[E-devel] (e16) update of ja.po for e16
Hi all This is an update of ja.po for E16. --- Thank you for telling me the truth. --- HAL9000 in 2010 Yasufumi Haga [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage3.nifty.com/peterpan/ fingerprint:0EFA 299A BC32 7D68 1FEF BA2B 804E 9B15 C4F0 F9F0 ja.po.gz Description: Binary data - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] E Physics Engine
Hi rephorm,I saw your E Physics work and both as an E zealot AND a physicist it's difficult not to poke my nose into this initiative. I've been in Flash/swf world for so long, a lot has happened techwise recently and hard to keep up with, especially under Linux. (No Flash Player 9 yet as we all know...) Anyways, one Flash project could be very helpful for E Physics: FLADE, the Flash Dynamics Engine completely utilizing the Verlet integration. Let me know if I can help in any way to E Physics? :) Ogla Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga
dan sinclair wrote: Hello, Ok, haven't got a lot of responses (not that I gave it a huge amount of time, I'm inpatent) but, a follow on email to what we want out of the site. How do we get it. Lets us assume, for now, XSM is our CMS of choice. It will handle the static pages for all 'normal pages'. It will handle the news page (which, will hopefully be able to be displayed on both the home page for 2-3 articles and in the news page, Handy?). sure thing. Any list based page can be summarised using simple markup which can be inserted into something like the front page using the template system. The FAQ will be XSM. If we want to hook up for the user to download the faq to their system we can grab the .xml file XSM generates and post process if needed (Handy, can we hook post processing scripts in so after a page is written out, fire script?) and stick this into specific spots in the webserver. post processing is not currently available as a hook, but you can look at mtime values on files. perhaps RSS might be useful here? The main docs pages will be in XSM. The API docs will be generated from CVS, with links from XSM. The other docs that are in CVS will also be autogen'd on commit with links from XSM. That make sense as a starting point? yup :) So, what does that leave us with to sort out. 1- User forums. The easiest is to grab something previously created and use that. There are two issues. a) do we want to migrate data from edevelop, if so, how. b) user authentication. We want this to have the same authentication as XSM. So, we'll either need to modify this in the forum software, or do some fancy footwork. (XSM writes its user db and we parse that into the forum db, or into LDAP or something?) XSM does want to use LDAP, perhaps this would be the push it needs :) 2- Wiki. Do we want a user wiki? Something for users to put their info on, put up a page for their efl apps, or their theme they're working on. If we want this, again, how do we integrate the user database with XSM. Probably a similar issue as 1. Which Wiki software do we use? Mediawiki? 3- Bug database. Basically same as above. How to integrate users, which bug software to use. We currently use Mantis. Do we stick with that? (Losing the current bug data is unacceptable so if we go to something else we _have_ to migrate.) I personally like mantis, though I have grown to love Trac ;) 4- Release directory list. It sounds like we can hook php into XSM. This page will then just be controlled by XSM. (Assuming I'm correct on the XSM php front.) Yeah, sure thing - if you want the file list generated on the file system. There is a files doctype in XSM which allows you to upload files for download (if you see what I mean) and you can categorise the page. So both options are viable. I just thought of another feature we may want on the site. Autobuild information. Every 10 min or something rebuild everything, put up page with build errors, build warnings, etc. Possibly just a php script in XSM or tinderbox? XSM could run scripts to present this, but currently it has no scheduler, so it could not (yet) be used to fire off the rebuild event. Now. I _know_ everyone has their favorite bug database, favorite wiki software. Favorite hand to use while touching themselves. Thats fine. I want to here what you like. I only want to hear it _once_. I _don't_ want to hear you bitch about what someone else likes. Right now, we need ideas on what to use and how we can hook the pieces together. We don't want a giant mis-mash site. We also don't want to write all this shit ourselves. How can we get this stuff to fit together in terms of UI and in terms of user database and administration? (And just as a disclaimer. I've been avoiding XSM like the plague due to some early issues. I still think that we should use XSM as a _starting_ point. Once we've tried it on the new site with the other components then we can decided if it holds wind. To which, I've started poking XSM again.) And you have come up with some constructive comments which will be put in ASAP. Of course, registering these issues on http://dev.rectang.com/projects/xsm (click new issue) will get a more reliable response ;) dan Andy - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga
