Re: [E-devel] key-binding bug

2006-03-05 Thread Aleksej Struk
  The first thing I want to tell is key-binding.
  This feature is extreamly usefull, and I do not imagine a life in linux
 without
  this feature. Still, I think there is minor bug in key-binding in
 Enlightenment.
  Recently I tried to bind keys. Everything worked fine untill I tried to
 bind key Ctrl + ;

This is not a bug. Basically you have to replace special symbol with a
full name.
In your example you have to assign the following binding : CTRL+semicol
instead of Ctrl + ;

  to switch to right desktop. It does not work :-( For switching to left
 desktop
  I use Ctrl + h and it works perfectly, but somehow Ctrl + ; does not
 work.
  I had similar problem with Blackbox ( also could not bind Ctrl + ; ) ,
 while

Probably you have to do the same in blackbox also, but I'm not
actually sure about BB.

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Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: apps/e raster

2006-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:39:40 + Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,
 
 sorry for disturbing .. Already fixed and in cvs. It was just missing
 'return 1' in e_grabinput_get function ;)

oh - oops. thats was silly of me. i was going thru and putting alll that stuff 
and forgot to return 1 on success :)

 sn
 
 On 3/4/06, Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Some comments on desklock. Basically it fails to start now. It seams that
  it cannot break some key/mouse grab windows. Actually this happens even
  after E starts, and when there are no windows opened.
 
  I suspect that desklock cannot realise E grabs and because of this
  fails to start.
 
  Any comments or solutions ?
 
  On 3/4/06, enlightenment-cvs@lists.sourceforge.net
  enlightenment-cvs@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
   Enlightenment CVS committal
  
   Author  : raster
   Project : e17
   Module  : apps/e
  
   Dir : e17/apps/e/src/bin
  
  
   Modified Files:
   Makefile.am e_desklock.c e_grabinput.c e_grabinput.h
   e_includes.h e_int_config_background.c e_int_config_desklock.c
   e_int_config_theme.c e_widget_image.c
   Added Files:
   e_widget_preview.c e_widget_preview.h
  
  
   Log Message:
  
  
   add a preview widget (includes a livethumb for live downscaling - notice
   previews of animated bgs's... animate now). fixed problems with image
   widget withleaks and other stuff... also desklok tries to abord if grabs
   fail and agressively tries to disable existing grabs
 
 
 
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Re: [E-devel] Re: Evas double or triple click

2006-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 17:18:32 +0100 Simon TRENY [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Any comments about that?

marked in my mail... :)

 On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:47:06 +0100
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey,
  
  Thanks raster for the quick fix of the bug on event-flags in
  Evas :) But I think the behavior is still not perfect. First of all,
  clicking quickly on an object then double clicking on another object
  (which was detected as a triple click before the fix) is now not
  detected as a double click while it should. Also, i think the
  behavior should be a little bit different for smart objects. You
  should be able to do a single click on an object while the the parent
  object should be double clicked. To be clearer: if your smart object
  is an icon, with 2 child objects: the image and the label. If you
  single click quickly on the image and then on the label, each of
  these object should emit an single-click event. But the parent smart
  object (the icon) should emit a double-click event on the second
  click. To do that, I guess the best way is to add
  last_click_timestamp directly in the structure of an evas_object and
  when its clicked, compared the difference between the two timestamps
  and emit the event with the correct flags.
  
  Regards,
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[E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread David Seikel
The new menu generator is ready for testing.  It's not ready for prime
time, but it would be helpful to get it tested on a variety of boxen.

The test procedure is this -

Move your ~/.e/e/applications/favorite to a safe place, then nuke it.

Optionally do the same for ~/.e/e/applications/all.

Go to e17/apps/e_utils/src/bin/e17genmenu (yes I know it's a bit
strange having a separate tree there, it's a temporary thing, blame
devilhorns).

Do the usual autofoo three step.

e17genmenu --fdo

After that has finished running, E will by unresponsive for a few
minutes.  This is a known issue with the eap cache regeneration.

This will generate E17 menus based on whatever freedesktop.org menus
you have installed in your system.  It should find all the things that
are supposed to be in your fdo menus.  Not everything will have a proper
icon, and there is not currently a method of selecting the fdo icon
theme you want to use.  Also, not all the re arranging, categorising,
and deletions/hiding is being done properly yet.  There are still a few
big parts of the spec being ignored.

