[Emc-users] Simplexmotion servo with integrated controller

2013-08-05 Thread Sven Wesley
New product that has documentation howto set up a step/dir config with
LinuxCNC. Interesting.
http://simplexmotion.com/
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Re: [Emc-users] Simplexmotion servo with integrated controller

2013-08-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 August 2013 12:38, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 New product that has documentation howto set up a step/dir config with
 LinuxCNC. Interesting.
 http://simplexmotion.com/

That does look like quite an interesting system.
I wonder what they are using for position feedback?

Following the link to the shop they are less cheap than I had hoped,
though not unreasonable/

I then followed a link to a video:
http://youtu.be/X_agTiic7XM

I think that they have their proxes wired wrongly. (dim glow all the
time, strong glow when activated).
I had mine like that at first, it is a sign of NPN proxes wired PNP
(or the other way round). Curiously it does still work.

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Re: [Emc-users] Simplexmotion servo with integrated controller

2013-08-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/8/5 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com

 New product that has documentation howto set up a step/dir config with
 LinuxCNC. Interesting.
 http://simplexmotion.com/


This is confusing - they kind of claim that motor and drive is combined in
one package, but then it seems like you still need that hub device.
And looking at manual that it is communicating either through usb or modbus
somehow does not fit together with step/dir signal or anything else I am
used to in LinuxCNC. Am I missing something obvious [again]?

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Re: [Emc-users] Simplexmotion servo with integrated controller

2013-08-05 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/8/5 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com

 On 5 August 2013 12:38, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote:
  New product that has documentation howto set up a step/dir config with
  LinuxCNC. Interesting.
  http://simplexmotion.com/

 That does look like quite an interesting system.
 I wonder what they are using for position feedback?

 Following the link to the shop they are less cheap than I had hoped,
 though not unreasonable/

 I then followed a link to a video:
 http://youtu.be/X_agTiic7XM

 I think that they have their proxes wired wrongly. (dim glow all the
 time, strong glow when activated).
 I had mine like that at first, it is a sign of NPN proxes wired PNP
 (or the other way round). Curiously it does still work.


I think you're correct, good catch. My first reaction is that the proxes
are mounted in a very bad way (malfunction will result in a switch acting
like a hard stop) but that has nothing to do with the motors, it's just bad
mechanical engineering.
The setup is pretty closely priced to the parts I used to use (and those
controllers are really good), then I know what I get. Hard to beat the
experience part of a product.

 @Viesturs, the motors can be controlled directly with step/dir motion. The
hub is not needed.
http://www.simplexmotion.com/documentation/SmApplicationNoteCncMachines01a.pdf

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Re: [Emc-users] Simplexmotion servo with integrated controller

2013-08-05 Thread Steve Stallings
Interesting packaged motor, but I wonder about some
of the design choices. This device uses an outer
rotor PMSM with no provision for air flow nor any
significant conduction path for heat from the coils
to the unit's outer housing. Also the single ended 
bearing arrangement required by an outer rotor
setup are not well suited to side loads. The motor
driver electronics are a nice concept and seem to
be well executed.

Alas the example machine on the web site is running
Mach3, not LinuxCNC and the interface is basic step
and direction in this application.

Steve Stallings


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 From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 7:55 AM
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 On 5 August 2013 12:38, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote:
  New product that has documentation howto set up a step/dir 
 config with
  LinuxCNC. Interesting.
  http://simplexmotion.com/
 
 That does look like quite an interesting system.
 I wonder what they are using for position feedback?
 
 Following the link to the shop they are less cheap than I had hoped,
 though not unreasonable/
 
 I then followed a link to a video:
 http://youtu.be/X_agTiic7XM
 
 I think that they have their proxes wired wrongly. (dim glow all the
 time, strong glow when activated).
 I had mine like that at first, it is a sign of NPN proxes wired PNP
 (or the other way round). Curiously it does still work.
 
 -- 
 atp
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 http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Simplexmotion servo with integrated controller

2013-08-05 Thread Dave
That integrated motor/drive looks very similar to these Animatic smart 
motors..

http://www.animatics.com/

I worked with some of these a few years ago.  They have been around for 
years.  They are pretty slick, but expensive!
I didn't know that Moog bought them up.

Dave


On 8/5/2013 8:37 AM, Steve Stallings wrote:
 Interesting packaged motor, but I wonder about some
 of the design choices. This device uses an outer
 rotor PMSM with no provision for air flow nor any
 significant conduction path for heat from the coils
 to the unit's outer housing. Also the single ended
 bearing arrangement required by an outer rotor
 setup are not well suited to side loads. The motor
 driver electronics are a nice concept and seem to
 be well executed.

 Alas the example machine on the web site is running
 Mach3, not LinuxCNC and the interface is basic step
 and direction in this application.

 Steve Stallings



 -Original Message-
 From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 7:55 AM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Simplexmotion servo with integrated
 controller

 On 5 August 2013 12:38, Sven Wesleysvenne.d...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
 New product that has documentation howto set up a step/dir

 config with
  
 LinuxCNC. Interesting.
 http://simplexmotion.com/

 That does look like quite an interesting system.
 I wonder what they are using for position feedback?

 Following the link to the shop they are less cheap than I had hoped,
 though not unreasonable/

 I then followed a link to a video:
 http://youtu.be/X_agTiic7XM

 I think that they have their proxes wired wrongly. (dim glow all the
 time, strong glow when activated).
 I had mine like that at first, it is a sign of NPN proxes wired PNP
 (or the other way round). Curiously it does still work.

 -- 
 atp
 If you can't fix it, you don't own it.
 http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

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