Re: [E-devel] Release: EFL 1.27.0

2023-12-24 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em sáb., 23 de dez. de 2023 às 14:00, Carsten Haitzler
 escreveu:
> EFL 1.27.0 Release. Relevant info here:

How's the status of Eo?


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Re: [E-devel] [Terminology] Cooperative tiling between Terminology and hosted programs

2023-02-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em qui., 2 de fev. de 2023 às 18:45, Boris Faure  escreveu:

> There's no escape codes to handle the tiling, since those
> could also be used to DDOS terminology, but that's something could be
> thought about.
>

If we go this route, I don't think it should be done through escape codes.
That's why I suggested separate UNIX sockets.

One ptty per tile (as it's already done anyway). Just expose the same (and
not a different one) feature to the user.

However I'm glad you're not against the feature. Unfortunately I'm busy
right now so I can't hack into Terminology to iterate some PoCs.


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[E-devel] [Terminology] Cooperative tiling between Terminology and hosted programs

2023-01-29 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Hi folks,

in my mind, Terminology tries to push the boundaries of what's possible
with terminal emulators forward. For instance, it has support for embedding
videos and images through custom escape sequences. It obviously expects
programs will make use of the new Terminology features.

It just occurred to me that programas could cooperate with Terminology to
make their own custom tiling. For instance, Emacs has the eshell mode where
Emacs acts as its own terminal emulator taking care of interpreting ANSI
escape sequences and tiling the embedded terminal in its own window all by
itself.

What if Terminology exposed an env var such as
TERMINOLOGY_SOCK=$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/sock-1234.sock with a path for a UNIX
socket so the program (such as Emacs) could open it to cooperate with
Terminology? Emacs could open a new pty, spawn the embedded shell, and send
a fd to the master end of the new pty back to Terminology. The message
should include the position in the screen for the new embedded terminal.
Now Terminology would only read from the master end so it can draw the
contents of the embedded terminal appropriately in the new tile of the
terminal window. Emacs would still get all the input as usual and only send
input to the new terminal as it pleases (by writing in the master end of
the pty).

So, Terminology already decodes ANSI escape sequences and performs tiling
of terminal windows. The idea is to let applications reuse this
implementation to allow further embedding other interactive programs in
their own windows.

Thoughts?


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Re: [E-devel] Happy New year E crowd

2023-01-12 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em qui., 12 de jan. de 2023 às 16:50, Joonas Niilola 
escreveu:

> > Anyway - there is a new year update on what I have been doing and where
> it is
> > now, where it's going etc. and real code to back it up - not just hot
> air.
> >
>
> As always, thanks for your (and everyone else's) work on efl/e/apps!
> Quiet isn't always bad, but here's to an exciting, and hopefully
> not-cold year 2023!
>

I must add my own thanks as well. EFL has always come to me as one of the
most interesting open source projects to follow to this date. I really
appreciate the work the E team has done to make this project alive. Let's
hope for a shining future here.


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Re: [E-devel] FlatPak runtime

2020-03-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em seg., 2 de mar. de 2020 às 13:45, Boris Faure  escreveu:

> I wanted to look into it to be able to package Terminology.  Here is a
> file of what I did to package Terminology as a snap:
> https://github.com/billiob/terminology/blob/master/snap/snapcraft.yaml
>

It's not a good idea to package Terminology as FlatPak (even if you can do
that). But the list of dependencies you gathered on this file is going to
help me tons. Thank you for the list and for the hand.


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Re: [E-devel] FlatPak runtime

2020-03-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em seg., 2 de mar. de 2020 às 13:35, Carsten Haitzler 
escreveu:

> you're going to find an afl runtime flatpak is going to have a lot of
> system
> lib deps... you will have to solve systemd support too :)
>

Thanks for the answer.

now e will have some problems for you too. acpid needs to  be run by root on
> the host... you might find you have to ship lots of xlibs and wayland libs
> in
> the efl runtime...
>

It's not a good idea to package any shell (be it a terminal shell like ZSH
or a graphical shell like E) to run on a sandbox. It doesn't make sense as
the shell will no longer let you explore your system but a sandboxed system
(so it doesn't perform a shell's job). SELinux or alike policies work
better on such programs.

