Re: [-empyre-] for William

[William Bain]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Renate and List,
Thank *you* for sharing. On Nietzsche: I 
seem to have mixed apples and oranges:What I meant was that Nietzsche 
relatesthe devlopment of ancient Greek tragedyto earlier lyric poetry. In *The 
Birth of Tragedy*As lyrics often deal with life, death, nature,bio-art seems 
referenced... On bird nesting and language: Some biolinguists haveexplord 
relationships between the knotssome birds tie to create nests and the 
development of human language. If you playaround on a search engine with terms 
likeevo devo knots in bird nests *or* 
biolinguistics bird nesting language development you should get back a numberof 
interesting hits. The main one I'm familiarwith is *Pere Alberch's 
DevelopmentalMorphospaces and the Evolution of 
Cognition* an article by Sergi Balari andGuillermo Lorenzo. This is 
atThe
 Stiglitz is at the link below. He has severalarticles in *The Guardian* which 
can be foundby searching there. If the links don't ome through,please let me 
know. Thanks again for sharing, 
William (stiglitz link 
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[Renate Terese Ferro]

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Thanks for this post William.  I am wondering if you might not give me the 
citation for the Nietzsche quote about the birds and nests. I am doing research 
on a project “Eye Spy a Storm” in Augmented Reality and the citation is just 
what I’m looking for.  I would not mind the Stiglitz as well.  Thanks for 
sharing.  Renate

One of the first things to hit me when Istarted thinking about the topic was 
the relationship perceivable in theearliest lyric poetry between life and art. 
Nietzsche nd others derived the artof tragedy from it. Updating a bit I began 
to think about the (little) I’veread on biolinguistics and the proposed 
relationship biolinguists find betweenknotting procedures used by birds in 
creating nests and what we could considerknitting procedures used by humans in 
creating tools. Today’s *Guardian* (theBritish paper) carries an article by 
Joseph Stiglitz that expresses hope thatthe deep sociological stages of 
globalism will be met and worked through bypeople in a variety of disciplines. 
No easy task... An economy of mind perhaps. Thanks for yourideas! Best 
wishes, William



Renate Ferro
Visiting Associate Professor
Director of Undergraduate Studies
Department of Art
Tjaden Hall 306
rfe...@cornell.edu



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