Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
Hello Patrick et al. On 09.09.20 08:01, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > In Junior mode, there is no visible key management, and almost no > possibility to configure anything. You automatically get a key for all > your accounts, and encryption is done automatically whenever possible. > You don't need to care for it in most ways. Key verfication is done via > a handshake that uses trust words instead of fingerprints. In theory, > there would be key synchronization across devices, but that was not > finished in the pEp engine for Enigmail (AFAIK, it's now available in > pEp). The UI is different than Enigmail. Small correction here: you get for any account an own key pair or an available key pair is used, if key size is sufficient (e.g., >=RSA-2048). This is to avoid easy correlation by public key; so every account is considered a new identity, so e.g.: anonym...@hacktivism.ch would be an identity as well as hernani@pep.foundation is one. They would get distinct key pairs generated by default. As for how KeySync looks, see this: https://www.pep.security/docs/general_information.html#sync And yes, p≡p for Thunderbird has KeySync working: you can sync your devices with other TB instances, with Android, iOS and Outlook devices, if you use them with a common email address. -- p≡p foundation: https://pep.foundation/ 0xCB5738652768F7E9.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 09/09/2020 01:09, Mark wrote: > Thanks for the explanation of how pEp is connected to this. I do have a > few other questions that hopefully you will answer. > > 1) What does the pEp addon do in addition to or better than the built in > OpenPGP? In other words what are the advantages to installing this > add-on over the built in support? Again, please read the pEp documentation, or ask the pEp people. I'm not affiliated to pEp, so I won't answer this. > 2) Can you explain the differences between pEp junior and classic modes? In Junior mode, there is no visible key management, and almost no possibility to configure anything. You automatically get a key for all your accounts, and encryption is done automatically whenever possible. You don't need to care for it in most ways. Key verfication is done via a handshake that uses trust words instead of fingerprints. In theory, there would be key synchronization across devices, but that was not finished in the pEp engine for Enigmail (AFAIK, it's now available in pEp). The UI is different than Enigmail. -Patrick > On 9/7/2020 10:40 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >> On 07.09.2020 21:55, Phil Kane wrote: >>> On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >>> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail version that will work with TB 78. >>> If that is the case, just what is pEp? What does it replace? >> The main idea of pEp is to provide message security without bothering >> the user as much as possible. User should not need to deal with key >> management and should not need to care to enable encryption manually. >> >> If you want to know what pEp is, then read the following: >> https://www.pep.security/en/faq/ >> >> Enigmail 2.0 and 2.1 contains a pEp Junior Mode. In this mode, Enigmail >> uses the pEp engine for crypto-operations, and the user interface is >> reduced to a very small set of security indicators and dialogs. >> >> As Enigmail will not support TB 78, the pEp developers decided to create >> their own add-on from scratch. The add-on is the quasi-continuation of >> the pEp Junior Mode. Those who use Enigmail in the pEp Junior Mode are >> offered to move to that new pEp for Thunderbird addon instead of being >> migrated to OpenPGP in Thunderbird. >> >> -Patrick >> >> >> ___ >> enigmail-users mailing list >> enigmail-users@enigmail.net >> To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: >> https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
Thanks for the explanation of how pEp is connected to this. I do have a few other questions that hopefully you will answer. 1) What does the pEp addon do in addition to or better than the built in OpenPGP? In other words what are the advantages to installing this add-on over the built in support? 2) Can you explain the differences between pEp junior and classic modes? I didn't really see these answered in the FAQ Thanks On 9/7/2020 10:40 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 07.09.2020 21:55, Phil Kane wrote: >> On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >> >>> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail >>> version that will work with TB 78. >> If that is the case, just what is pEp? What does it replace? > The main idea of pEp is to provide message security without bothering > the user as much as possible. User should not need to deal with key > management and should not need to care to enable encryption manually. > > If you want to know what pEp is, then read the following: > https://www.pep.security/en/faq/ > > Enigmail 2.0 and 2.1 contains a pEp Junior Mode. In this mode, Enigmail > uses the pEp engine for crypto-operations, and the user interface is > reduced to a very small set of security indicators and dialogs. > > As Enigmail will not support TB 78, the pEp developers decided to create > their own add-on from scratch. The add-on is the quasi-continuation of > the pEp Junior Mode. Those who use Enigmail in the pEp Junior Mode are > offered to move to that new pEp for Thunderbird addon instead of being > migrated to OpenPGP in Thunderbird. > > -Patrick > > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 07.09.2020 21:55, Phil Kane wrote: > On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > >> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail >> version that will work with TB 78. > > If that is the case, just what is pEp? What does it replace? The main idea of pEp is to provide message security without bothering the user as much as possible. User should not need to deal with key management and should not need to care to enable encryption manually. If you want to know what pEp is, then read the following: https://www.pep.security/en/faq/ Enigmail 2.0 and 2.1 contains a pEp Junior Mode. In this mode, Enigmail uses the pEp engine for crypto-operations, and the user interface is reduced to a very small set of security indicators and dialogs. As Enigmail will not support TB 78, the pEp developers decided to create their own add-on from scratch. The add-on is the quasi-continuation of the pEp Junior Mode. Those who use Enigmail in the pEp Junior Mode are offered to move to that new pEp for Thunderbird addon instead of being migrated to OpenPGP in Thunderbird. -Patrick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
True, but the first (and only) place I have heard of p≡p in regards to TB is here on this list actually with this same subject line, so I figured it was fair game. On 9/7/2020 4:51 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> My asking was a sort of a joke although still not sure what the purpose >> of p≡p based on the following text from the Thunderbird 78 blog: > > Given that Enigmail is not p≡p and doesn't work with TB78, perhaps > you'd be best served asking at a mailing list that caters to one or > the other? > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
My asking was a sort of a joke although still not sure what the purpose of p≡p based on the following text from the Thunderbird 78 blog: Given that Enigmail is not p≡p and doesn't work with TB78, perhaps you'd be best served asking at a mailing list that caters to one or the other? ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
Exactly my question... On 9/7/2020 12:55 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > >> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail >> version that will work with TB 78. > If that is the case, just what is pEp? What does it replace? > > == Phil Kane > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 7 Sep 2020, at 17:54, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > > >> >> So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued to >> work with TB 78? :) > > Won't and can't exist. Please stop asking. > > We've given the reasons many, many times. Originally, the Thunderbird user > interface was done using a Mozilla technology called XPCOM. Mozilla has since > abandoned XPCOM; moving forward, all extensions have to be written as > WebExtensions. > > So all the XPCOM in Enigmail, the stuff that's accumulated over almost twenty > years of development? None of it works any more. > > Enigmail cannot be ported to TB78. We would have to literally start over > rewriting the user interface in WebExtension. The finished product would not > be Enigmail as you've come to know it: it would be something completely new > and different. > > If you want to develop your own Enigmail successor as a WebExtension, knock > yourself out. But please don't call it Enigmail. :) Maybe call it MailVelope? That’s a Firefox browser webextension that works in FX78 and higher for webmail (-: Onno smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued to work with TB 78? :) Won't and can't exist. Please stop asking. We've given the reasons many, many times. Originally, the Thunderbird user interface was done using a Mozilla technology called XPCOM. Mozilla has since abandoned XPCOM; moving forward, all extensions have to be written as WebExtensions. So all the XPCOM in Enigmail, the stuff that's accumulated over almost twenty years of development? None of it works any more. Enigmail cannot be ported to TB78. We would have to literally start over rewriting the user interface in WebExtension. The finished product would not be Enigmail as you've come to know it: it would be something completely new and different. If you want to develop your own Enigmail successor as a WebExtension, knock yourself out. But please don't call it Enigmail. :) ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
Am 7. September 2020 06:18:46 MESZ schrieb Mark : >So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued >to work with TB 78? :) > >Just curious as to what is p≡p is doing differently (better?) over the >default Open PGP implementation. We kept hearing they were doing this to >make it more streamlined and not require additional add-ons but now we >have an add-on. I'm not trying to be confrontational but honestly >wondering why. > >Thanks > >On 9/6/2020 12:08 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >> The philosophy of pEp is different than the one of Thunderbird. It's >> perfectly legitimate that there's more than one solution for encryption. >> >> The Enigmail migrator in TB 78 is only for users of the classical mode >> of Enigmail. Users of pEp are offered to install pEp for Thunderbird. >> And this is now also prepared in Enigmail for TB 68. >> >> -Patrick >> >> On 06.09.2020 19:39, Mark wrote: >>> Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has >>> built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this >>> addon for? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> On 8/30/2020 12:33 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: > FYI: > > The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by > default in version 78.2.0 > > It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and > testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According to the release notes: Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running version 78.0 or higher. -Patrick >> >> ___ >> enigmail-users mailing list >> enigmail-users@enigmail.net >> To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: >> https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail version that will work with TB 78. Patrick___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued to work with TB 78? :) Just curious as to what is p≡p is doing differently (better?) over the default Open PGP implementation. We kept hearing they were doing this to make it more streamlined and not require additional add-ons but now we have an add-on. I'm not trying to be confrontational but honestly wondering why. Thanks On 9/6/2020 12:08 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > The philosophy of pEp is different than the one of Thunderbird. It's > perfectly legitimate that there's more than one solution for encryption. > > The Enigmail migrator in TB 78 is only for users of the classical mode > of Enigmail. Users of pEp are offered to install pEp for Thunderbird. > And this is now also prepared in Enigmail for TB 68. > > -Patrick > > On 06.09.2020 19:39, Mark wrote: >> Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has >> built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this >> addon for? >> >> Thanks >> >> On 8/30/2020 12:33 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >>> On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: FYI: The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by default in version 78.2.0 It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 >>> Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According >>> to the release notes: >>> >>> Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from >>> https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version >>> 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier >>> versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running >>> version 78.0 or higher. >>> >>> -Patrick > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 06.09.20 19:39, Mark wrote: > Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has > built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this > addon for? This add-on is for automatic email encryption, creating a key pair for each account you configure and/or importing secret and public keys from your Enigmail settings, be that for "Junior" or "classic" Enigmail users. As a special feature, it also to easily synchronize your secret keys among your devices, if they're using p≡p and a common email address. User doc: https://www.pep.security/docs/general_information.html#pp-sync IETF draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pep-keysync-02 Greets --hernani -- p≡p foundation: https://pep.foundation/ 0xCB5738652768F7E9.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
The philosophy of pEp is different than the one of Thunderbird. It's perfectly legitimate that there's more than one solution for encryption. The Enigmail migrator in TB 78 is only for users of the classical mode of Enigmail. Users of pEp are offered to install pEp for Thunderbird. And this is now also prepared in Enigmail for TB 68. -Patrick On 06.09.2020 19:39, Mark wrote: > Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has > built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this > addon for? > > Thanks > > On 8/30/2020 12:33 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >> On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: >>> FYI: >>> >>> The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by >>> default in version 78.2.0 >>> >>> It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and >>> testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 >> Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According >> to the release notes: >> >> Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from >> https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version >> 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier >> versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running >> version 78.0 or higher. >> >> -Patrick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this addon for? Thanks On 8/30/2020 12:33 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: >> FYI: >> >> The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by >> default in version 78.2.0 >> >> It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and >> testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 > Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According > to the release notes: > > Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from > https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version > 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier > versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running > version 78.0 or higher. > > -Patrick > > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
