Re: [-empyre-] Artwork #14: Ian Giles - On The Way To Language

[Daniel Lichtman]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi Sergio,
At risk of influencing (contaminating) your response to Ian's work, Ian
wrote the following to me when I followed up with him:

"I borrowed the title alone - the book was in an airb that we rented when
we first moved to nyc in 2014"

I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this relation between the work and
Heidegger's conference!

Best,
Dan


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 7:16 PM Sergio Basbaum  wrote:

> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> Sorry, this message should be adressed to Daniel,
>
> Does Gilles "On the way to language" bring any relation to Heidegger's
> work?
>
> best
> s
>
>
> 
>  Livre
> de vírus. www.avast.com
> .
>
> <#m_-8685520577163329908_m_-2605961860218423513_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Sergio Basbaum 
> wrote:
>
>> dear Ian,
>>
>> Thank you for your link.
>>
>> Is this title a reference to Heidegger's conference about language?
>>
>> best from Brazil
>> s
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Daniel Lichtman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
>>> Ian Giles
>>>
>>> On The Way To Language
>>>
>>>
>>> Video Link:
>>>
>>> https://vimeo.com/133909025
>>>
>>> Ian Giles (b. 1985, UK) completed his MFA in 2012 at the Slade School of
>>> Fine Art. He was a LUX Associate Artist 2012/13. Recent exhibitions and
>>>  screenings include: Video Club: Sex Talks, Stedelijk Museum, Amsterdam
>>> (2018); ‘After BUTT’, Chelsea Space, London (2018); ‘Multiplexing II’,
>>> Cineworld Cinema, Glasgow with LUX Scotland (2017); ‘AsToAsIsTo’ a
>>> collaboration with the Youth Forum, Whitechapel Gallery, London (2016);
>>> ‘Connected Works’, Harvard University, Cambridge USA (2016); ‘m-Health’,
>>> Cell Project Space, London (2015); ‘Videoclub’: Selected IV UK national
>>> tour including Nottingham Contemporary (2014); ’21st Century Screening’,
>>> Chisenhale Gallery, London (2012) and Whitstable Biennale (2010). He was a
>>> resident at Hospitalfield, Scotland in 2017 and awarded a Production
>>> Bursary by Spike Island and The Centre For Moving Image Research 2016.
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
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>> ...sai dessa fila, vem pra roda festejar..
>> 
>> -- a.cinema 
>> -- pantharei_tube
>> 
>>
>> "Do mesmo modo como a percepção da coisa me abre ao ser, realizando a
>> síntese paradoxal de uma infinidade de aspectos perspectivos, a percepção
>> do outro funda a moralidade (...)"
>> Maurice Merleau-Ponty
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> -- Prof. Dr. Sérgio Roclaw Basbaum
> -- Pós-Graduação Tec.da Inteligência e Design Digital - TIDD (PUC-SP)
>
> -- http://soundcloud.com/sergiobasbaum
> -- http://soundcloud.com/pantharei 
> -- [:a.cinema:] 
> ...sai dessa fila, vem pra roda festejar..
> 
> -- a.cinema 
> -- pantharei_tube
> 
>
> "Do mesmo modo como a percepção da coisa me abre ao ser, realizando a
> síntese paradoxal de uma infinidade de aspectos perspectivos, a percepção
> do outro funda a moralidade (...)"
> Maurice Merleau-Ponty
>
>
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Re: [-empyre-] Artwork #15: Liat Berdugo and Emily Martinez - Making You, Making Others

[Lee Tusman]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Yes! I am stressed! Yes I am overwhelmed! Yes I could use more 'me time!'

On first viewing, my brain flags behind my ability to comprehend what's
going on. I thought the script was written with machine learning possibly,
to be performed or voiced by a human.
With more reflection, I realize that is sort of correct. The 'spokesperson'
is announcing how to MAKE YOURSELF a "ghost, get hard, get in the mood, get
more energy, get nightmares, get over a guy, get out of bed to workout" and
hundreds more topics, probably as a result of the top Google search results
for the initial phrase. And those results are being fed/delivered to the
spokesmodel. From here, even thought I understand the process, and so I'd
imagine my brain would shut off, instead I find myself anticipating what
might come next. Blandness mixes with confusion and serendipitous results.
The matching images are even stranger and just as compelling: a google
image search soup of How To article images, promotional banners, stock
images, Disney character images, models, pop stars and kittens. By the time
we get near the end of the alphabet, I'm anticipating the end but not
wanting it to arrive.  How to make yourself a zombie. How to make yourself
zone out. Yes.

