommending you do something *other* than wrestle with X through SSH: export the whole [mumble] desktop and be done with it. That's stock technology, designed to Just Work. Anything Linux-oid with a package manager should have *something* that speaks VNC to the far end of the network. Set up the milling box to allow desktop sharing with VNC, set up your desktop box to connect with a VNC desktop, and you're done. Modulo, of course, having your network running, which may not be a given at this point. That, alas, is a real swamp... That will be something to explore, when I get my GMC drivable again. Mech helper Anthony was trying to put the flexplate to torque converter bolts back in last night, using a Torx T-50 in a special, one time use cuz they are coated with red locktite, 10mm .9 thread, 8mm Allan head cap screws reamed 2 of them out. So I'm off on safari this morning, driving the house mouses Toy. looking for a set of those. Just as soon as I get a second cup of coffee to prop the other eye open with. Wimp! Use toothpicks rather than the liquid version. LOFLOL Dave Cheers, Gene -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 02:39:08 PM dave did opine: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:09:46 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Thursday, March 15, 2012 09:00:25 AM Ed Nisley did opine: On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 22:23 -0400, gene heskett wrote: PClos on this quad core phenom. Well, OK, use whatever *PClos* uses for remote desktop sharing... it's not like PClos is some mutant without all the usual Linux stuff tucked away under the hood. linuxcnc runs just fine from its own keyboard, but not from an ssh login Which is why I'm recommending you do something *other* than wrestle with X through SSH: export the whole [mumble] desktop and be done with it. That's stock technology, designed to Just Work. Anything Linux-oid with a package manager should have *something* that speaks VNC to the far end of the network. Set up the milling box to allow desktop sharing with VNC, set up your desktop box to connect with a VNC desktop, and you're done. Modulo, of course, having your network running, which may not be a given at this point. That, alas, is a real swamp... That will be something to explore, when I get my GMC drivable again. Mech helper Anthony was trying to put the flexplate to torque converter bolts back in last night, using a Torx T-50 in a special, one time use cuz they are coated with red locktite, 10mm .9 thread, 8mm Allan head cap screws reamed 2 of them out. So I'm off on safari this morning, driving the house mouses Toy. looking for a set of those. Just as soon as I get a second cup of coffee to prop the other eye open with. Wimp! Use toothpicks rather than the liquid version. LOFLOL Dave I don't trust my eyes around toothpicks, somebody once told me they are sharp. OTOH, I chew up a big box of rounds a year haven't injured myself yet. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene love, n.: When you like to think of someone on days that begin with a morning. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 03:07:04 AM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: [gene@coyote cmds]$ ssh -Y lathe Warning: Permanently added 'lathe,192.168.71.5' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. gene@lathe's password: X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0 Did you try ssh -X? That's what I use. Not sure it can export the open GL window from Axis, however. Then, of course, you need the computer you are on to ALLOW an X session to be opened on it from the remote (EMC) node. On linux, xhost +nodename is what I use. I usually use something like xclock to check that the X session stuff works before trying anything like EMC. Jon I'm not sure what is going on here Jon. First, from the ssh man page: −Y Enables trusted X11 forwarding. Trusted X11 forwardings are not subjected to the X11 SECURITY extension controls. So I have always used the -Y login option. I have executed 'xhost +' which turns off all access controls on this box, enabling anyone to use the X facilities. 2 identical machines, installed from the same cd, one works, one does not. The one that works uses display:10, the newer one that doesn't, tries to use display:0. Someplace on that box, or on this one, is a place to set that, but damnedifIknowwhere. Extensive reading of man pages in the last hour or more haven't even turned on a night light. I'm sure it will be a forehead slapper when I find it. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene Earth is a beta site. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
2 identical machines, installed from the same cd, one works, one does not. The one that works uses display:10, the newer one that doesn't, tries to use display:0. display:10 is normally what I see when I ssh to a remote box. Display:0 is the local machine's monitor/video card. From memory, xhost is the old style security. You need to look at xauth if you are having problems. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:22:45 AM Frank Tkalcevic did opine: 2 identical machines, installed from the same cd, one works, one does not. The one that works uses display:10, the newer one that doesn't, tries to use display:0. display:10 is normally what I see when I ssh to a remote box. Display:0 is the local machine's monitor/video card. From memory, xhost is the old style security. You need to look at xauth if you are having problems. And that man page is as obtuse as any I've seen. I have succeeded in getting it to list whats in the .Xauthority file, but the syntax to 'add' seems beyond the man page writers ability to explain or define. The output of the list command locally would appear to be a 3 line format, with an ipv6 address leading off the middle line in the local file, and the same . generated MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE completing each line. Apparently I have blacklisted enough ipv6 on that machine that only the MAC address is being shown by an ifconfig. Here, an xauth list spits out: [gene@coyote ~]$ xauth list coyote.coyote.den:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 4a42e1926ce6b188504f8b037d05d216 [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 4a42e1926ce6b188504f8b037d05d216 coyote.coyote.den/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 4a42e1926ce6b188504f8b037d05d216 The ipv6 address is what an ifconfig spits out for this machine. Its there but I have no clue if it works. The 'shop' box doesn't have ipv6 disabled, and it shows inet6 addr: fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b/64 Scope:Link in the ifconfig output. A ping6 fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b doesn't work, acts like a syntax error, and of course there is no man page for ping6. Figures... According to 'man ping' there are switches to make it use ipv6 stuff, but when you try them, its all unk host errors. If they want this ipv6 crap to go live about 100 days from now, there is going to be a lot of gored oxen around with the its all a big secret manpages we have now. I have a help request posted to the xorg list, we'll see what they say. In the meantime: Logged into lathe, an xauth list: gene@lathe:~$ xauth list xauth: creating new authority file /home/gene/.Xauthority repeat add infinitum Logged into shop: gene@shop:~$ xauth list coyote.coyote.den/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 b64d0542f0d05ae2e20ce5a7e681aa62 shop/unix:12 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 5291c89d9bdd54e02883c1d3da2b9f6a shop/unix:11 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 371064acbe7290755dc6d65fcd0879a6 shop/unix:10 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 2bed8f9e22ee31afb8da68b713916518 Is there a better tut somewhere than this man page where only Sid Dabster would know how to read? Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene I found Rome a city of bricks and left it a city of marble. -- Augustus Caesar -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On 03/14/2012 11:09 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:07:29 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 03/14/2012 05:19 AM, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: 2 identical machines, installed from the same cd, one works, one does not. The one that works uses display:10, the newer one that doesn't, tries to use display:0. display:10 is normally what I see when I ssh to a remote box. Display:0 is the local machine's monitor/video card. From memory, xhost is the old style security. You need to look at xauth if you are having problems. Also make sure X11Forwarding is set to yes in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. Mark It is Mark, apparently the default. From that file: X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 Looks legit to me. Cheers, Gene Okay, then does ssh -X hostname work? I know you like the -Y qualifier, but... ;-) Mark -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:33:06 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 03/14/2012 11:09 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:07:29 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 03/14/2012 05:19 AM, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: 2 identical machines, installed from the same cd, one works, one does not. The one that works uses display:10, the newer one that doesn't, tries to use display:0. display:10 is normally what I see when I ssh to a remote box. Display:0 is the local machine's monitor/video card. From memory, xhost is the old style security. You need to look at xauth if you are having problems. Also make sure X11Forwarding is set to yes in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. Mark It is Mark, apparently the default. From that file: X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 Looks legit to me. Cheers, Gene Okay, then does ssh -X hostname work? I know you like the -Y qualifier, but... ;-) Mark No. Same error: [gene@coyote ~]$ ssh -X lathe gene@lathe's password: X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0 I need to get to it, a phone call managed to dislodge a dipstick tube from the bowels of fedex just now, that was shipped overnight monday. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene The Ancient Doctrine of Mind Over Matter: I don't mind... and you don't matter. -- As revealed to reporter G. Rivera by Swami Havabanana -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On 3/14/2012 11:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: The ipv6 address is what an ifconfig spits out for this machine. Its there but I have no clue if it works. The 'shop' box doesn't have ipv6 disabled, and it shows inet6 addr: fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b/64 Scope:Link in the ifconfig output. A ping6 fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b doesn't work, acts like a syntax error, and of course there is no man page for ping6. Figures... According to 'man ping' there are switches to make it use ipv6 stuff, but when you try them, its all unk host errors. If they want this ipv6 crap to go live about 100 days from now, there is going to be a lot