Re: [Enigmail] Automatically decrypt/verify messages not working in 1.6 or 1.5?

2013-12-15 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
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On 14.12.13 20:47, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:

 I agree that the report mixes the two things; but i'm pretty sure
 the issue is about automatically decrypt/verify messages.  I've
 asked the original reporter to clarify on the bug report; hopefully
 that will help.

As it seems, it's now clear that the bug reporter complains about
random passphrase requests, even when no decryption/signing is taking
place. This reminds me of Bug 138
https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/138/

The fix for this bug provided by Enigmail 1.6 cannot work on earlier
software as of Thunderbird 24 and derived software.

 Anyhow, in my testing, it does look to me like the automatically 
 decrypt/verify messages checkboxed menuentry doesn't have the
 desired effect, at least on icedove 24.1.1 and enigmail 1.6.

Well, at least for PGP/MIME encrypted messages, see my mail from
yesterday. I'll open a bug for this.

Ludwig

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Re: [Enigmail] Automatically decrypt/verify messages not working in 1.6 or 1.5?

2013-12-14 Thread Onno Ekker

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Hi Daniel,
For me this still works with Enigmail 1.6 on Thunderbird 24.2.0 on
Windows XP SP3.
When you hide the expert settings, the menuitem Automatically
decrypt/verify messages is hidden, but the setting still takes effect.
When checked, the emails are decrypted/verified without the need to
press Ctrl+D.
Can't test this on Debian though...
Onno

On 12/13/2013 10:29 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 in http://bugs.debian.org/732067, a user reports that the checkbox
 Automatically decrypt/verfiy messages in the OpenPGP menu isn't
 working any more.

 Apparently, the menu option is only available when show expert
 preferences is chosen in the OpenPGP preferences dialog.

 The inital report came in about version 1.5, but i can confirm the same
 misbehavior with 1.6.

 can other people test if this option works for them?

 --dkg



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Re: [Enigmail] Automatically decrypt/verify messages not working in 1.6 or 1.5?

2013-12-14 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
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Hi,

 On 12/13/2013 10:29 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 in http://bugs.debian.org/732067, a user reports that the
 checkbox Automatically decrypt/verfiy messages in the OpenPGP
 menu isn't working any more.
 
 Apparently, the menu option is only available when show expert 
 preferences is chosen in the OpenPGP preferences dialog.
 
 The inital report came in about version 1.5, but i can confirm
 the same misbehavior with 1.6.
 
 can other people test if this option works for them?
 
 --dkg

On 14.12.13 09:19, Onno Ekker wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel, For me this still works with Enigmail 1.6 on Thunderbird
 24.2.0 on Windows XP SP3. When you hide the expert settings, the
 menuitem Automatically decrypt/verify messages is hidden, but the
 setting still takes effect. When checked, the emails are
 decrypted/verified without the need to press Ctrl+D. Can't test
 this on Debian though... Onno

On Mac OS X, using a recent nightly (should behave identical to 1.6 in
this respect), the menu item iself is always visible in the OpenPGP
menu independent of the Hide Expert settings. Generally, menu
handling is different on Mac OS X having only one menu at top of the
screen, not at the top of the windows, this may explain the difference.

If you have selected Automatically decrypt/verify messages, Enigmail
will do so. If you have deselected this option, Enigmail shows nothing
in the message header pane for text/plain signed or encrypted messages
(like Ono's). For PGP/MIME signed message (like dkg's) it will show
Possibly PGP/MIME encrypted or signed message; click Decrypt button
to verify with a grey background. PGP/MIME encrypted (or
encrypted+signed) messages, will be decrypted automatically despite
the setting not to do so.

HTH

Ludwig
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Re: [Enigmail] Automatically decrypt/verify messages not working in 1.6 or 1.5?

2013-12-14 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
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On 13.12.13 22:29, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 in http://bugs.debian.org/732067, a user reports that the checkbox 
 Automatically decrypt/verfiy messages in the OpenPGP menu isn't 
 working any more.
 
 Apparently, the menu option is only available when show expert 
 preferences is chosen in the OpenPGP preferences dialog.
 
 The inital report came in about version 1.5, but i can confirm the
 same misbehavior with 1.6.
 
 can other people test if this option works for them?

Please re-read the bug report. It is not about Automatically
decrypt/verfiy messages but about the fact that the user has to type
the password every time. The menu option is about attempting to
decrypt the email, and not related to any password timeout settings...

- -Patrick

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Re: [Enigmail] Automatically decrypt/verify messages not working in 1.6 or 1.5?

2013-12-14 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 12/14/2013 09:23 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
 On 13.12.13 22:29, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 in http://bugs.debian.org/732067, a user reports that the checkbox 
 Automatically decrypt/verfiy messages in the OpenPGP menu isn't 
 working any more.
 
 Apparently, the menu option is only available when show expert 
 preferences is chosen in the OpenPGP preferences dialog.
 
 The inital report came in about version 1.5, but i can confirm the
 same misbehavior with 1.6.
 
 can other people test if this option works for them?
 
 Please re-read the bug report. It is not about Automatically
 decrypt/verfiy messages but about the fact that the user has to type
 the password every time. The menu option is about attempting to
 decrypt the email, and not related to any password timeout settings...

I agree that the report mixes the two things; but i'm pretty sure the
issue is about automatically decrypt/verify messages.  I've asked the
original reporter to clarify on the bug report; hopefully that will help.

Anyhow, in my testing, it does look to me like the automatically
decrypt/verify messages checkboxed menuentry doesn't have the desired
effect, at least on icedove 24.1.1 and enigmail 1.6.

--dkg



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[Enigmail] Automatically decrypt/verify messages not working in 1.6 or 1.5?

2013-12-13 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
in http://bugs.debian.org/732067, a user reports that the checkbox
Automatically decrypt/verfiy messages in the OpenPGP menu isn't
working any more.

Apparently, the menu option is only available when show expert
preferences is chosen in the OpenPGP preferences dialog.

The inital report came in about version 1.5, but i can confirm the same
misbehavior with 1.6.

can other people test if this option works for them?

--dkg



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