Re: [-empyre-] a new meta-narrative to guide us

2014-05-14 Thread Alexander R. Galloway
--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Christina,

yes you read my mind. the via negativa is one of the things that I picked up 
from reading Eugene Thacker's book After Life -- and it's a method that has 
influenced me greatly in recent years (and incidentally syncs well with 
Laruelle i'd say). This not to reinforce some sort of transcendental--religious 
or otherwise--but rather to highlight how important denial is for contemporary 
methodology. In other words, while much contemporary thought operates through a 
logic of augmentation--more this, more that--I'm much more excited by a logic 
of subtraction (one example of which would be Badiou's theory of the event). In 
other words we need a kind of anorexic philosophy, not an inflated one. 
Thinking is hamstrung by claims to sufficiency; thought is only liberated via 
the common. I see this as the key to unlocking the non-human.

Ken might be able to say more here, but in the book we were interested in how 
religious thinking gets taken up by theory and philosophy. so Badiou has his St 
Paul, Zizek has his Job, Agamben his St Francis, etc. For his part Laruelle 
focuses on the resurrection. I find the evangelical strains of Badiou's 
Paulinism a bit wearisome in the present climate, but I understand how it's 
necessary for a voluntarist form of militancy. 

a secular via negativa is interesting to me, and i see it as a way to 
understand the common. not an inflated universal subject. but a deflated 
generic person (arrived at via subtraction or negation). this connects to 
renate's comments too about Gandhi and King. 

and your last comment is great: a revelation from “God”. i think yes, although 
this might not be God in the normal sense (nor revelation)! I'm a student of 
the Spinoza/Marx/Deleuze version of God: let's banish metaphysics in favor of a 
flat material plane. and if spirit exists it exists right here and now.

lots of material to ponder. thanks,

-ag


On May 11, 2014, at 7:00 PM, christ...@christinamcphee.net wrote:

 --empyre- soft-skinned space--
 Alexander et al, 
 
 To insist on focussing our ethics on a strategy of infinite (as in, 
 non-relational) withdrawal has antecedents in the Orthodox spiritual 
 tradition of the via negativa.   
 
 Your (AG’s) discussion of James Turrell’s light installations in ‘light of’ 
 Laruelle’s theory of non-photography resonates with me to that tradition, and 
 even to the figure that LaRuelle throws up, the Son of Man.  St. Matthew 
 calls Jesus the “Son of Man” rather than “Son of God” more often than not.  
 Matthew is writing in an attempt to link the story of Jesus to an historical 
 geneology of culture-heroes in the Hebraic written tradition and oral history 
 and community consciousness during a time of tremendous catastrophic and 
 ongoing loss of those community values. Perhaps also, if you can indulge a 
 psycho-history, to a loss of a sense of God’s presence among His chosen. 
 
 At the same time, Matthew’s invocation of “Son of Man” also radically points 
 to the transcendent arrival of an agent whose parentage is of “Man” , i. e. 
 not just the Jewish people or any tribe, but an ultimate Man.  It’s not for 
 nothing that Pasolini chooses Matthew as his text for his film “The Gospel 
 according to St Matthew” : Pasolini rightly builds on the radical 
 implications of the figure of Christ as arising directly from a transcendence 
 that gathers force not alongside, or against, but “in, with, and under” the 
 people— transubstantiation.  On the level of poetics if not politics, 
 Pasolini’s agnosticisms consider the possibility of accord with an 
 ’too-innocent philosophy’ — but, by means of making of the film itself, with 
 Palestinians, in ‘Palestine” , reject a radicalism of extraction of the 
 Logos; no, for PPP, the Logos is in and among us qua film qua life qua body 
 and blood.  In contrast— an opposite politics--- in your discourse on Turrell 
 via LaRuelle, AG?  I’d like to explore this further, starting here: 
 
 As one blogger recently notes
 
 …. the beginning of the determination of a too innocent philosophy, a 
 non-philosophy, a supra-rational innocence, which could only expressly mean 
 the immortalization of the Logos through the extraction of all its radical 
 conceivability in history, already practiced or imagined, the only reason, ne 
 plus 
 ultra.http://veraqivas.wordpress.com/category/immanent-philosophy/francois-laruelle/page/2/
 
 
 Imagine this binary, just for a moment (it may or may not be provisional).  
 Let’s say : where Pasolini and Matthew remain on one side of a chasm,  on the 
 other stands LaRuelle, the non-philosopher who may not presume to partake 
 (through history, through ethics, through the spoken word, through the moving 
 image..) community or communitarian values. If Matthew the historian, and 
 Pasolini, artist of proto-Christian atheism, stand for and with 
 community--with or without ‘God’ 

Re: [-empyre-] a new meta-narrative to guide us

2014-05-14 Thread Christina McPhee
--empyre- soft-skinned space--
What a thoughtful response. I'm honored.  