The artists describe their project as promotional video / performance
collaboration between an algorithm, a pair of artists, and a
gig-­economy-­spokesperson­-for-­hire. They're interested in how art can be
shaped in our current global economy and how is labor shifted. These are of
course huge topics, but the use of these arenas as tools for commentary but
also as tools for critical practice point to a fruitful new approach and
genre(s).

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Lichtman 
wrote:

> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> Liat Berdugo and Emily Martinez
> Making You, Making Others
>
> Video link: http://anxioustomake.ga/makingyoumakingothers.html
>
> Liat Berdugo is an artist, writer, and curator based in Oakland, CA. Her
> work strives to create an expanded, thoughtful consideration for digital
> culture. Berdugo has been exhibited in galleries and festivals
> internationally, and collaborates widely with individuals and archives. She
> is an Assistant Professor of Art and Architecture at the University of San
> Francisco.
>
> Emily Martinez is an artist working with digital and networked media. Her
> recent practice and research interests examine the relationship between
> media, memory, and catastrophe; post-representational forms of
> subjectivity, emancipatory practices, and the digital archive. Currently
> lives and works in Los Angeles, California.
>
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Re: [-empyre-] Invitation to respond

[Aviva Rahmani]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
I am awkwardly responding because I didn't look carefully at most of the works. 
But I did respond strongly to the question about curating in this context. It 
seems to me that framing is a critical question in any curating, and in this 
frame, I am relatively uninterested in the work per se but very interested in 
how the work evokes a flow of discourse about matters that interest me, ie., 
systems thinking while systems collapse. For example, I think that's why the 
thread on mycellae had such legs. So, yes, please, do clarify the thinking 
behind the curating and its relationship to this frame.

Aviva Rahmani, PhD
Follow my work: https://d.rip/aviva
www.ghostn...@ghostnets.com 
Watch ³Blued Trees²:  https://vimeo.com/135290635 
www.gulftogulf.org  
 
 

On 7/30/18, 10:58 AM, "empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au on behalf of 
Daniel Lichtman"  wrote:

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[-empyre-] Invitation to respond

[Daniel Lichtman]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi Empyre list,

As we’re in the last days of this month’s program, I wanted to invite
anyone from the list to respond to any of the posted artworks. As you can
see, responses can be quick and intuitive if you like—take the bullet point
format as permission to reflect on the works piecemeal and associatively.

Best,
Dan
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Re: [-empyre-] Artwork #14: Ian Giles - On The Way To Language

[Shu Lea Cheang]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Dear Daniel

thanks for this month's  listing of art works... it does provide an 
interesting format of reviewing artworks online.


i cannot help to come in and ask some simple questions...

what is your criteria in the artists you selected for viewing their 
works? in your curation of these series of works, what would be your 
curatorial summing up after a month of reflections (in quite a coherent 
style of posting remarks) posted by accidental reviewers?


thanks much

sl







On 30/07/18 04:34, Daniel Lichtman wrote:

--empyre- soft-skinned space--


Hi Sergio,

I just wrote Ian Giles to ask if the title of his work comes from 
Heidegger's conference about language and he confirmed that yes, it does.


In the spirit of this month's format, would you like to respond about 
what relation you see, or don't see, between the work and Heidegger?


Best wishes,
Dan

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 7:16 PM Sergio Basbaum > wrote:


--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Sorry, this message should be adressed to Daniel,

Does Gilles "On the way to language" bring any relation to
Heidegger's work?

best
s



Livre de vírus. www.avast.com

.



On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Sergio Basbaum
mailto:sbasb...@gmail.com>> wrote:

dear Ian,

Thank you for your link.

