Re: [Emc-users] Charge Pump on Wiki

2011-01-10 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
S, Kirk Wallace pis(e:
 On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 16:13 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 In case anyone might be interested, I added a charge pump page to the
 wiki. If any one has charge pump information or machine configurations
 they would like to share on that page, please add it to the page.
 Corrections are welcome too.

 http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?About_Charge_Pumps

 Oops, I forgot the subject:(
As e_stop_latch has near same output (one of them) it's good idea to 
mention it in that wiki. And just comment for 567 circuit. The 5V peak 
to peak is little high for them. Just use voltage divider (1/10 ratio) 
on input and should work.
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Re: [Emc-users] Charge Pump on Wiki

2011-01-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 08:56 +0200, Slavko Kocjancic wrote:
... snip
 As e_stop_latch has near same output (one of them) it's good idea to 
 mention it in that wiki. 

I mentioned in the wiki that it may be appropriate to use the charge
pump detector as _part_ of an e-stop system. E-stop is a bigger subject
than charge pump. This may or may not be something I'll have time to get
to.

Oops, I now realize you're saying that e_stop_latch has a charge pump
like feature? I'll look into it, thanks.

 And just comment for 567 circuit. The 5V peak 
 to peak is little high for them. Just use voltage divider (1/10 ratio) 
 on input and should work.

Yes, I noticed the .2V RMS recommended maximum mentioned in the app.
note. I used a 5k potentiometer as a voltage divider and found that the
output changed fairly randomly at different settings for the same
frequency. Varying the frequency also had peaks and valleys, which was
fairly discouraging. Pulse behavior, as opposed to 50% duty, wasn't very
good. I need to get the scope out to see whats going on, but the
cap/diode and AVR circuits already work well, so I'm beginning to loose
interest in this one. If anyone has a working, or near working, circuit
(with square wave or pulse input), I can post it, but I'm not certain
I'll do much more with the 567.
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Re: [Emc-users] Charge Pump on Wiki

2011-01-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 07:21 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 08:56 +0200, Slavko Kocjancic wrote:
 ... snip
  As e_stop_latch has near same output (one of them) it's good idea to 
  mention it in that wiki. 
 
 I mentioned in the wiki that it may be appropriate to use the charge
 pump detector as _part_ of an e-stop system. E-stop is a bigger subject
 than charge pump. This may or may not be something I'll have time to get
 to.
 
 Oops, I now realize you're saying that e_stop_latch has a charge pump
 like feature? I'll look into it, thanks.
... snip

I think I get it, e-stop latch should be mentioned along with the other
pump enable inputs on the wiki page. A Mazak page
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?MazakEstopChain 

mentions the charge pump and latch so I'll need to study it. My feeling
right now is that the pump should be on any time EMC2 is sane, or sane
with the machine On, with the CP detector as just another switch in
the e-stop loop.
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Re: [Emc-users] Charge Pump on Wiki

2011-01-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 07:47 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 07:21 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
  On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 08:56 +0200, Slavko Kocjancic wrote:
  ... snip
   As e_stop_latch has near same output (one of them) it's good idea to 
   mention it in that wiki. 

Uugh, there is a charge pump, or rather, watchdog in estop-latch,

...
  24 if( ok_out ) {
  25 /* toggle watchdog */
  26 watchdog = !watchdog;
  27 }
  28 } else {
...


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Re: [Emc-users] Charge Pump on Wiki

2011-01-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 16:13 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 In case anyone might be interested, I added a charge pump page to the
 wiki. If any one has charge pump information or machine configurations
 they would like to share on that page, please add it to the page.
 Corrections are welcome too.
 
 http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?About_Charge_Pumps 
 

Oops, I forgot the subject:(
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