Andrew Williams wrote: dan sinclair wrote: Hello, Ok, haven't got a lot of responses (not that I gave it a huge amount of time, I'm inpatent) but, a follow on email to what we want out of the site. How do we get it. Lets us assume, for now, XSM is our CMS of choice. It will handle the static pages for all 'normal pages'. It will handle the news page (which, will hopefully be able to be displayed on both the home page for 2-3 articles and in the news page, Handy?). sure thing. Any list based page can be summarised using simple markup which can be inserted into something like the front page using the template system. The FAQ will be XSM. If we want to hook up for the user to download the faq to their system we can grab the .xml file XSM generates and post process if needed (Handy, can we hook post processing scripts in so after a page is written out, fire script?) and stick this into specific spots in the webserver. post processing is not currently available as a hook, but you can look at mtime values on files. perhaps RSS might be useful here? The main docs pages will be in XSM. The API docs will be generated from CVS, with links from XSM. The other docs that are in CVS will also be autogen'd on commit with links from XSM. That make sense as a starting point? Just thought of two more possible things for the site. 1- cvsweb. I know we have this running on Kevin's site now. So we can either bring it in house, or just make cvsweb.enlightenment.org point to his site. Kevin, opinions? 2- mailing list archives. Do we want the hassle of hosting these? sf seems to be doing an OK job of it (not that I look much). dan - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E Physics Engine
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:13:48AM -0700, Ogla Sungutay wrote: Hi rephorm, I saw your E Physics work and both as an E zealot AND a physicist it's difficult not to poke my nose into this initiative. I've been in Flash/swf world for so long, a lot has happened techwise recently and hard to keep up with, especially under Linux. (No Flash Player 9 yet as we all know...) Anyways, one Flash project could be very helpful for E Physics: FLADE, the Flash Dynamics Engine completely utilizing the Verlet integration. Ooh. Really nice stuff. :) I'll have to look at into it for some ideas. Let me know if I can help in any way to E Physics? :) Right now I just have particles, which optionally can have a rectangular size. Collisions currently assume no friction between the colliding rect sides, so the resultant transfer of momentum is normal to the collision surface. However, all of that code needs some optimizing and reworking. (I didn't properly determine which sides are colliding based on the particles motion, instead i used shape of their overlap, which for small speeds is correct, but for fast grazing collisions can be wrong) Also fast moving particles can fly right past others as i only check _at_ the timeslice (and not, e.g. a sweep of the particles flight). Also, I haven't added any constant (e.g. earth gravity) forces, but it should be trivial. For the snow demo, as a test, I used a massive particle really far away. This would be much faster as a constant downward force evenly applied to all particles :) Other areas for improvement: * need a set of vector manipulation functions - e_phys_vector_length(v) - e_phys_vector_subtract(v1, v2) - e_phys_vector_delta(v1, v2) * other particle types - circular - split rect out from point? * polygonal surfaces * optimization (esp. collisions) * more demos! :) Let me know if you have any other ideas. rephorm. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed
On 12/09/06, David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that has always kept me away from online forums is thegeneral lack of any email interface.If I can treat the forums justlike a mailing list, then I will contribute to them just like Icontribute to the mailing lists.This is an area I would definitely put some personal effort into getting right. hi all =) emooo onefang. i'm following the discussion with interest but i can't speak since i lack knowloedge and i'm just a translator. anyway i'm popping in to reply/tell to onefang that there's a forum board that integrates mailing lists as well. all automagically. that is FUDForum. http://fudforum.org cat fudforum-feature | grep mailing-lists: NNTP Mailing List integration, allowing FUDforum to be used to archive newsgroups mailing lists, as well as allow forum members to post messages to newsgroups and mailing lists via the forum. i don't know nothing about this forum board sorry and i'm not telling to use it, i just remembered that it has this feature. my humble two cents. -- Callea Gaetano Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] (e16) update of ja.po for e16
Yasufumi Haga wrote: Hi all This is an update of ja.po for E16. Committed, thanks :) /Kim - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/ecore kwo
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Enlightenment CVS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
hmm - i would have done it per root window - not screen (reverse map the roots
back to screen #)
Enlightenment CVS committal
Author : kwo
Project : e17
Module : libs/ecore
Dir : e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_x
Modified Files:
Ecore_X.h ecore_x_netwm.c
Log Message:
Requested by tilman.