Is this title a reference to Heidegger's conference about
language?

best from Brazil
s

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Daniel Lichtman
mailto:daniel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Ian Giles

On The Way To Language


Video Link:

https://vimeo.com/133909025

Ian Giles (b. 1985, UK) completed his MFA in 2012 at the
Slade School of Fine Art. He was a LUX Associate Artist
2012/13. Recent exhibitions and screenings include: Video
Club: Sex Talks, Stedelijk Museum, Amsterdam (2018);
‘After BUTT’, Chelsea Space, London (2018); ‘Multiplexing
II’, Cineworld Cinema, Glasgow with LUX Scotland (2017);
‘AsToAsIsTo’ a collaboration with the Youth Forum,
Whitechapel Gallery, London (2016); ‘Connected Works’,
Harvard University, Cambridge USA (2016); ‘m-Health’, Cell
Project Space, London (2015); ‘Videoclub’: Selected IV UK
national tour including Nottingham Contemporary (2014);
’21st Century Screening’, Chisenhale Gallery, London
(2012) and Whitstable Biennale (2010). He was a resident
at Hospitalfield, Scotland in 2017 and awarded a
Production Bursary by Spike Island and The Centre For
Moving Image Research 2016.


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-- Pós-Graduação Tec.da Inteligência e Design Digital - TIDD
(PUC-SP)

-- http://soundcloud.com/sergiobasbaum
-- http://soundcloud.com/pantharei

-- [:a.cinema:] 
...sai dessa fila, vem pra roda festejar..

-- a.cinema 
-- pantharei_tube


"Do mesmo modo como a percepção da coisa me abre ao ser,
realizando a síntese paradoxal de uma infinidade de aspectos
perspectivos, a percepção do outro funda a moralidade (...)"
Maurice Merleau-Ponty





-- 
-- Prof. Dr. Sérgio Roclaw Basbaum

-- Pós-Graduação Tec.da Inteligência e Design Digital - TIDD (PUC-SP)

-- http://soundcloud.com/sergiobasbaum
-- http://soundcloud.com/pantharei 
-- [:a.cinema:] 
...sai dessa fila, vem pra roda festejar..

-- a.cinema 
-- pantharei_tube


"Do mesmo modo como a percepção da coisa me abre ao ser,
realizando a síntese paradoxal de uma infinidade de aspectos
perspectivos, a percepção do outro funda a moralidade (...)"
Maurice Merleau-Ponty

Re: [-empyre-] Artwork #14: Ian Giles - On The Way To Language

[Sergio Basbaum]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear Dan,

Thank you for your reply. I'm glad Gilles confirmed that relation.

I'll have a closer look at the video and will try to send the list some
comments about.

best from Brazil
s

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 10:34 PM, Daniel Lichtman 
wrote:

> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> Hi Sergio,
>
> I just wrote Ian Giles to ask if the title of his work comes from
> Heidegger's conference about language and he confirmed that yes, it does.
>
> In the spirit of this month's format, would you like to respond about what
> relation you see, or don't see, between the work and Heidegger?
>
> Best wishes,
> Dan
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 7:16 PM Sergio Basbaum  wrote:
>
>> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
>> Sorry, this message should be adressed to Daniel,
>>
>> Does Gilles "On the way to language" bring any relation to Heidegger's
>> work?
>>
>> best
>> s
>>
>>
>> 
>>  Livre
>> de vírus. www.avast.com
>> .
>>
>> <#m_37677997075585761_m_-8685520577163329908_m_-2605961860218423513_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Sergio Basbaum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> dear Ian,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your link.
>>>
>>> Is this title a reference to Heidegger's conference about language?
>>>
>>> best from Brazil
>>> s
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Daniel Lichtman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 --empyre- soft-skinned space--
 Ian Giles

 On The Way To Language


 Video Link:

 https://vimeo.com/133909025

 Ian Giles (b. 1985, UK) completed his MFA in 2012 at the Slade School
 of Fine Art. He was a LUX Associate Artist 2012/13. Recent exhibitions and
  screenings include: Video Club: Sex Talks, Stedelijk Museum,
 Amsterdam (2018); ‘After BUTT’, Chelsea Space, London (2018); ‘Multiplexing
 II’, Cineworld Cinema, Glasgow with LUX Scotland (2017); ‘AsToAsIsTo’ a
 collaboration with the Youth Forum, Whitechapel Gallery, London (2016);
 ‘Connected Works’, Harvard University, Cambridge USA (2016); ‘m-Health’,
 Cell Project Space, London (2015); ‘Videoclub’: Selected IV UK national
 tour including Nottingham Contemporary (2014); ’21st Century Screening’,
 Chisenhale Gallery, London (2012) and Whitstable Biennale (2010). He was a
 resident at Hospitalfield, Scotland in 2017 and awarded a Production
 Bursary by Spike Island and The Centre For Moving Image Research 2016.


