Re: [Emc-users] seasons greetings

[Leonardo Marsaglia]

Feliz navidad para todos ustedes! (Merry Christmas to all of you).

As always thanks for tour support!!
El dic. 25, 2015 2:15 PM, "joseph perry"  escribió:

> So glad to hear that Gene. Like your quote too. Merry Christmas!
> On Dec 24, 2015 8:21 PM, "Gene Heskett"  wrote:
>
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > Its that time of the year again, and there not a PC bone in my body, so
> >
> > Merry Christmas everyone!
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] seasons greetings

[joseph perry]

So glad to hear that Gene. Like your quote too. Merry Christmas!
On Dec 24, 2015 8:21 PM, "Gene Heskett"  wrote:

> Greetings all;
>
> Its that time of the year again, and there not a PC bone in my body, so
>
> Merry Christmas everyone!
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] seasons greetings

[Reggie Crane]

Merry Christmas!

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015, 10:34 PM Jim Craig 
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> Merry Christmas Gene and everyone else.On Dec 24, 2015 10:17 PM, Gene
> Heskett  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > Its that time of the year again, and there not a PC bone in my body, so
> >
> > Merry Christmas everyone!
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] seasons greetings

[Robert Ellenberg]

Merry Christmas all!

https://youtu.be/qEvQLxwp3-A

On Fri, Dec 25, 2015, 9:09 AM Reggie Crane  wrote:

> Merry Christmas!
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015, 10:34 PM Jim Craig 
> wrote:
>
> > Merry Christmas Gene and everyone else.On Dec 24, 2015 10:17 PM, Gene
> > Heskett  wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings all;
> > >
> > > Its that time of the year again, and there not a PC bone in my body, so
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas everyone!
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] seasons greetings

[TJoseph Powderly]

Merry Christmas to all, and special thanks for all the work.

tomp tjtr33

On 12/25/2015 09:10 AM, Robert Ellenberg wrote:
> Merry Christmas all!
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> https://youtu.be/qEvQLxwp3-A
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Re: [Emc-users] seasons greetings

[rick]

Same to you Gene, and everyone else, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to 
everyone,  

Hopefully  everyone has a healthy and prosperous new year as well. 

Rick 


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Date: Thu, December 24, 2015 11:17 pm
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Greetings all;

Its that time of the year again, and there not a PC bone in my body, so

Merry Christmas everyone!

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[Emc-users] seasons greetings

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

Its that time of the year again, and there not a PC bone in my body, so

Merry Christmas everyone!

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] seasons greetings

[Jim Craig]

Merry Christmas Gene and everyone else.On Dec 24, 2015 10:17 PM, Gene Heskett 
 wrote:
>
> Greetings all; 
>
> Its that time of the year again, and there not a PC bone in my body, so 
>
> Merry Christmas everyone! 
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett 
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[dave]

On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 15:38 -0500, Dave wrote:
 Air source heat pumps are common in Indiana and we are colder than Missouri!
 
 I have a ground water heat pump - open loop. Dumps into a pond in my 
 front yard.
 
 I'd go with two wells and draw from one and pump into the other if I was 
 to do it from scratch.
 
 Permits are no big deal in Indiana.   In fact I could probably drill a 
 well without one here.
 
 Heating my house is really cheap..
 
 Dave
 

OK so I'm green with envy. When I built my house 25 years ago I went
with propane. Propane and electricity are a toss up now depending on
what price you can get your propane for. I still do hot water with
propane. There just ain't no free lunchbut I keep looking. ;-)

Dave
 On 3/31/2013 1:19 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
  --- On Sun, 3/31/13, Jon Elsonel...@pico-systems.com  wrote:
 
 
  From: Jon Elsonel...@pico-systems.com
   
 
  An air-source heat pump, in IDAHO???  Are you
  NUTS?  ground-source is good,
  but even in Missouri, air-sourced heat pumps don't do so
  well.
 
  Jon
   
  Wanted a closed loop water to air but the permitting process is insane. 
  Even more insane is the open loop type that wastes water requires no 
  special permit. So went with a 16 SEER Trane air to air. It'll work down to 
  20 degrees F.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[dave]

On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 18:10 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Sunday 31 March 2013 18:08:26 Erik Christiansen did opine:
 
  On 31.03.13 11:22, Peter Blodow wrote:
   Best wishes and happy Easter Holidays to all of you from snow-ridden
   Bavaria!
  