===
RCS file: /cvs/e/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_x/Ecore_X.h,v
retrieving revision 1.172
retrieving revision 1.173
diff -u -3 -r1.172 -r1.173
--- Ecore_X.h 29 Aug 2006 22:37:07 - 1.172
+++ Ecore_X.h 13 Sep 2006 17:45:12 - 1.173
@@ -1515,6 +1515,8 @@
EAPI void ecore_x_damage_del(Ecore_X_Damage damage);
EAPI void ecore_x_damage_subtract(Ecore_X_Damage damage,
Ecore_X_Region repair, Ecore_X_Region parts);
+EAPI int ecore_x_screen_is_composited(int screen);
+
#ifdef __cplusplus
}
#endif
===
RCS file: /cvs/e/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_x/ecore_x_netwm.c,v
retrieving revision 1.54
retrieving revision 1.55
diff -u -3 -r1.54 -r1.55
--- ecore_x_netwm.c 7 Jun 2006 23:30:13 - 1.54
+++ ecore_x_netwm.c 13 Sep 2006 17:45:12 - 1.55
@@ -1638,3 +1638,22 @@
if (info-wmclass) free(info-wmclass);
free(info);
}
+
+/*
+ * Is screen composited?
+ */
+EAPI int
+ecore_x_screen_is_composited(int screen)
+{
+ Ecore_X_Window win;
+ Ecore_X_Atomatom;
+ charbuf[32];
+
+ snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), _NET_WM_CM_S%d, screen);
+ atom = XInternAtom(_ecore_x_disp, buf, True);
+ if (atom == None) return 0;
+
+ win = XGetSelectionOwner(_ecore_x_disp, atom);
+
+ return win != None;
+}
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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/ecore kwo
Carsten Haitzler [2006-09-14 07:37]: On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Enlightenment CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: hmm - i would have done it per root window - not screen (reverse map the roots back to screen #) I felt _screen was the obvious choice since there's one selection atom per screen... Thanks Kim for putting it in :) Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? pgpzfiWVmlANw.pgp Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga
I want to here what you like. I only want to hear it _once_. I _don't_ want to hear you bitch about what someone else likes. I want a pony. I want a bicycle. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga
dan sinclair wrote: Andrew Williams wrote: dan sinclair wrote: Hello, Ok, haven't got a lot of responses (not that I gave it a huge amount of time, I'm inpatent) but, a follow on email to what we want out of the site. How do we get it. Lets us assume, for now, XSM is our CMS of choice. It will handle the static pages for all 'normal pages'. It will handle the news page (which, will hopefully be able to be displayed on both the home page for 2-3 articles and in the news page, Handy?). sure thing. Any list based page can be summarised using simple markup which can be inserted into something like the front page using the template system. The FAQ will be XSM. If we want to hook up for the user to download the faq to their system we can grab the .xml file XSM generates and post process if needed (Handy, can we hook post processing scripts in so after a page is written out, fire script?) and stick this into specific spots in the webserver. post processing is not currently available as a hook, but you can look at mtime values on files. perhaps RSS might be useful here? The main docs pages will be in XSM. The API docs will be generated from CVS, with links from XSM. The other docs that are in CVS will also be autogen'd on commit with links from XSM. That make sense as a starting point? Just thought of two more possible things for the site. I think you are going way overboard. :P 1- cvsweb. I know we have this running on Kevin's site now. So we can either bring it in house, or just make cvsweb.enlightenment.org point to his site. Kevin, opinions? No problem either way. I run it because I use it a lot, and will make it public for the forseeable future. I've got no problem adding a DNS link to it, as Michael said, I have the DNS setup info around here, if you want me to do that. The tree is based on the same cvs tree that I presently offer the anon mirror on, so unless someone asks me to stop offering those, I will leave them up. :) 2- mailing list archives. Do we want the hassle of hosting these? sf seems to be doing an OK job of it (not that I look much). Well, maybe you should ask who is going to host the 'mailing lists' first. When sf has delivery or connection problems, the mailing lists stop or disappear for however long the outage takes. That's more important than the archives. Oh, and I don't mention it all that often, but I already archive a few of the lists: http://e.kevb.net/lurker/splash/index.en.html Again, because I use them, and I wanted a decent search interface... S, there're some more options to consider. -- Kevin - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga
