Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

2013-08-13 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/8/13 Terry Christophersen tcninj...@yahoo.com

 Hi all,
  I am reretrofitting a bridgeport that I use for second operations.It has
 250 line encoders now.
 I would like to upgrade these encoders to say 500 or 1000 line(I am
 getting rid of the 2:1
 ratio pulleys and going for 1:1 so I have lost 1/2 of my resolution)
  I dont need heidenhains or super expensive ones as this machine is not
 used on
 a daily basis.
 Motor:

 SEM MT30-R4   31lb/in

 I dont care if it mounts under the cover like the old one or is outside on
 the end of the shaft.
 The orginals were 3 piece(light,wheel,pcb with sensors all open)


 Any sources?

 Thanks

 Terry


These are my favorites since many years. You can get them at Digikey for
cheap.
http://cncdrive.com/AMT103.html

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Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

2013-08-13 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 08/13/2013 03:22 AM, Sven Wesley wrote:
... snip
 These are my favorites since many years. You can get them at Digikey for
 cheap.
 http://cncdrive.com/AMT103.html
... snip

At one time these encoders were known to have a latency issue. I'm not 
sure what the current status is.

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Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

2013-08-13 Thread Jon Elson
dave wrote:
 On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 19:14 -0700, Terry Christophersen wrote:
   
 Hi all,
  I am reretrofitting a bridgeport that I use for second operations.It has 
 250 line encoders now.
 I would like to upgrade these encoders to say 500 or 1000 line(I am getting 
 rid of the 2:1
 ratio pulleys and going for 1:1 so I have lost 1/2 of my resolution)
  I dont need heidenhains or super expensive ones as this machine is not used 
 on
 a daily basis.
 Motor:

 SEM MT30-R4   31lb/in

 I dont care if it mounts under the cover like the old one or is outside on 
 the end of the shaft.
 The orginals were 3 piece(light,wheel,pcb with sensors all open)
 
I've been getting HEDS-5640 series encoders from Avago (formerly HP) through
Digi-Key.  They have a wide variety of hub sizes and disc resolutions 
available,
but some combinations you might want are not made.  If Digi-Key doesn't
have stock, you can get them from Avnet.  But, the Digi-Key web site is
the fastest way to find the combo you want.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

2013-08-12 Thread dave
On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 19:14 -0700, Terry Christophersen wrote:
 Hi all,
  I am reretrofitting a bridgeport that I use for second operations.It has 250 
 line encoders now.
 I would like to upgrade these encoders to say 500 or 1000 line(I am getting 
 rid of the 2:1
 ratio pulleys and going for 1:1 so I have lost 1/2 of my resolution)
  I dont need heidenhains or super expensive ones as this machine is not used 
 on
 a daily basis.
 Motor:
 
 SEM MT30-R4   31lb/in
 
 I dont care if it mounts under the cover like the old one or is outside on 
 the end of the shaft.
 The orginals were 3 piece(light,wheel,pcb with sensors all open)
 
 
 Any sources? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Terry
I've had good luck with these:

Automation Direct  Koyo 
 TRD-S2500-VD 
ENCODER 2500 PPR 6mm SOLID LINE-
DRIVER 5VDC 2m (6.5ft) CBL LT DUTY
$90

Use them on the cinci and the Mazak. 

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Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

2013-08-12 Thread Terry Christophersen
Thanks Dave,
300 for xyz is much better than 300 for just the x


Terry



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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 19:14 -0700, Terry Christophersen wrote:
 Hi all,
  I am reretrofitting a bridgeport that I use for second operations.It has 250 
line encoders now.
 I would like to upgrade these encoders to say 500 or 1000 line(I am getting 
 rid of the 2:1
 ratio pulleys and going for 1:1 so I have lost 1/2 of my resolution)
  I dont need heidenhains or super expensive ones as this machine is not used 
on
 a daily basis.
 Motor:
 
 SEM MT30-R4   31lb/in
 
 I dont care if it mounts under the cover like the old one or is outside on 
 the end of the shaft.
 The orginals were 3 piece(light,wheel,pcb with sensors all open)
 
 
 Any sources? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Terry
I've had good luck with these:

Automation Direct  Koyo 
TRD-S2500-VD 
ENCODER 2500 PPR 6mm SOLID LINE-
DRIVER 5VDC 2m (6.5ft) CBL LT DUTY
$90

Use them on the cinci and the Mazak. 

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Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

2013-08-12 Thread dave
Remember, they are only dust sealed. You have to protect them from
coolant, etc. I get my couplers from helicoil in CA. Don't know if they
are any better or worse than others tho. 

Dave

On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 19:41 -0700, Terry Christophersen wrote:
 Thanks Dave,
 300 for xyz is much better than 300 for just the x
 
 
 Terry
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: dave dengv...@charter.net
 To: Terry Christophersen tcninj...@yahoo.com; Enhanced Machine Controller 
 (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] sem motors
 
 On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 19:14 -0700, Terry Christophersen wrote:
  Hi all,
   I am reretrofitting a bridgeport that I use for second operations.It has 
  250 line encoders now.
  I would like to upgrade these encoders to say 500 or 1000 line(I am getting 
  rid of the 2:1
  ratio pulleys and going for 1:1 so I have lost 1/2 of my resolution)
   I dont need heidenhains or super expensive ones as this machine is not 
  used on
  a daily basis.
  Motor:
  
  SEM MT30-R4   31lb/in
  
  I dont care if it mounts under the cover like the old one or is outside on 
  the end of the shaft.
  The orginals were 3 piece(light,wheel,pcb with sensors all open)
  
  
  Any sources? 
  
  Thanks
  
  Terry
 I've had good luck with these:
 
 Automation Direct  Koyo 
 TRD-S2500-VD 
 ENCODER 2500 PPR 6mm SOLID LINE-
 DRIVER 5VDC 2m (6.5ft) CBL LT DUTY
 $90
 
 Use them on the cinci and the Mazak. 
 
 Dave
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Re: [Emc-users] sem motors

2013-08-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 08/12/2013 07:14 PM, Terry Christophersen wrote:
 Hi all,
   I am reretrofitting a bridgeport that I use for second operations.It has 
 250 line encoders now.
 I would like to upgrade these encoders to say 500 or 1000 line

I save money by using my time to build encoders from disks and sensors:
http://www.usdigital.com/products/encoders/incremental/rotary/disks/DISK-2
http://www.usdigital.com/products/encoders/incremental/modules/EM1
http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/6-1a.jpg

In my opinion, I'd keep the 2:1 pulley, which allows slight 
misalignment, but maintains torsional stiffness with constant friction.

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