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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -- Prof. Dr. Sérgio Roclaw Basbaum
>>> -- Pós-Graduação Tec.da Inteligência e Design Digital - TIDD (PUC-SP)
>>>
>>> -- http://soundcloud.com/sergiobasbaum
>>> -- http://soundcloud.com/pantharei 
>>> -- [:a.cinema:] 
>>> ...sai dessa fila, vem pra roda festejar..
>>> 
>>> -- a.cinema 
>>> -- pantharei_tube
>>> 
>>>
>>> "Do mesmo modo como a percepção da coisa me abre ao ser, realizando a
>>> síntese paradoxal de uma infinidade de aspectos perspectivos, a percepção
>>> do outro funda a moralidade (...)"
>>> Maurice Merleau-Ponty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -- Prof. Dr. Sérgio Roclaw Basbaum
>> -- Pós-Graduação Tec.da Inteligência e Design Digital - TIDD (PUC-SP)
>>
>> -- http://soundcloud.com/sergiobasbaum
>> -- http://soundcloud.com/pantharei 
>> -- [:a.cinema:] 
>> ...sai dessa fila, vem pra roda festejar..
>> 
>> -- a.cinema 
>> -- pantharei_tube
>> 
>>
>> "Do mesmo modo como a percepção da coisa me abre ao ser, realizando a
>> síntese paradoxal de uma infinidade de aspectos perspectivos, a percepção
>> do outro funda a moralidade (...)"
>> Maurice Merleau-Ponty
>>
>>
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-- Pós-Graduação Tec.da Inteligência e Design Digital - TIDD (PUC-SP)

-- http://soundcloud.com/sergiobasbaum
-- http://soundcloud.com/pantharei 
-- [:a.cinema:] 

Re: [-empyre-] Artwork #16: Hans Diernberger - Hundstein

[Robert R]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--A lone woman climbing a mountain. She stops occasionally (e.g. at 1:11) to
rest and drink.

Through the wash of thumbnails that Vimeo picks, we get a timeline of her
walk. Why this walk? This red poncho?

The performance belongs first to the camera and secondly to a body.

Could this be an elegy to the material constraints of image production? A
take two hours and forty-eight minutes long, in 2010 (when this was shot)
was on the edge of being remarkable.  The peak, when the woman arrives at
1:34,  is much the same.

In eight years prior,  a two-hour take was a spectacle: In The Russian Ark
(2002), a single traveling shot through the Hermitage in St Petersburg
attempted to bend the conventions of film grammar, requiring the
daisy-chaining of BOTH hard drives and bodies. This sketched out a new
sacred for cinema that survived about three years under the onslaught of
new sensors and codecs (e.g. the Red, The GoPro).

Though Hundestein reduces the daisy chain of the Russian Ark to a single
body and a camera, might some of the grandiosity be preserved?

Who has the bandwidth to know??



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> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> Hans Diernberger
> Hundstein
>
> Video link: https://vimeo.com/24724442
>
> Hans Diernberger (Munich,1983) studied Media Art at the Academy of Media
> Arts in Cologne (2004-09) and accomplished the MFA in Fine Art at
> Goldsmiths College, London (2009-11). His work has been shown at several
> shows throughout Europe, the USA and Japan. Hans has received the
> Spiridon-Neven-DuMont Prize in Cologne (2009) and a DAAD grant for 2010. In
> 2012 he has been invited to do an artist residency at Villa Aurora in Los
> Angeles. Since then, he works on collaborative installations with sound
> artist Will Saunders. In 2018, they were invited to do a three months
> residency in Tokyo to work with The Only Male Geisha in Japan, funded by
> the German Ministry of Culture and Arts Council England. They also got
> invited to do a residency at Vila Sul, Goethe Institute Salvador (Bahia),
> Brazil later that year.
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