I only intend to create the runtime for apps based on EFL. But it's a good
idea to check what other libraries besides EFL E depends on. Maybe I should
put them as part of runtime if it looks like lots of apps will need them or
there is some reason for them to be updated behind the app's back (like
openssl and any crypto lib).


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Re: [E-devel] FlatPak runtime

2020-03-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em seg., 2 de mar. de 2020 às 07:15, Carsten Haitzler 
escreveu:

> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:14:33 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
>  said:
>
> > What are E devs' thoughts on an E's runtime for FlatPak?
>
> are you volunteering?
>

Yes, but I need to know what are other essential libs besides EFL and its
dependencies to make an “EFL SDK” and I'd like to know what you guys think
on the topic.


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[E-devel] FlatPak runtime

2020-03-01 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
What are E devs' thoughts on an E's runtime for FlatPak?

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Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-08-11 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Just curious. I'm not a developer.

But what will happen to Gerrit? I remember one comment of Rasterman years
ago that he fell in love with Gerrit. What will the migration mean to
Gerrit?

2018-08-10 15:09 GMT-03:00 Mike Blumenkrantz :

> Hello,
>
> For some time now, everyone in the community has been expressing
> significant dissatisfaction with the current project management software,
> Phabricator. A number of individuals have proposed switching to Gitlab for
> various reasons.
>
> Some will recall that recently all of the FDO infrastructure migrated from
> Phabricator to Gitlab thanks in large part to an incredible, hand-crafted
> migration script authored by notable open source figure Daniel Stone. While
> this script was not exactly what could be used to migrate our own
> infrastructure, it gave me an idea.
>
> Thanks to a low-pay intern who just graduated and whose name I don't
> recall, work began to modify the original FDO migration script and update
> it to handle various features exclusive to our usage of Phabricator. Thanks
> to generous hosting provided by the basement of the intern's parents, I was
> able to review the work as it progressed to see if it would be worth
> showing to the community.
>
> Weeks have passed, and now, thanks to many sleepless nights and long
> weekends that this devoted intern spent doing devops work, I was able to
> provide justification for more robust hosting and acquire a cloud service
> to host an official proof-of-concept for a Gitlab migration:
>
> https://gitlab-prototype.s-opensource.org/
>
> Some notes:
> * This is read-only for now
> * User creation is disabled, don't bother trying
> * Issues with their comments have been imported
> * Patch submissions have been imported (the intern screwed up some of the
> early imports so there are a few patches without the diff inlined)
>   - Comments on patch submissions cannot be imported because Phabricator
> has no API for retrieving comments on patch review
> * Wiki pages are not imported since some decision-making is required
>
> As is easily noticeable, not all projects have been imported by my intern.
> Importing the repo takes some time on its own, and then running the
> migration script takes a variable amount of time on top of that depending
> on the size of the project (EFL was estimated to take 10+ hours to fully
> import).
>
> Wiki pages have not been imported. On Gitlab, a wiki is project-specific
> and so it is impossible to do a 1:1 copy unless we decided to stick
> everything onto a specific project. We would have to decide how we want to
> do this.
>
> If we decided to switch to Gitlab, there would be a number of questions
> that need to be answered:
> Q: How do we migrate?
> A: Gitlab cannot accurately mirror all of Phabricator, it can only do a
> one-time migration of projects. This means we would at some point lock phab
> and then begin migrating, likely over a weekend for the major projects with
> the remainders being added later.
>
> Q: What happens to phab?
> A: We would likely want to keep phab in read-only mode for a while after
> the migration since all the migrated tickets/patches will provide links to
> it. We can later evaluate if we need to keep it running.
>
> Q: Where would this be hosted?
> A: The provided link here is a cloud service which will be funded for the
> foreseeable future. At present I am very strongly opposed to hosting this
> anywhere on the existing EFL infrastructure since it has been impossible
> for anyone to get access to any part of the server or to have tasks
> reliably handled in anything but a random and notification-less manner. A
> community project cannot have infrastructure which is unable to be
> accessed, managed, or maintained by the community which is using it.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
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Re: [E-devel] Terminology bug/feature (not supported escape sequence?)