Send me the last line that is output (the one with the timing stats)
and let me know what distro and CPU speed you tested it on.

If there are major parts of your fdo menus that have not been found,
please find out what directories the .desktop files are in and let me
know what they are.  Same applies if there are .menu files being
ignored.

Restore your original eaps and menus when you have finished playing
with the fdo menus.


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Re: [E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread Laurence Vanek

David Seikel wrote:


The new menu generator is ready for testing.  It's not ready for prime
time, but it would be helpful to get it tested on a variety of boxen.

The test procedure is this -

Move your ~/.e/e/applications/favorite to a safe place, then nuke it.

Optionally do the same for ~/.e/e/applications/all.

Go to e17/apps/e_utils/src/bin/e17genmenu (yes I know it's a bit
strange having a separate tree there, it's a temporary thing, blame
devilhorns).

Do the usual autofoo three step.

e17genmenu --fdo

After that has finished running, E will by unresponsive for a few
minutes.  This is a known issue with the eap cache regeneration.

This will generate E17 menus based on whatever freedesktop.org menus
you have installed in your system.  It should find all the things that
are supposed to be in your fdo menus.  Not everything will have a proper
icon, and there is not currently a method of selecting the fdo icon
theme you want to use.  Also, not all the re arranging, categorising,
and deletions/hiding is being done properly yet.  There are still a few
big parts of the spec being ignored.

Send me the last line that is output (the one with the timing stats)
and let me know what distro and CPU speed you tested it on.

If there are major parts of your fdo menus that have not been found,
please find out what directories the .desktop files are in and let me
know what they are.  Same applies if there are .menu files being
ignored.

Restore your original eaps and menus when you have finished playing
with the fdo menus.
 


David -

got this after following your directions:

=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] applications]$ e17genmenu --fdo
ERROR: /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/all doesn't exist. Where are the 
eapps?



perhaps I should not have blown away

~/.e/e/applications/all

Im running Fedora Core 4 (updated).  





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Re: [E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread Laurence Vanek

Laurence Vanek wrote:


David Seikel wrote:


The new menu generator is ready for testing.  It's not ready for prime
time, but it would be helpful to get it tested on a variety of boxen.

The test procedure is this -

Move your ~/.e/e/applications/favorite to a safe place, then nuke it.

Optionally do the same for ~/.e/e/applications/all.

Go to e17/apps/e_utils/src/bin/e17genmenu (yes I know it's a bit
strange having a separate tree there, it's a temporary thing, blame
devilhorns).

Do the usual autofoo three step.

e17genmenu --fdo

After that has finished running, E will by unresponsive for a few
minutes.  This is a known issue with the eap cache regeneration.

This will generate E17 menus based on whatever freedesktop.org menus
you have installed in your system.  It should find all the things that
are supposed to be in your fdo menus.  Not everything will have a proper
icon, and there is not currently a method of selecting the fdo icon
theme you want to use.  Also, not all the re arranging, categorising,
and deletions/hiding is being done properly yet.  There are still a few
big parts of the spec being ignored.

Send me the last line that is output (the one with the timing stats)
and let me know what distro and CPU speed you tested it on.

If there are major parts of your fdo menus that have not been found,
please find out what directories the .desktop files are in and let me
know what they are.  Same applies if there are .menu files being
ignored.

Restore your original eaps and menus when you have finished playing
with the fdo menus.
 


David -

got this after following your directions:

=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] applications]$ e17genmenu --fdo
ERROR: /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/all doesn't exist. Where are the 
eapps?



perhaps I should not have blown away

~/.e/e/applications/all

Im running Fedora Core 4 (updated). 




After restoring my ~/.e/e/applications/all directory  eap files then 
running


e17genmenu --fdo

I get:

=
.
.
.

MAKING MENU - MENU_PATH Applications/OfficeMENU  
Office Office.directory
MAKING MENU - MENU_PATH Applications/SystemMENU  
System System.directory
MAKING MENU - MENU_PATH Applications/Other MENU   O  
Other Other.directory
ERROR: Cannot Create Order File 
/home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/favorite/.order





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Re: [E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread David Seikel
My mistake, I should have said to nuke only the contents of those two
directories, leaving the actual directories there, but empty.