Chello folks On 31.08.20 22:15, Hernâni Marques (p≡p foundation) wrote: >> p≡p for Thunderbird, in turn, will become available by tomorrow, August >> 31st, and work--as Patrick already said--with TB68 and TB78. > > JFYI, reloaded: > > We postpone that a bit now, because there are some blockers we couldn't > get rid of yet. OK, we're online now with a beta for macOS and Windows; GNU/Linux and xBSD installers will follow! => https://pep.software/thunderbird There's an updater on the desktop level, which will tell you when there are updates to update all the things pEp; the default is to do auto-updates. You'll see a "p≡p" icon. Feedback is very much appreciated and bugs can be filed here: https://gitea.pep.foundation/pEp.foundation/pEp4Thunderbird_PublicBugTracking For users there's also a forum: https://pep.community/ Greets --hernani -- p≡p foundation: https://pep.foundation/ 0xCB5738652768F7E9.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 30.08.20 13:14, Hernâni Marques (p≡p foundation) wrote: > Chello folks! Chello folks, again! > JFYI: > > p≡p for Thunderbird, in turn, will become available by tomorrow, August > 31st, and work--as Patrick already said--with TB68 and TB78. JFYI, reloaded: We postpone that a bit now, because there are some blockers we couldn't get rid of yet. Greets --hernani -- p≡p foundation: https://pep.foundation/ 0xCB5738652768F7E9.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 30.08.20 16:49, Kai Engert wrote: Thunderbird 78.2.1 contains a last minute change, which causes the migration from Enigmail to fail. We're currently discussing how to best fix this. If you are still using Thunderbird 68 and Enigmail, please continue to wait with updating. A fix has been published. Before you attempt the migration, please ensure you're using Enigmail version 2.2.2 in Thunderbird 78. If you had previously attempted to migrate and ran into a failure, then you can manually try again. With Enigmail 2.2.2 installed, the global menubar, Tools menu, contains a command "Migrate Enigmail Settings". Select that, a tab opens, which contains a button "Start Migration Now". Patrick, thanks a lot for releasing the update so quickly. Regards Kai ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 30.08.20 09:33, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According to the release notes: Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running version 78.0 or higher. Thunderbird 78.2.1 contains a last minute change, which causes the migration from Enigmail to fail. We're currently discussing how to best fix this. If you are still using Thunderbird 68 and Enigmail, please continue to wait with updating. The fix to the migration is tracked at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1661967 Patrick, it would be great if you could help us by releasing an updated Enigmail 2.2.x to fix this issue, I've sent you private mail with the fix that works for me. Thanks and Regards Kai ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
Chello folks! On 30.08.20 09:33, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: >> FYI: >> >> The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by >> default in version 78.2.0 >> >> It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and >> testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 > > Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According > to the release notes: > > Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from > https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version > 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier > versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running > version 78.0 or higher. JFYI: p≡p for Thunderbird, in turn, will become available by tomorrow, August 31st, and work--as Patrick already said--with TB68 and TB78. See also Twitter thread on that: https://twitter.com/pEpFoundation/status/1300021082481741824 It'll not use GnuPG anymore or RNP as OpenPGP backend as shipped by Mozilla Thunderbird, but Sequoia PGP, our own implementation; written in Rust: https://sequoia-pgp.org/ An audit of the p≡p engine core and also Sequoia is being conducted. Greets --hernani -- p≡p foundation: https://pep.foundation/ 0xCB5738652768F7E9.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote: > FYI: > > The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by > default in version 78.2.0 > > It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and > testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According to the release notes: Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running version 78.0 or higher. -Patrick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 24.08.20 22:42, Phil Kane wrote: On 8/24/2020 12:39 PM, Kai Engert wrote: The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by default in version 78.2.0 It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 I'm confused. I'm using TB v 68.11.0 (64 bit) for Windows 10 and it reports as the latest. Have i missed a large series of upgrades? You haven't. Although Thunderbird 78 was released two months ago, we have recommended that all Enigmail users should continue to use Thunderbird 68 for another while. The reason for waiting is: Thunderbird 78 can no longer be used with Enigmail. Instead, Thunderbird 78 will have integrated support for OpenPGP. However, that new code wasn't ready yet, so we have recommended that users wait. For this reason, we have not yet enabled automatic updates from 68 to 78. Please continue to wait until Thunderbird 68 will automatically suggest you to upgrade to 78. Please also see my other email about how Thunderbird 78 will behave differently than Enigmail. Regards Kai ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0
On 8/24/2020 12:39 PM, Kai Engert wrote: > > The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by > default in version 78.2.0 > > It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and > testing by volunteers. It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1 I'm confused. I'm using TB v 68.11.0 (64 bit) for Windows 10 and it reports as the latest. Have i missed a large series of upgrades? Phil Kane signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