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 14, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Alexander R. Galloway gallo...@nyu.edu wrote:
 
 --empyre- soft-skinned space--
 Christina,
 
 yes you read my mind. the via negativa is one of the things that I picked 
 up from reading Eugene Thacker's book After Life -- and it's a method that 
 has influenced me greatly in recent years (and incidentally syncs well with 
 Laruelle i'd say). This not to reinforce some sort of 
 transcendental--religious or otherwise--but rather to highlight how important 
 denial is for contemporary methodology. In other words, while much 
 contemporary thought operates through a logic of augmentation--more this, 
 more that--I'm much more excited by a logic of subtraction (one example of 
 which would be Badiou's theory of the event). In other words we need a kind 
 of anorexic philosophy, not an inflated one. Thinking is hamstrung by claims 
 to sufficiency; thought is only liberated via the common. I see this as the 
 key to unlocking the non-human.
 
 Ken might be able to say more here, but in the book we were interested in how 
 religious thinking gets taken up by theory and philosophy. so Badiou has his 
 St Paul, Zizek has his Job, Agamben his St Francis, etc. For his part 
 Laruelle focuses on the resurrection. I find the evangelical strains of 
 Badiou's Paulinism a bit wearisome in the present climate, but I understand 
 how it's necessary for a voluntarist form of militancy. 
 
 a secular via negativa is interesting to me, and i see it as a way to 
 understand the common. not an inflated universal subject. but a deflated 
 generic person (arrived at via subtraction or negation). this connects to 
 renate's comments too about Gandhi and King. 
 
 and your last comment is great: a revelation from “God”. i think yes, 
 although this might not be God in the normal sense (nor revelation)! I'm a 
 student of the Spinoza/Marx/Deleuze version of God: let's banish metaphysics 
 in favor of a flat material plane. and if spirit exists it exists right 
 here and now.
 
 lots of material to ponder. thanks,
 
 -ag
 
 
 On May 11, 2014, at 7:00 PM, christ...@christinamcphee.net wrote:
 
 --empyre- soft-skinned space--
 Alexander et al, 
 
 To insist on focussing our ethics on a strategy of infinite (as in, 
 non-relational) withdrawal has antecedents in the Orthodox spiritual 
 tradition of the via negativa.   
 
 Your (AG’s) discussion of James Turrell’s light installations in ‘light of’ 
 Laruelle’s theory of non-photography resonates with me to that tradition, 
 and even to the figure that LaRuelle throws up, the Son of Man.  St. Matthew 
 calls Jesus the “Son of Man” rather than “Son of God” more often than not.  
 Matthew is writing in an attempt to link the story of Jesus to an historical 
 geneology of culture-heroes in the Hebraic written tradition and oral 
 history and community consciousness during a time of tremendous catastrophic 
 and ongoing loss of those community values. Perhaps also, if you can indulge 
 a psycho-history, to a loss of a sense of God’s presence among His chosen. 
 
 At the same time, Matthew’s invocation of “Son of Man” also radically points 
 to the transcendent arrival of an agent whose parentage is of “Man” , i. e. 
 not just the Jewish people or any tribe, but an ultimate Man.  It’s not for 
 nothing that Pasolini chooses Matthew as his text for his film “The Gospel 
 according to St Matthew” : Pasolini rightly builds on the radical 
 implications of the figure of Christ as arising directly from a 
 transcendence that gathers force not alongside, or against, but “in, with, 
 and under” the people— transubstantiation.  On the level of poetics if not 
 politics, Pasolini’s agnosticisms consider the possibility of accord with an 
 ’too-innocent philosophy’ — but, by means of making of the film itself, with 
 Palestinians, in ‘Palestine” , reject a radicalism of extraction of the 
 Logos; no, for PPP, the Logos is in and among us qua film qua life qua body 
 and blood.  In contrast— an opposite politics--- in your discourse on 
 Turrell via LaRuelle, AG?  I’d like to explore this further, starting here: 
 
 As one blogger recently notes
 
 …. the beginning of the determination of a too innocent philosophy, a 
 non-philosophy, a supra-rational innocence, which could only expressly mean 
 the immortalization of the Logos through the extraction of all its radical 
 conceivability in history, already practiced or imagined, the only reason, 
 ne plus 
 ultra.http://veraqivas.wordpress.com/category/immanent-philosophy/francois-laruelle/page/2/
 
 
 Imagine this binary, just for a moment (it may or may not be provisional).  
 Let’s say : where Pasolini and Matthew remain on one side of a chasm,  on 
 the other stands LaRuelle, the non-philosopher who may not presume to 
 partake (through 

[-empyre-] a new meta-narrative to guide us

2014-05-11 Thread christ...@christinamcphee.net
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Alexander et al, 

To insist on focussing our ethics on a strategy of infinite (as in, 
non-relational) withdrawal has antecedents in the Orthodox spiritual tradition 
of the via negativa.   