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Re: [E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread Laurence Vanek

David Seikel wrote:


My mistake, I should have said to nuke only the contents of those two
directories, leaving the actual directories there, but empty.
 


ok, did that.  I get:

==
.
.
.
.
BUG: References 1 /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/all
BUG: References 2 /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/favorite
BUG: References 1 /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/all

Total time 2.762 seconds, finding fdo paths 2.621, converting fdo menus 
0.006, generating 0 (rejected 0) eaps in 28 menus 0.105, finding icons 
0.000, generating eap caches 0.035.

==

Im running Fedora Core 4 (updated) with box that has 2.4 GHz P4., 1 Gig RAM.

I hope this is more like what you were looking for.



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Re: [E-devel] .eap files for modules

2006-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:04:09 +0900 David Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Greetings,
 
 I've been playing with some ideas for how modules might be able to have
 their own eaps (there is a TODO item for this + it would also fix some minor
 issues with i18n in modules), and am looking for some comments.
 
 Here are two patches
 1) (intleapp.patch) Minor fixes for localized eapps
 
 Currently e_apps.c uses LANG to look for localized strings in the eaps, but
 LANG may have an encoding value on the end of it (e.g. ja_JP.UTF-8), while
 the eap file might contain an a name[ja] value, or name[zh_CN]. This
 little patch will improve that situation.

most good. yes yes. definitely.

 2) (moduleeap.patch) Proposed changes to support module .eaps
 
 The e_module_new and e_module_find functions use a name arg which
 corresponds to the name of the dir the module was installed in. But modules
 might like to have their name localized, or even simply displayed with a
 Capital letter, i.e, instead of clock, display Clock in English or
 tokei in Japanese.

yup. that's why name and label should be separated. the module name should 
stay as is - a canonical name always the same, but the DISPLAY of the name 
(title, label) should be translatable :)

 So instead of getting a list of names (for the e_module_* calls), a list of
 paths (for the icons), and a list of localized names (for the widget
 labels), I've tried to add E_App based API calls to e_module, for use by
 e_int_config_modules.
 - e_module_available_list (return a list of E_Apps, one for each installed
 module - I added a check here to make sure that the module.so actually
 exists so that uninstalled modules are discluded)
 - e_module_icon_get (return the .eap icon if it's there, otherwise fall back
 to the existing module_icon.pngs)

let me look at this - but this is defintiely the way to go.

 Briefly, these changes support modules with a module.eap file in the
 module's directory, and those modules that don't have an eap in that
 location have a dummy E_App created for them (just in RAM).

i'm tempted to say that if the moduel has no .eap - it should be just not 
listed - enforcing some sort of consistency and good design by modules (to 
provide a proper label, icon, etc. etc.) woudl be good imho.

 * I bumped the e_module.h E_MODULE_API_VERSION because I added an E_App to
 the E_Module struct. 3rd party modules will be rejected, but just rebuilding
 them will be sufficient to get them working again.

true. :)

 - issue: E_App abuse. some of the stuff I've put in E_App fields is pretty
 damn dirty
 1) e_app_new (currently) requires a value to be present in the .eap file exe
 field or it'll return NULL instead of a new E_App. Rather than loosen that

correct :)

 restriction, I've stored a partial path in my test module.eap to the
 module.so file in there, which is somewhat useful elsewhere...

hmm - not sure that's useful - as the module may contain .so's for multiple 
architectures (eg amd64 may contain an i386 and a amd64 .so - if you share your 
homedir on nfs between multiple arch systems u may have a ppc, i386, amd64, 
sparc, etc. etc. etc. module .so... that was the idea of the subdirs for 
module.so) :)

 2) the dummy E_Apps for modules without .eap files is one case - maybe not
 such a big deal as the idea is to move to eaps or some other data file
 anyway.

i would personally think just removing this code would be the way to go - ship 
a module.eap - or don't get loaded :)

 - issue: it would be nice if an E_App could be directly associated 1-to-1
 with the corresponding widget, but I've not found a way to do that yet. Thus
 currently the new stuff walks lists doing string comparisons on the widget
 label and the name in the E_Apps to find the right one.

the problem is an eap may have multiple associations. a border, multiple menu 
items, buttons in ibar etc. etc. the walking isnt too bad right now imho.