On 13-Sep-06, at 8:04 PM, Kevin Brosius wrote: dan sinclair wrote: Just thought of two more possible things for the site. I think you are going way overboard. :P Maybe. We possibly don't want half the things that I've listed. I'm just trying to work out what we do want. We have a bunch of these components sitting on different sites. Do we want to consolidate all of these, and if so, which pieces. Maybe we don't want to bother with the wiki, or the autogen'd docs. I've got no idea, heh. 1- cvsweb. I know we have this running on Kevin's site now. So we can either bring it in house, or just make cvsweb.enlightenment.org point to his site. Kevin, opinions? No problem either way. I run it because I use it a lot, and will make it public for the forseeable future. I've got no problem adding a DNS link to it, as Michael said, I have the DNS setup info around here, if you want me to do that. The tree is based on the same cvs tree that I presently offer the anon mirror on, so unless someone asks me to stop offering those, I will leave them up. :) Then the easiest thing is to probably just make a url redirect to your site. Keeps things simpler to maintain. 2- mailing list archives. Do we want the hassle of hosting these? sf seems to be doing an OK job of it (not that I look much). Well, maybe you should ask who is going to host the 'mailing lists' first. When sf has delivery or connection problems, the mailing lists stop or disappear for however long the outage takes. That's more important than the archives. True. I didn't actually think about moving the lists themselves. Just seems like it would be a terrible amount of work. Re-subscriptions, etc. Oh, and I don't mention it all that often, but I already archive a few of the lists: http://e.kevb.net/lurker/splash/index.en.html Again, because I use them, and I wanted a decent search interface... S, there're some more options to consider. That could also work. Just put a pointer to your archives if we want to go the simple route. dan - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga
dan sinclair wrote: On 13-Sep-06, at 8:04 PM, Kevin Brosius wrote: dan sinclair wrote: Just thought of two more possible things for the site. I think you are going way overboard. :P Maybe. We possibly don't want half the things that I've listed. I'm just trying to work out what we do want. We have a bunch of these components sitting on different sites. Do we want to consolidate all of these, and if so, which pieces. Maybe we don't want to bother with the wiki, or the autogen'd docs. I've got no idea, heh. 1- cvsweb. I know we have this running on Kevin's site now. So we can either bring it in house, or just make cvsweb.enlightenment.org point to his site. Kevin, opinions? No problem either way. I run it because I use it a lot, and will make it public for the forseeable future. I've got no problem adding a DNS link to it, as Michael said, I have the DNS setup info around here, if you want me to do that. The tree is based on the same cvs tree that I presently offer the anon mirror on, so unless someone asks me to stop offering those, I will leave them up. :) Then the easiest thing is to probably just make a url redirect to your site. Keeps things simpler to maintain. 2- mailing list archives. Do we want the hassle of hosting these? sf seems to be doing an OK job of it (not that I look much). Well, maybe you should ask who is going to host the 'mailing lists' first. When sf has delivery or connection problems, the mailing lists stop or disappear for however long the outage takes. That's more important than the archives. True. I didn't actually think about moving the lists themselves. Just seems like it would be a terrible amount of work. Re-subscriptions, etc. blink boggle Compared to the amount of work running all the other services on your list is? Haha. This one you consider to large? -- Kevin - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Continuing the website saga