of gored oxen around with the its all a big secret manpages we have now. Gene: I truly sympathize because I've also been in situations where everything I did seemed to make things worse, but I think this is overreacting to IPv6. My recent Linux/Windows installs have all added IPv6 interfaces as shown by ifconfig (renamed ipconfig in Windows, thanks to some MS-dweb) even though I'm not setting up IPv6 intentionally. I agree the documentation is sorry but when was that not the case with Unix/Linux? Let the LinuxCNC author without sin cast the first stone regarding documentation. Still, my hosts all just work. As a latest for instance: I just installed LinHES (MythTV on ArchLinux) on a host in the basement on the wired-LAN side of a wireless client bridge I created from a Linksys AP running DD-WRT. Running Ubuntu 11.10 inside VirtualBox on a Windows 7 host on the wired-LAN side of a stock wireless AP upstairs, I was immediately able to ssh -Y into the LinHES box without my fingers leaving my hands. (Most of those details are irrelevant other than to show that mixing and matching a bunch of stuff using default settings has worked well enough for me.) Speaking figuratively, I can't help but think that in the process of fixing (in the veterinarian sense) the IPv6 issues on your new host some wires have gotten crossed. My first car (it had fins!) didn't run too well either after I managed to cross several spark plug wires. As soon as Comcast offers IPv6-service to me here in Gaithersburg I expect to test their connectivity. My grandmother liked to say there's many a slip twixt the fork and the lip. I think most of the slips with IPv6 are going to take place twixt us end users and the world. Have you tried running from a LiveCD/LiveUSBStick on whichever host isn't cooperating (coyote, is it?) to see if at least the basic distribution works? Truth in advertising: Sometimes I'm brilliantly correct. Sometimes I'm spectacularly incorrect. Mostly I just muddle through, but I always sound like I know what I'm talking about. Regards, Kent PS - whenever I get an error message I slap it into my search engine du jour. Surprise---X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0 gets a lot of play. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:04 -0400, gene heskett wrote: And that man page is as obtuse as any I've seen. Rather than hammering that out by hand, use the remote desktop built right into Ubuntu? On the Ubuntu machine attached to the mill, clicky: System - Preferences - Remote Desktop Then select: Allow other users to view your desktop Allow other users to control your desktop Set up the Security section to suit your paranoia. On the Ubuntu machine attached to your Comfy Chair, clicky: Applications - Internet - Remote Desktop Viewer It'll show you a list of what's available on your network, which should include the milling machine. Clicky to select, feed in a password if you set it up that way, blow that window up to full screen, and you're there... Works for me, anyhow. I do pretty nearly all the setup fiddling from the Comfy Chair for both the Sherline Thing-O-Matic, then drop down to the Basement Lab to actually start building things. Not quite so manly as mud-wrestling with X, but ... -- Ed http://softsolder.com -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 06:17:51 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 03/14/2012 11:36 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:33:06 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 03/14/2012 11:09 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:07:29 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 03/14/2012 05:19 AM, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: 2 identical machines, installed from the same cd, one works, one does not. The one that works uses display:10, the newer one that doesn't, tries to use display:0. display:10 is normally what I see when I ssh to a remote box. Display:0 is the local machine's monitor/video card. From memory, xhost is the old style security. You need to look at xauth if you are having problems. Also make sure X11Forwarding is set to yes in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. Mark It is Mark, apparently the default. From that file: X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 Looks legit to me. Cheers, Gene Okay, then does ssh -Xhostname work? I know you like the -Y qualifier, but... ;-) Mark No. Same error: [gene@coyote ~]$ ssh -X lathe gene@lathe's password: X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0 I need to get to it, a phone call managed to dislodge a dipstick tube from the bowels of fedex just now, that was shipped overnight monday. Cheers, Gene Anything in the logs on either machine regarding the failure? Mark Doesn't seem to be, Mark. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene The sweeter the apple, the blacker the core -- Scratch a lover and find a foe! -- Dorothy Parker, Ballad of a Great Weariness -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 07:27:40 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: On 3/14/2012 11:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: The ipv6 address is what an ifconfig spits out for this machine. Its there but I have no clue if it works. The 'shop' box doesn't have ipv6 disabled, and it shows inet6 addr: fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b/64 Scope:Link in the ifconfig output. A ping6 fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b doesn't work, acts like a syntax error, and of course there is no man page for ping6. Figures... According to 'man ping' there are switches to make it use ipv6 stuff, but when you try them, its all unk host errors. If they want this ipv6 crap to go live about 100 days from now, there is going to be a lot of gored oxen around with the its all a big secret manpages we have now. Gene: I truly sympathize because I've also been in situations where everything I did seemed to make things worse, but I think this is overreacting to IPv6. My recent Linux/Windows installs have all added IPv6 interfaces as shown by ifconfig (renamed ipconfig in Windows, thanks to some MS-dweb) even though I'm not setting up IPv6 intentionally. I agree the documentation is sorry but when was that not the case with Unix/Linux? Let the LinuxCNC author without sin cast the first stone regarding documentation. Still, my hosts all just work. As a latest for instance: I just installed LinHES (MythTV on ArchLinux) on a host in the basement on the wired-LAN side of a wireless client bridge I created from a Linksys AP running DD-WRT. Running Ubuntu 11.10 inside VirtualBox on a Windows 7 host on the wired-LAN side of a stock wireless AP upstairs, I was immediately able to ssh -Y into the LinHES box without my fingers leaving my hands. (Most of those details are irrelevant other than to show that mixing and matching a bunch of stuff using default settings has worked well enough for me.) Speaking figuratively, I can't help but think that in the process of fixing (in the veterinarian sense) the IPv6 issues on your new host some wires have gotten crossed. My first car (it had fins!) didn't run too well either after I managed to cross several spark plug wires. As soon as Comcast offers IPv6-service to me here in Gaithersburg I expect to test their connectivity. My grandmother liked to say there's many a slip twixt the fork and the lip. I think most of the slips with IPv6 are going to take place twixt us end users and the world. Have you tried running from a LiveCD/LiveUSBStick on whichever host isn't cooperating (coyote, is it?) to see if at least the basic distribution works? Truth in advertising: Sometimes I'm brilliantly correct. Sometimes I'm spectacularly incorrect. Mostly I just muddle through, but I always sound like I know what I'm talking about. Regards, Kent PS - whenever I get an error message I slap it into my search engine du jour. Surprise---X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0 gets a lot of play. And the third post down had a partial fix, add AddressFamily inet to /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and that error goes away. But linuxcnc -l fails, leaving this in linuxcnc_debug.txt: Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1 Can not find -sec IO -var IO -num 1 Can not find -sec TASK -var TASK_LD_PRELOAD -num 1 Can not find -sec DISPLAY -var DISPLAY_LD_PRELOAD -num 1 Can not find -sec LINUXCNC -var NML_FILE -num 1 Can not find -sec EMC -var NML_FILE -num 1 23359 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 23411 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND Stopping realtime threads Unloading hal components Is there no end to this? Thanks all. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene An entire fraternity of strapping Wall-Street-bound youth. Hell - this is going to be a blood bath! -- Post Bros. Comics -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:09:09 PM Ed Nisley did opine: On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:04 -0400, gene heskett wrote: And that man page is as obtuse as any I've seen. Rather than hammering that out by hand, use the remote desktop built right into Ubuntu? On the Ubuntu machine attached to the mill, clicky: System - Preferences - Remote Desktop Then select: Allow other users to view your desktop Allow other users to control your desktop Set up the Security section to suit your paranoia. On the Ubuntu machine attached to your Comfy Chair, clicky: No ubuntu machine anywhere near the 'Comfy Chair' Ed. PClos on this quad core phenom. Running a newer kernel than the LTS, using the bfs scheduler. Its noticably a snappier desktop than the same kernel using the cfs scheduler. Applications - Internet - Remote Desktop Viewer It'll show you a list of what's available on your network, which should include the milling machine. Clicky to select, feed in a password if you set it up that way, blow that window up to full screen, and you're there... Works for me, anyhow. I do pretty nearly all the setup fiddling from the Comfy Chair for both the Sherline Thing-O-Matic, then drop down to the Basement Lab to actually start building things. Not quite so manly as mud-wrestling with X, but ... Chuckle. I did go check, linuxcnc runs just fine from its own keyboard, but not from an ssh login. This all works tikitti-boo on the mills box. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens. -- Woody Allen -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