 - issue: there may be issues if users try to use enlightenment_remote
 -module-* while using the config dialog at the same time - this stuff still
 needs more testing in that area.

yes. a LOT of config has that problem. i am wondering what we should do about 
it. despite the effort with e_remote - i am beginning to think - to reduce code 
size and maintenance - of literally removing e remote calls if they are fully 
implemented in a gui. i know people will cry and moan - but having to implement 
a gui AND ipc code for all config options is a lot of work. many new options 
have no ipc as they go direct to a gui. i am thinking that just to save us all 
work - remove the ipc config stuff. in fact just remove e_remote... yes people 
will complain - if we didn't have an open development process they wouldn't. 
people seem to hate change - even if they use cvs and know its subject to 
change - INCLUDING removal of things.

anyway - in removing the ipc, we also remove all the code needing to handle 
if/when the modules are screwed with from elsewhere 

Re: [E-devel] discussion: desktop lock functionality

2006-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:45:26 + Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

   Hello raster,
 
   Thanks for a great tutorial how to implement a desktop locking
   windows. However, it is already exists. It was really easy!.
   Moreover I learned edje interfaces as well. :)

:)

   Now I have the following question. First of all I decided to
   create a possibility to set a personilized desktop locking password.
   However, I want to implement it through a config dialog. I want
   to put some options in this dialog that will allow to enter the
   password. Since, everybody would like to have this passwd permanent,
   I thinkg to store int inside E configuration. More precisely in 
   e_config datastructure.
 
   How I understand, I have to insert a new field into this
   structure(e_config.h). Moreover, as I remmember, after changing the
   config structure, E required to redo my desktop config, since the
   version of configuration file was increased.
 
   My question is : if I insert new data fields into config, should I 
   increase a version number of config ? or I can leave everything
   as it is ?

that depends. by default if you add new fields, the old config will have 
nothing about this in it. it will default to 0, or NULL. if this is a 
safe/useful/normal value for the config value you do not need to increase the 
config file version. if the config value NEEDS to have some sane value to work, 
then you do need to increase the version. the idea is that during development 
we will be playing with the config all the time - and we simply dump old config 
if its incompatible. in between releases 0.17.0 - 0.17.1, 0.17 - 0.18 etc.) we 
will KNOW what fields have been added between the old config revision and the 
current one and thus can sanely fill in the missing fields and thus upgrade 
the users config transparently. there is no need to add such code during 
development as it simple makes the code bigger, longer and harder to manage.

   Second, after I finish with personal desktop lock password I will step
   to sys wide auth through the pam. However my idea is to have both

for now its looking good. i suggest cleaning up the config though. personally i 
don't think setting the desklock bg is that useful and it complicates the 
config dialog a lot. (as desklock is mostly active when you are not AT the 
machine - does it really matter much? and by the time u wandered away long 
enough the screen will have blanked and you won't see it anyway). anyway - i'm 
dubious if the code and maintenance and fixing etc. is worth it atm. ( i need 
to revamp the whole bg selecting thing so its centralised in 1 place and not 
copy  pasted around). also i think i need to add separators/headers to ilist 
to partition/segment the lists.

   auth possibilities. However, I think to introduce some sort of
   auth precedence. So, if the personal passwd is set, then  pam is not
   used. And vice versa, if personal passwd is not set, then pam will be
   used.

sure. that make sense. the hardest bit is all the pam build, detect, etc. etc. 
etc. code.