  Danke, gleichfalls!
  
  Happy Easter from down under, where the end of a week and a half between
  30آ°C (86آ°F) and 36آ°C (99آ°F) here in the middle of the first month of
  autumn (fall) was pretty much welcome. (Easy for me to say. With 12
  cubic metres of firewood stacked under cover, I'm even ready if some of
  that northern hemisphere snow finds its way down here. Though I'd race
  for the camera if it ever did snow here, even at 600 ft altitude.)
  
  Hoping that the extra chocolate rations help to stave off the cold up
  there. (Sorry, Gene - you're probably not allowed a lot of that.)
 
 I eat half a block (an ounce) of unsweetened a day. Chocolate, without the 
 sugar, is actually good for a lot of things that can ail one.  Box of 
 Baker's sitting within reach right now.  :)
GI Periwinkel translated from a childrens book as Good idea
Periwinkle
I succumb to the extra dark from time to time. 

Dave
  
  Erik
 
 
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[Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

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Best wishes and happy Easter Holidays to all of you from snow-ridden 
Bavaria!

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

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On 31.03.13 11:22, Peter Blodow wrote:
 Best wishes and happy Easter Holidays to all of you from snow-ridden 
 Bavaria!

Danke, gleichfalls!

Happy Easter from down under, where the end of a week and a half between
30°C (86°F) and 36°C (99°F) here in the middle of the first month of
autumn (fall) was pretty much welcome. (Easy for me to say. With 12 cubic
metres of firewood stacked under cover, I'm even ready if some of that
northern hemisphere snow finds its way down here. Though I'd race for
the camera if it ever did snow here, even at 600 ft altitude.)

Hoping that the extra chocolate rations help to stave off the cold up
there. (Sorry, Gene - you're probably not allowed a lot of that.)

Erik

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

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--- On Sun, 3/31/13, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Danke, gleichfalls!
 
 Happy Easter from down under, where the end of a week and a
 half between
 30°C (86°F) and 36°C (99°F) here in the middle of the
 first month of
 autumn (fall) was pretty much welcome. (Easy for me to say.
 With 12 cubic
 metres of firewood stacked under cover, I'm even ready if
 some of that
 northern hemisphere snow finds its way down here. Though I'd
 race for
 the camera if it ever did snow here, even at 600 ft
 altitude.)

Here in Weiser, Idaho, we had three weeks this winter where it didn't get up to 
freezing. When the 'high' is 23F and it feels warm... The electric bill was 
extra high that month because there was nothing for the heat pump to wring out 
of the air so the emergency backup resistance (which wasn't futile) heater ran 
almost constantly.

The last time we had such a cold spell was 1996. It finally broke on January 
1st, 1997 with a sudden warming and lots of rain in the mountains. Warm temps + 
rain plus a confluence of two frozen rivers (the Weiser and the Snake) = really 
big flood. Fortunately my place is on the high side of the river. If the water 
ever gets this high, everything from here to Ontario, Oregon would be under 
water and I'd be looking for an ark.

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

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Happy Easter to you too, from New Hampshire.  Lovely end to a pleasant winter.

N. Christopher Perry

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Jon Elson]

Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 Here in Weiser, Idaho, we had three weeks this winter where it didn't get up 
 to freezing. When the 'high' is 23F and it feels warm... The electric bill 
 was extra high that month because there was nothing for the heat pump to 
 wring out of the air so the emergency backup resistance (which wasn't futile) 
 heater ran almost constantly.
   
An air-source heat pump, in IDAHO???  Are you NUTS?  ground-source is good,
but even in Missouri, air-sourced heat pumps don't do so well.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[dave]

On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 11:30 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
 Gregg Eshelman wrote:
  Here in Weiser, Idaho, we had three weeks this winter where it didn't get 
  up to freezing. When the 'high' is 23F and it feels warm... The electric 
  bill was extra high that month because there was nothing for the heat pump 
  to wring out of the air so the emergency backup resistance (which wasn't 
  futile) heater ran almost constantly.

 An air-source heat pump, in IDAHO???  Are you NUTS?  ground-source is good,
 but even in Missouri, air-sourced heat pumps don't do so well.
 