gene heskett wrote: I just checked, LinuxCNC will run over an ssh -X connection, but the graphics are MASSIVELY slow. Once the Axis GUI is up, it isn't too bad, but it takes 30 seconds or more for it to come up the first time. The repaint of the 3-D preview takes a couple seconds. Now, one detail is I have Open GL on the computer I am running the session from, I imagine that makes a difference. Touchy or TKEmc would work without Open GL. Basically any computer that has LinuxCNC installed should be able to run a remote version of LinuxCNC over an ssh connection. Otherwise, it would need Open GL to handle the 3-D graphic window from Axis. Jon -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:50:05 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: I just checked, LinuxCNC will run over an ssh -X connection, but the graphics are MASSIVELY slow. Once the Axis GUI is up, it isn't too bad, but it takes 30 seconds or more for it to come up the first time. The repaint of the 3-D preview takes a couple seconds. Now, one detail is I have Open GL on the computer I am running the session from, I imagine that makes a difference. Touchy or TKEmc would work without Open GL. Basically any computer that has LinuxCNC installed should be able to run a remote version of LinuxCNC over an ssh connection. Otherwise, it would need Open GL to handle the 3-D graphic window from Axis. Jon It works just fine, with nice snappy gfx on an identical box that is running the mill. gfx is better and faster than on its own screen. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene brain, n: The apparatus with which we think that we think. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
Hi all; I just ran thru stepconfig and tired to set up for a lathe, but without anything hooked to the parport. When it was time to exercise the axis, it couldn't, broken pipe errors. So I just ran the rest of the way thru it saved it. Then, when I ran it from the created icon, all the limits were wrong, no move possible and I had to fix those in the .ini with gvim. Looking good, with the z running from -.01 on the left to 12 on the right, and the diameter/radius looking good too, I loaded up the pawn file from examples. It is displayed as if zero is on the right limit, and the diameter is all above a radius of zero. If I rotated axis 180 degrees, or better yet, changed the sign of all the values in that file, then it looks as if it fits my vision of how this should look. If I rotate axis 180, then the arrow keys are backwards. Call this newbie to a lathe in axis confused... So which is correct? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene If built in great numbers, motels will be used for nothing but illegal purposes. -- J. Edgar Hoover -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
FWIW, Yesterday, on the DIY-CNC forum a user reported a broken pipes error while running the LinuxCNC Stepper Configuration software. I checked on the IRC and a fellow said he saw that error occur when he was running the latency test at the same time.The guy on the DIY-CNC forum said that was the problem that was causing the broken pipes error on his system. Dave On 3/13/2012 4:22 PM, gene heskett wrote: Hi all; I just ran thru stepconfig and tired to set up for a lathe, but without anything hooked to the parport. When it was time to exercise the axis, it couldn't, broken pipe errors. So I just ran the rest of the way thru it saved it. Then, when I ran it from the created icon, all the limits were wrong, no move possible and I had to fix those in the .ini with gvim. Looking good, with the z running from -.01 on the left to 12 on the right, and the diameter/radius looking good too, I loaded up the pawn file from examples. It is displayed as if zero is on the right limit, and the diameter is all above a radius of zero. If I rotated axis 180 degrees, or better yet, changed the sign of all the values in that file, then it looks as if it fits my vision of how this should look. If I rotate axis 180, then the arrow keys are backwards. Call this newbie to a lathe in axis confused... So which is correct? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 08:34:52 PM Dave did opine: FWIW, Yesterday, on the DIY-CNC forum a user reported a broken pipes error while running the LinuxCNC Stepper Configuration software. I checked on the IRC and a fellow said he saw that error occur when he was running the latency test at the same time.The guy on the DIY-CNC forum said that was the problem that was causing the broken pipes error on his system. Latency-test had not been started by me, it was started by stepconfig, but I closed it when I realized I hadn't yet turned off hyperthreading in the bios. So it shouldn't have been running. One thing I haven't found yet, perhaps it isn't even installed, is where to start sshd. I've limp out and check on both as I haven't installed gkrellm yet either. Dave On 3/13/2012 4:22 PM, gene heskett wrote: Hi all; I just ran thru stepconfig and tired to set up for a lathe, but without anything hooked to the parport. When it was time to exercise the axis, it couldn't, broken pipe errors. So I just ran the rest of the way thru it saved it. Then, when I ran it from the created icon, all the limits were wrong, no move possible and I had to fix those in the .ini with gvim. Looking good, with the z running from -.01 on the left to 12 on the right, and the diameter/radius looking good too, I loaded up the pawn file from examples. It is displayed as if zero is on the right limit, and the diameter is all above a radius of zero. If I rotated axis 180 degrees, or better yet, changed the sign of all the values in that file, then it looks as if it fits my vision of how this should look. If I rotate axis 180, then the arrow keys are backwards. Call this newbie to a lathe in axis confused... So which is correct? No comment on this, guys? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene Are [Linux users] lemmings collectively jumping off of the cliff of reliable, well-engineered commercial software? (By Matt Welsh) -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis
gene heskett wrote: One thing I haven't found yet, perhaps it isn't even installed, is where to start sshd. That should be easy : sudo apt-get install sshd give user password Jon -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