   regards,
   aleksej
 
  
 // NB: this is from the view of doing an e17 module.
 // 
 // you can create a fullscreen window using e_popup and then just fill it with
 // some edje object. check the e_popup.h for api. you can create an input only
 // window and grab the mouse and keyboard to that window alone - this way you
 have // taken control of all input devices and sent their input to a
 particular window // (see e_exebuf.c or e_winlist.c for examples). they both
 do this trick and ONLY // process keybindings selectively themseleves, if
 they desire. now u have stolen // they keybo9ard and mouse, overlayed the
 screen with a big popup (just use a // very high layer like 1 for the
 popup layer) so you can't see anything // (remember - you probably want to go
 thru the list of all managers, then each // container per manager, then each
 zone per container (each of these list their // sub-components so u can just
 walk this list easily), you want to create a popup // PER zone that exists
 and maybe only put a blank or disabled object on all // zones except 1
 where you will accept some unlock mechanism (for now i suggest // you just
 put a button u press and wait for a signal from teh edje object when // the
 thing is unlocked, also just handle the Escape key to abort)). now u have //
 the basics of snarfing control of the screen - ALL screens (dont forget that
 - // there may be multiple managers, multilple containers per manager and
 multiple // zones per container), you have the NEXT stage - how do you
 unlock? well - u // need a way to accept some authorization. youc an do this
 2 ways. 1. traditional // password entry - you will need a working entry box
 (in fact you can just do // this yourself with key down events - see
 e_exebuf.c for an example) and just // display * chars instead of what was
 actually typed (for texting you are going // to want to see the 

Re: [E-devel] Ebuntu - Based on E17

2006-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:03:27 -0600 Hawkwind [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 For those that don't know, I thought everyone would like to see read about
 this:
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ebuntu
 
 After Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu and Nubuntu, it seems that a new
 product is about to join the growing family of Ubuntu-based
 sub-projects and derivatives. Called Ebuntu, the new initiative is
 designed for those users who enjoy the spectacular desktop effects of
 the latest Enlightenment E17 window manager: Ebuntu aims to provide
 an enhanced and attractive user interface. The secondary aim of Ebuntu
 is to show off the eye-candy capabilities

sounds cool. will keep my eyes and ears open for news on this :)

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Re: [E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:53:28 -0600 Laurence Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Total time 2.762 seconds, finding fdo paths 2.621, converting fdo
 menus 0.006, generating 0 (rejected 0) eaps in 28 menus 0.105,
 finding icons 0.000, generating eap caches 0.035.
 ==
 
 Im running Fedora Core 4 (updated) with box that has 2.4 GHz P4., 1
 Gig RAM.
 
 I hope this is more like what you were looking for.

Yes, although it's a bit disappointing that it created no eaps.  Do you
have gnome or kde installed?  Do they have menus with lots of stuff in
them?

I'll wait for others to try it and report the results before I
investigate further, could be any number of reasons for that.


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Re: [E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread Laurence Vanek

Laurence Vanek wrote:


David Seikel wrote:


My mistake, I should have said to nuke only the contents of those two
directories, leaving the actual directories there, but empty.
 


ok, did that.  I get:

==
.
.
.
.
BUG: References 1 /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/all
BUG: References 2 /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/favorite
BUG: References 1 /home/lvanek/.e/e/applications/all

Total time 2.762 seconds, finding fdo paths 2.621, converting fdo 
menus 0.006, generating 0 (rejected 0) eaps in 28 menus 0.105, finding 
icons 0.000, generating eap caches 0.035.

==

Im running Fedora Core 4 (updated) with box that has 2.4 GHz P4., 1 
Gig RAM.


I hope this is more like what you were looking for.



This created caches but no  entries in .order files.  Therefore no 
entries or directory structures in favorite menu.  I also believe we 
need to have ~/.e/e/applications/all filled with eaps before trying this.




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Re: [E-devel] The new menu generator is ready for testing.

2006-03-05 Thread Laurence Vanek

David Seikel wrote:


On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:53:28 -0600 Laurence Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 


Total time 2.762 seconds, finding fdo paths 2.621, converting fdo
menus 0.006, generating 0 (rejected 0) eaps in 28 menus 0.105,
finding icons 0.000, generating eap caches 0.035.
==

Im running Fedora Core 4 (updated) with box that has 2.4 GHz P4., 1
Gig RAM.

I hope this is more like what you were looking for.
   



Yes, although it's a bit disappointing that it created no eaps.  Do you
have gnome or kde installed?  Do they have menus with lots of stuff in
them?

I'll wait for others to try it and report the results before I
investigate further, could be any number of reasons for that.
 

I have both installed but do not run KDE.  Run e17 as default most of 
the time.  Only run gnome when have major e17 issue (which hasnt happen 
for a long time).


I could repopulate the .order files but I guess thats what e17genmenu is 
supposed to do.




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