2018-04-12 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2018-04-12 3:38 GMT-03:00 Boris Faure <bo...@fau.re>:

> Could you please open a task on https://phab.enlightenment.org/ ?
>

https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6882


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Re: [E-devel] Terminology bug/feature (not supported escape sequence?)

2018-04-11 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Actually, I found more bugs related to mouse events.

Dragable property is completely broken under Terminology.

2018-04-11 19:32 GMT-03:00 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira <
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> Hi,
>
> I was testing a npm package used to build curses-like applications and the
> first example had a `on_mouse_over` feature which runs fine on
> gnome-terminal, but fails on Terminology.
>
> The npm package is: https://github.com/chjj/blessed
>
> Here is the sample program you can use to test: https://bin.disroot.org/?
> 1d5d3fa1fa16c16c#3cscD1/2p9R92DQ4sv37hb82cM/ibo77KBTzRgjQzM8=
>
> Install the blessed lib dependency with the command `npm install blessed`
> before running the previous program.
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[E-devel] Terminology bug/feature (not supported escape sequence?)

2018-04-11 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Hi,

I was testing a npm package used to build curses-like applications and the
first example had a `on_mouse_over` feature which runs fine on
gnome-terminal, but fails on Terminology.

The npm package is: https://github.com/chjj/blessed

Here is the sample program you can use to test:
https://bin.disroot.org/?1d5d3fa1fa16c16c#3cscD1/2p9R92DQ4sv37hb82cM/ibo77KBTzRgjQzM8=

Install the blessed lib dependency with the command `npm install blessed`
before running the previous program.

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Re: [E-devel] A step to improving communication - Meetings

2018-03-09 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2018-03-09 6:53 GMT-03:00 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de>:

> Slack is now in the process of killing there irc bridge so this won't
> work for much longer, goodbye slack. (The bots are terrible you have no
> idea who's actually active in the other chat room).
>

It's possible to join Freenode through the matrix network. matrix.org hosts
a bridge to Freenode.

Once you join the matrix network, you can setup more bridges to Slack,
Discord, gitter, Telegram and others. I used this method to glue the
networks (Telegram, Discord and IRC) of a programming group of mine. It was
pretty easy and I didn't need to setup any server (although a gitter bridge
will require me to do so).

So you guys can have Slack, but IRC users can continue to use IRC through
Freenode as always.


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Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

2018-03-07 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2018-03-04 4:37 GMT-03:00 Davide Andreoli <d...@gurumeditation.it>:

> 2018-03-02 4:42 GMT+01:00 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira <
> vini.ipsma...@gmail.com>:
> > I miss the penguins module a lot.
> >
>
> Why you miss it? the penguins module is perfectly working with current E
> and
> (I hope) with latest stable releases. Please report any issue you will
> found to me.
>

Thank you, sir.

It was not packaged by default on ArchLinux. I assumed it has just vanished
on Enlightenment API changes just like the grudge theme.

The penguins module is working and it rocks.


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Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

2018-03-03 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2018-03-01 21:17 GMT-03:00 William L. Thomson Jr. <
wlt...@obsidian-studios.com>:

> I also like Debians approach of an annually elected leader.
> https://www.debian.org/devel/leader
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_project_leaders
>

I like “raster is top” way to go.