 Jon
 
He probably uses it in cooling mode more that heating. His weather is
only a bit cooler than here ... but we have a lot of 0 C to 5 C days. 

Dave

About 10 mi S of me is some geothermal and those guys really clean
up. :-)
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

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--- On Sun, 3/31/13, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com

 An air-source heat pump, in IDAHO???  Are you
 NUTS?  ground-source is good,
 but even in Missouri, air-sourced heat pumps don't do so
 well.
 
 Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Stephen Dubovsky]

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 An air-source heat pump, in IDAHO???  Are you NUTS?



Depends.  Like CNC revolutionized machining, inverters drives have
revolutionized heat pumps.  Inverter units like mitsubisi's hyper-heat
keep full heating capacity down to -15C (+5F).  So an OLD air-source heat
pump in idaho might be a little nuts, but a new one can work fine and save
a lot of money over electric heat.

SMD
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Dave]

Air source heat pumps are common in Indiana and we are colder than Missouri!

I have a ground water heat pump - open loop. Dumps into a pond in my 
front yard.

I'd go with two wells and draw from one and pump into the other if I was 
to do it from scratch.

Permits are no big deal in Indiana.   In fact I could probably drill a 
well without one here.

Heating my house is really cheap..

Dave

On 3/31/2013 1:19 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 --- On Sun, 3/31/13, Jon Elsonel...@pico-systems.com  wrote:


 From: Jon Elsonel...@pico-systems.com
  

 An air-source heat pump, in IDAHO???  Are you
 NUTS?  ground-source is good,
 but even in Missouri, air-sourced heat pumps don't do so
 well.

 Jon
  
 Wanted a closed loop water to air but the permitting process is insane. Even 
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 degrees F.

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

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On Sunday 31 March 2013 18:06:25 Peter Blodow did opine:

 Best wishes and happy Easter Holidays to all of you from snow-ridden
 Bavaria!
 
 Peter
 
Thank you Peter, and back at you with similar wishes.  No snow here in WV, 
but we are getting some very badly needed rain.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 31 March 2013 18:08:26 Erik Christiansen did opine:

 On 31.03.13 11:22, Peter Blodow wrote:
  Best wishes and happy Easter Holidays to all of you from snow-ridden
  Bavaria!
 
 Danke, gleichfalls!
 
 Happy Easter from down under, where the end of a week and a half between
 30آ°C (86آ°F) and 36آ°C (99آ°F) here in the middle of the first month of
 autumn (fall) was pretty much welcome. (Easy for me to say. With 12
 cubic metres of firewood stacked under cover, I'm even ready if some of
 that northern hemisphere snow finds its way down here. Though I'd race
 for the camera if it ever did snow here, even at 600 ft altitude.)
 
 Hoping that the extra chocolate rations help to stave off the cold up
 there. (Sorry, Gene - you're probably not allowed a lot of that.)

I eat half a block (an ounce) of unsweetened a day. Chocolate, without the 
sugar, is actually good for a lot of things that can ail one.  Box of 
Baker's sitting within reach right now.  :)
 
 Erik


Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings and Xmas gift

[Jason Burton]

Merry Christmas Yann, and happy new year!
On Dec 26, 2012 2:05 AM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi everybody

 Merry Christmas and happy new year from France.

 And for the ones that have a router capable of doing 800x600mm work in
 10mm wood panel , there is a bonus :
 Make a educational christmas present to your child or grand child : a
 birdhouse :)
 Nail and glue free design.

 http://imagebin.org/240634

 Here is the NGC file :

 http://filebin.ca/RJdr6qHEoCt/ok_COMPLET_trous_larges_1passe_0001.ngc



 Le 25/12/2012 14:25, Jim Wilkin a écrit :
  Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
  from Canada.
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings and Xmas gift

[yann jautard]

Hi everybody

Merry Christmas and happy new year from France.

And for the ones that have a router capable of doing 800x600mm work in 
10mm wood panel , there is a bonus :
Make a educational christmas present to your child or grand child : a 
birdhouse :)
Nail and glue free design.

http://imagebin.org/240634

Here is the NGC file :

http://filebin.ca/RJdr6qHEoCt/ok_COMPLET_trous_larges_1passe_0001.ngc



Le 25/12/2012 14:25, Jim Wilkin a écrit :
 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
 from Canada.
   James wilkin

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[Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Jim Wilkin]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
from Canada.
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 25 December 2012 09:11:56 Jim Wilkin did opine:

 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
 from Canada.
   James wilkin

Either my memory is getting poorer (and at my age thats a high probability) 
or this is a name I've not seen here before.

