Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, 5 April 2022 12:57:28 EDT Sam Sokolik wrote:
> wow - I had a hard enough time finding  12mm x 1..  The local hardware
> store actually  had 'jam nuts' in that pitch.  I can't say I have ever
> run across .8  - are you sure? ;)
> 
> sam
> 

That was my first reaction too Sam. Not impossible, but to us in the 
imperial world thats equ to 31.75 tpi. I've got some 50 tpi in my lathe, 
tapered to boot as it was used as a compression nut, worked well but it 
was picky to do on TLM. What amazed me at the time was that the first 
pass at making the screw and 3 nuts worked the first time.  No redo's to 
"get it right".

> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:47 AM dave engvall  
wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A
> > These are new but older and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
> > They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.

That bearing would be the thrust bearing and is likely a dual angular 
contact, one faceing each way so a bit of preload can be applied to get 
rid of all backlash from that bearing. Which explains the fine thread.

Have you those bearings that came with those screws, Dave or do you need 
to src those too?

> > M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit
> > or am I stuck with
> > having a pair custom made?
> > I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe
> > (probably) someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
> > As always TIA
> > 
> > Dave
> > 

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread ken.strauss
Or even easier, use a thread gauge!

-Original Message-
From: Roland Jollivet  
Sent: April 5, 2022 2:28 PM
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Subject: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 18:47, dave engvall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A These are new but older 
> and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
> They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
> M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit 
> or am I stuck with having a pair custom made?
> I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe 
> (probably) someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
> As always TIA
>
> Dave
>

0.8mm pitch is very... fine for a diameter that large. Unlikely.
It's possibly 1mm as that is the finest most large diameters go to.

So the easiest way to check is to take a machine screw and lay it on the
ballscrew to check engagement, with a standard;
M8 x 1.25mm
M6 x 1mm
M5 x 0.8mm
M4 x 0.7mm

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[Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread Roland Jollivet
On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 18:47, dave engvall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A
> These are new but older and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
> They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
> M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit or
> am I stuck with
> having a pair custom made?
> I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe (probably)
> someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
> As always TIA
>
> Dave
>

0.8mm pitch is very... fine for a diameter that large. Unlikely.
It's possibly 1mm as that is the finest most large diameters go to.

So the easiest way to check is to take a machine screw and lay it on the
ballscrew to check engagement, with a standard;
M8 x 1.25mm
M6 x 1mm
M5 x 0.8mm
M4 x 0.7mm

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Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread Ed




On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:47 AM dave engvall  wrote:


Hi all,
I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A These are new but older
and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit
or am I stuck with having a pair custom made?
I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe
(probably) someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
As always TIA

Dave


Check and see if it is .586-32TPI. That is the diameter and pitch for a 
N-02 nut which is for a shaft for a M15 shaft.


People lucky enough to live in metric land would use an M14 or 15 
bearing lock nut but they have pitch of 1mm or 1.5 mm.



Ed.




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Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread Ralph Stirling
McMaster and Misumi have M15x1 bearing retaining nuts, but nothing
finer pitch.  Hard to say if your ball screw was supplied with
the thread from THK or if it was supplied unfinished and
machined later.  I don't even see M15x0.8 in Machinery's Handbook.

-- Ralph

From: dave engvall [dengv...@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:43 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

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Hi all,
I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A
These are new but older and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit or
am I stuck with
having a pair custom made?
I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe (probably)
someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
As always TIA

Dave


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Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread ken.strauss
Measure the thread accurately and even without a lathe it should be easy
enough to thread mill a nut. Are your certain about the 0.8mm pitch? A pitch
of 0.75 or 1.0mm seems more likely? A M15x0.75 tap is available from
https://www.threadtools.com/hss-taps/hss-taps-2-p-metric-9/p9 and I'm
certain other vendors.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Sokolik  
Sent: April 5, 2022 12:57 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

wow - I had a hard enough time finding  12mm x 1..  The local hardware store
actually  had 'jam nuts' in that pitch.  I can't say I have ever run across
.8  - are you sure? ;)

sam



On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:47 AM dave engvall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A These are new but older 
> and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
> They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
> M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit 
> or am I stuck with having a pair custom made?
> I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe 
> (probably) someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
> As always TIA
>
> Dave
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 17:47, dave engvall  wrote:

> M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit or
> am I stuck with
> having a pair custom made?

I assume that you don't have a CNC lathe then?
What do you have? Could you thread-mill them?

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Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread Sam Sokolik
look at that - they actually make a tap..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255422311969?hash=item3b785b2e21:g:hmoAAOSwI4VdVsri

On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:57 AM Sam Sokolik  wrote:

> wow - I had a hard enough time finding  12mm x 1..  The local hardware
> store actually  had 'jam nuts' in that pitch.  I can't say I have ever run
> across .8  - are you sure? ;)
>
> sam
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:47 AM dave engvall  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A
>> These are new but older and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
>> They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
>> M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit or
>> am I stuck with
>> having a pair custom made?
>> I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe (probably)
>> someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
>> As always TIA
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread Sam Sokolik
wow - I had a hard enough time finding  12mm x 1..  The local hardware
store actually  had 'jam nuts' in that pitch.  I can't say I have ever run
across .8  - are you sure? ;)

sam



On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:47 AM dave engvall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A
> These are new but older and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
> They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
> M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit or
> am I stuck with
> having a pair custom made?
> I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe (probably)
> someone else's  google foo is better than mine.
> As always TIA
>
> Dave
>
>
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[Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread dave engvall

Hi all,
I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A
These are new but older and as far as I can tell not on the THK site.
They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing.
M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit or 
am I stuck with

having a pair custom made?
I've spent a fair amount of time searching the web but maybe (probably) 
someone else's  google foo is better than mine.

As always TIA

Dave


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