Also:

2018-03-01 16:28 GMT-03:00 Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com>:

> Same menus, same settings, same gadgets, same
> shelves, same themes, same look, same interface, etc..., etc...
>

I miss the penguins module a lot.

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Re: [E-devel] Terminology support added on mdcat

2018-02-03 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Thanks for the chat. This helped a lot.

2018-02-01 6:14 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 22:20:58 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
> <vini.ipsma...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > 2018-01-31 19:37 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:
> >
> > > tycat doesn't work because it needs to know size before emitting
> escapes
> > > thus
> > > has to load the file and tycat wont bother to download :) but yes
> - the
> > > basic media object can just download to a tmp file itself
> > >
> >
> > In the code I've written, I just set it to occupy half of the terminal
> > height and I use ic escape sequence to not lose the aspect ratio.
>
> h. that's a bit of cheating... but sure. :)
>
> > I think the best solution would be to turn the tycat into a pager, but I
> > don't know what is the author opinion on this.
>
> well i wrote it... :) really the tyls, tycat etc. tools are samples of how
> to
> make the escapes work for something real. they are not serious cmdline tool
> efforts. i always thought that'd ultimately be done by existing cmdline
> tools
> like your mdcat :)
>
> > The second best solution I see is to keep doing what I do.
> >
> >
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Re: [E-devel] Terminology support added on mdcat

2018-01-31 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2018-01-31 19:37 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:

> tycat doesn't work because it needs to know size before emitting escapes
> thus
> has to load the file and tycat wont bother to download :) but yes - the
> basic media object can just download to a tmp file itself
>

In the code I've written, I just set it to occupy half of the terminal
height and I use ic escape sequence to not lose the aspect ratio.

I think the best solution would be to turn the tycat into a pager, but I
don't know what is the author opinion on this.

The second best solution I see is to keep doing what I do.


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Re: [E-devel] Terminology support added on mdcat

2018-01-31 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
I've tried to pipe the output to `less`, but it didn't work. I'll test it
against tmux later.

2018-01-31 15:21 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:12:27 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
> <vini.ipsma...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > Just to let you guys know that support to Terminology extended escape
> > sequences has been added to mdcat: https://github.com/lunaryorn/mdcat
>
> that's awesome man!
>
> is there anything we can help you with? i just quickly scrolled down
> https://github.com/lunaryorn/mdcat/pull/16 ...
>
> i see 2 issues. 1 is remote references. they woth for popups but not inline
> (tycat won't work, but typop will).


They worked on my tests. Maybe new code landed and you missed, but the
media is discarded as soon as you scroll down and re-downloaded again when
you scroll up.

Caching the media so I don't have to download it every time I scroll down
or up again would be great.

even if we did download them... we'd have
> to STORE them somewhere... because we're sure not going to keep them in
> RAM. at
> least stored they don't take precious ram all the time. so terminology will
> also use tmp files too with references to remote url's anyway. if you do
> it or
> terminology does... it won't make much of a difference. :)


There's one important difference.

If Terminology creates the files and cache them, then Terminology will keep
an open fd to these files. If I clear my `/tmp` folder, Terminology will
still work properly. mdcat can't do that as the application closes as soon
as the file is printed.

the other is
> fr/fs/fx ... that literally is for file sending. it's zmodem for
> terminology.
> tysend is a quick handy tool to run to do this. sample code is really just
> that
> - sample code, but it will begin a file send transaction and send file
> blocks.
> the terminology side will see the request and pop up a file selector with
> the
> ability to abort, and then put up a progress bar. it's not what you want i
> think.
>

Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: [E-devel] Terminology support added on mdcat

2018-01-31 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2018-01-31 15:13 GMT-03:00 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@gmail.com>:

> hey, now you must add the jump marks so he can add those as well ;-)
>

Honestly, I don't think they are very useful, so I wouldn't bother with
them. But if support for these escape sequences is added, then I can code
the feature.