Welcome, and best wishes for the holiday season to you, Sir.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Gabriel Willen]

Merry Christmas everyone hope everyone is healthy, and has a wonderful new
year

Gabe
On Dec 25, 2012 8:17 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 25 December 2012 09:11:56 Jim Wilkin did opine:

  Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
  from Canada.
James wilkin

 Either my memory is getting poorer (and at my age thats a high probability)
 or this is a name I've not seen here before.

 Welcome, and best wishes for the holiday season to you, Sir.

 Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[cogoman]

God Bless us, everyone!

And Merry Christmas to y'all.

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Jason Burton]

To you as well!

Jason
 On Dec 24, 2012 11:36 AM, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote:

 A very Merry Christmas, peaceful holidays and a Happy New Year to all of
 you!

 You all have for another year made my life more interesting and enhanced
 my knowledge a lot, even though I am not directly participating for
 health reasons right now, but being in the community helped me to keep
 up with what's going on. Many thanks to all those who contributed their
 time and engagement to bring LunixCNC forward.

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Jason Burton]

To you as well, and all the other regulars on the list!

Best,
Jason
 On Dec 25, 2012 7:49 AM, Jim Wilkin james.a.wil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
 from Canada.
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Jon Elson]

Peter Blodow wrote:
 A very Merry Christmas, peaceful holidays and a Happy New Year to all of 
 you!
   
Yes, I also want to thank the whole community of LinuxCNC developers, users
and even the occasional gadfly for this incredible project.  Not only is 
is a
business for me, but also something that I use in my own shop.  And, the
original EMC (I) from NIST was what got me into Linux.  I was always
a Unix hater, and still find a number of things that grate on me a bit, but
it gets the job done!  (And, it is a hacker's paradise!  I've always been
a hacker (in the good sense) at heart.)

So, merry Christmas and happy holidays to all, and a VERY good
new year!

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 24 December 2012 14:32:49 Peter Blodow did opine:

 A very Merry Christmas, peaceful holidays and a Happy New Year to all of
 you!
 
 You all have for another year made my life more interesting and enhanced
 my knowledge a lot, even though I am not directly participating for
 health reasons right now, but being in the community helped me to keep
 up with what's going on. Many thanks to all those who contributed their
 time and engagement to bring LinuxCNC forward.
 
 Peter Blodow

What he said. I'll certainly add my +1.  This list is in the top 5% of 
helpful lists I have been subbed to over the last 25 years, and I bow and 
give thanks in everyones direction.

FWIW, I got that spindle tachometer to display a few minutes ago, and I'll 
head for the shop  see how well its calibrated shortly.

Poor health is a bummer Peter, and I hope you get back to 110% quickly.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Don Stanley]

Yes;
A very Merry Christmas, peaceful holidays and a Happy New Year to all of
you!

A special and sincere Thanks to all who contributed to LinuxCNC over the
years. I hope you realize the new Industrial Revolution you have launched,
and realize it's rewards over the next few years.

Thanks
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[Leonardo Marsaglia]

Merry Christmas to everyone! Thank you as always for your good help and
knowledge! I hope everyone around here is ok :).

Best wishes from Argentina!

Leonardo.

2012/12/24 Don Stanley dstanley1...@gmail.com

 Yes;
 A very Merry Christmas, peaceful holidays and a Happy New Year to all of
 you!

 A special and sincere Thanks to all who contributed to LinuxCNC over the
 years. I hope you realize the new Industrial Revolution you have launched,
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 Thanks
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

[jeremy youngs]

+1 also fellas have a great holiday

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia
leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Merry Christmas to everyone! Thank you as always for your good help and
 knowledge! I hope everyone around here is ok :).

 Best wishes from Argentina!

 Leonardo.

 2012/12/24 Don Stanley dstanley1...@gmail.com

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 A very Merry Christmas, peaceful holidays and a Happy New Year to all of
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 Thanks
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