On 13-Sep-06, at 9:38 PM, Kevin Brosius wrote: dan sinclair wrote: On 13-Sep-06, at 8:04 PM, Kevin Brosius wrote: dan sinclair wrote: Just thought of two more possible things for the site. I think you are going way overboard. :P Maybe. We possibly don't want half the things that I've listed. I'm just trying to work out what we do want. We have a bunch of these components sitting on different sites. Do we want to consolidate all of these, and if so, which pieces. Maybe we don't want to bother with the wiki, or the autogen'd docs. I've got no idea, heh. 1- cvsweb. I know we have this running on Kevin's site now. So we can either bring it in house, or just make cvsweb.enlightenment.org point to his site. Kevin, opinions? No problem either way. I run it because I use it a lot, and will make it public for the forseeable future. I've got no problem adding a DNS link to it, as Michael said, I have the DNS setup info around here, if you want me to do that. The tree is based on the same cvs tree that I presently offer the anon mirror on, so unless someone asks me to stop offering those, I will leave them up. :) Then the easiest thing is to probably just make a url redirect to your site. Keeps things simpler to maintain. 2- mailing list archives. Do we want the hassle of hosting these? sf seems to be doing an OK job of it (not that I look much). Well, maybe you should ask who is going to host the 'mailing lists' first. When sf has delivery or connection problems, the mailing lists stop or disappear for however long the outage takes. That's more important than the archives. True. I didn't actually think about moving the lists themselves. Just seems like it would be a terrible amount of work. Re-subscriptions, etc. blink boggle Compared to the amount of work running all the other services on your list is? Haha. This one you consider to large? We're already running most of the services on the list. We have a website, we have the release list on fdo.org, we have a bug tracker, we have a forum. We're just consolidating them. dan - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:55:46 +0200 Kim Woelders [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set has IMO some ICCCM non-compliance and other evilness. You can see the effects of this e.g. when toggling fullscreen state in entice (key f) in many WM's, including e17 and e16. 1) _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set starts with ecore_x_window_hide. This is a window withdrawal (ICCCM). When a client withdraws itself by unmapping the application window it should wait for the WM to reparent the window to root or change/remove the WM_STATE hint before proceeding to mess around with the window. This is not done and causes problems for many WM's. yeah - this is dubious. i changed the levels of parents - before it created an override-redirect container and the canvas was always a subwindow. i reduced windowing levels by 1 so its only 1 window and thus this all changed to the above :) 2) When entering fullscreen mode the window is changed to override-redirect type to override WM control of borders, sizes, stacking etc. This is in my opinion a very unusual and dubious use of the override-redirect attribute. I think that the whole fullscreen/unfullscreen thing should be left to the WM, i.e. send an ECORE_X_WINDOW_STATE_FULLSCREEN client message to the root window and let the WM do whatever it does when fullscreening. This will of course only work with EWMH compliant WM's, but do we care about non-EWMH compliant ones? If yes, I think _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set should detect this and fall back to the only other sane way to enter/leave fullscreen mode, i.e. use the standard mechanisms to resize/reposition the window and set/unset the borderless attribute (_MOTIF_WM_HINTS). which is what we do now :) well we use the netwm fullscreen mojo - no fallback though :) 3) _ecore_evas_x_fullscreen_set messes with focus. IMO clients should hardly ever do that (maybe except by requesting the WM) but again leave it to the WM. In this case I guess it was a hack required to get the override-redirect thing kind of working. yup - it was. If there are no objections I will commit attached patch. no objections :) /Kim -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