Your (AG’s) discussion of James Turrell’s light installations in ‘light of’ 
Laruelle’s theory of non-photography resonates with me to that tradition, and 
even to the figure that LaRuelle throws up, the Son of Man.  St. Matthew calls 
Jesus the “Son of Man” rather than “Son of God” more often than not.  Matthew 
is writing in an attempt to link the story of Jesus to an historical geneology 
of culture-heroes in the Hebraic written tradition and oral history and 
community consciousness during a time of tremendous catastrophic and ongoing 
loss of those community values. Perhaps also, if you can indulge a 
psycho-history, to a loss of a sense of God’s presence among His chosen. 

At the same time, Matthew’s invocation of “Son of Man” also radically points to 
the transcendent arrival of an agent whose parentage is of “Man” , i. e. not 
just the Jewish people or any tribe, but an ultimate Man.  It’s not for nothing 
that Pasolini chooses Matthew as his text for his film “The Gospel according to 
St Matthew” : Pasolini rightly builds on the radical implications of the figure 
of Christ as arising directly from a transcendence that gathers force not 
alongside, or against, but “in, with, and under” the people— 
transubstantiation.  On the level of poetics if not politics, Pasolini’s 
agnosticisms consider the possibility of accord with an ’too-innocent 
philosophy’ — but, by means of making of the film itself, with Palestinians, in 
‘Palestine” , reject a radicalism of extraction of the Logos; no, for PPP, the 
Logos is in and among us qua film qua life qua body and blood.  In contrast— an 
opposite politics--- in your discourse on Turrell via LaRuelle, AG?  I’d like 
to explore this further, starting here: 

As one blogger recently notes

…. the beginning of the determination of a too innocent philosophy, a 
non-philosophy, a supra-rational innocence, which could only expressly mean the 
immortalization of the Logos through the extraction of all its radical 
conceivability in history, already practiced or imagined, the only reason, ne 
plus 
ultra.http://veraqivas.wordpress.com/category/immanent-philosophy/francois-laruelle/page/2/


Imagine this binary, just for a moment (it may or may not be provisional).  
Let’s say : where Pasolini and Matthew remain on one side of a chasm,  on the 
other stands LaRuelle, the non-philosopher who may not presume to partake 
(through history, through ethics, through the spoken word, through the moving 
image..) community or communitarian values. If Matthew the historian, and 
Pasolini, artist of proto-Christian atheism, stand for and with community--with 
or without ‘God’ (AKA the noumenous) --through the figuration of relation and 
partaking (taking part) (=transubstantiation) of the Son of Man; then on the 
other side, LaRuelle proposes to stands in for, contra or at least in 
figure/ground opposition, to community--with or without “Man” (AKA the human 
community) . Alexander, are you also there with LaRuelle, or is this binary too 
stark? 

Listening to your talk, Alexander, on Incredible Machines, considering James 
Turrell’s installations as evidence of LaRuelle’s theory of non-photography, I 
immediately turned back to Laruelle’s desire for the Son of Man. (I must 
confess I am relying on impressions I had when I listened to your live talk)  
Alexander, your manifesto is “ to articulate a logic being that is not 
reducible to a metaphysics of exchange… ‘there will be no more messages.” And 
you go on to point to a “logic of relation..without the….model of exchange. “ 
It’s possible  Laruelle espouses a (non)-figuration of the transcendent angel 
en arrivant. 

So: to propose a chasm here.  No exchange, means no more messages, means in its 
equal and opposite expression (since if there is no more  x-y or y-x there 
can only be x= not-x).   Turrell’s light objects, in order to be understood as 
new information, new knowledge….  need not require a St Matthew-esque 
historicity with antecedents like Moholy-Nagy, Naum Gabo, El Lissitsky…  They 
can arrive, like angels… ? 

I take it that 'the new meta-narrative to guide us’ — (AG, below) partakes of 
this only-reason, this new plus ultra of an arrival of an angel in the 
subject-site of theorist. Could Turrell’s space-time-image manifest the arrival 
of something new, like this? A Logos, of a sort? The canard of art as 
knowledge-production goes to something else, something very interesting.  Since 
always otherwise words partake of the play of the trace, the way from above is 
to make the person-space-time of the Logos an embodied speech act?   A 
via-negativa speaks, from a space of non-relation, non-photography— from the 
somewhat disingenuously described ‘too-innocent’