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Re: [E-devel] Terminology support added on mdcat

2018-01-31 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
PS.: details about the support are commented in this PR:
https://github.com/lunaryorn/mdcat/pull/16

2018-01-31 14:12 GMT-03:00 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira <
vini.ipsma...@gmail.com>:

> Just to let you guys know that support to Terminology extended escape
> sequences has been added to mdcat: https://github.com/lunaryorn/mdcat
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[E-devel] Terminology support added on mdcat

2018-01-31 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Just to let you guys know that support to Terminology extended escape
sequences has been added to mdcat: https://github.com/lunaryorn/mdcat

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Re: [E-devel] Rust bindings

2017-12-06 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2017-12-06 7:12 GMT-03:00 Vincent Torri <vincent.to...@gmail.com>:

> shouldn't binding be automatically generated ?


Does this have something to do with Eo? Is it ready?

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Re: [E-devel] Blend2D - a gfx framework with dynamic pipelines support

2017-12-06 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2017-12-06 4:56 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:

> [...]


That was very informative. Thank you.

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Re: [E-devel] Rust bindings

2017-12-05 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2017-12-05 23:54 GMT-03:00 Cedric Bail <ced...@ddlm.me>:

> Care to share the link to that repo you found ?
>

https://github.com/arlowhite/rust-efl

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[E-devel] Rust bindings

2017-12-05 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
What's the current state of EFL bindings for Rust? I just found a Github
repo with scarce info.

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Re: [E-devel] Blend2D - a gfx framework with dynamic pipelines support

2017-12-05 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2017-12-03 10:19 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:

> also i dislike the idea of a jit. i would prefer something like
> "pre-compile
> all permutations into special case functions then runtime call the
> right/matching one".
>

I'm not familiar implementing gfx engines, but with my (small) background
on compilers and the giant notes page[1], I assume there are optimizations
that can't just be implemented otherwise.

The API is like:

ctx.draw_something1();
ctx.draw_something2();
ctx.draw_something3();
ctx.end(); //< here the pipeline is compiled

In this API, the gfx engine can take info on cross-function information. If
draw_something3 completely hides draw_something2, one call can be
completely removed. It's actually boring, because you have to recompile the
whole pipeline every value changed, but the plans to support shaders will
change the situation[2][3].

There are drawbacks too. Evas already do interesting things and I just
don't know if this blend2d would actually be helpful. Evas is pretty damn
fast. And blend2d is whole CPU side, no GPU (but I still think it's
interesting because Bézier curves).

Oh, and thanks for replying to my email. It was just a different point of
view, just as I wanted to have.

[1] https://blend2d.com/notes.html
[2] https://blend2d.com/roadmap.html
[3] https://gist.github.com/vinipsmaker/08349a74566df4c4a9bf82624c13a33b

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[E-devel] Blend2D - a gfx framework with dynamic pipelines support

2017-12-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Hi all,

I'd like to ask what is your opinion on this library[1].

It's a library where you call all the draw operations that comprise the
drawing pipeline, and, when you call `context_end`, the pipeline is
compiled (yep, JIT). Somehow exciting because it allows very interesting
optimizations.

But it's also boring, because you have to recompile the whole pipeline
every time some value changes (i.e. probably every frame if you're writing
a game).

But there is also plans to support a shader language (with a working
experimental code for a useless math functions language). With this support
added, you could compile the rendering pipeline only once and evaluate it
for every frame.

The thing I like is support for Bézier curves. It's like OpenGL done for 2D
rendering. The API seems a lot like cairo, so it's mostly transparent
(except for the shaders).

Maybe EFL could add a backend forked from SDL2 using this library to
generate the screen bits. Or maybe there is not enough info flowing the
higher layers to the lower layers to make this idea actually useful.

Maybe some of these ideas could be stolen by the EFL project.

I'd like to hear opinion from you guys about this project. You guys are
experienced with 2d gfx code and I'd love to hear anything you guys have to
say about this project.

[1] https://blend2d.com/

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Re: [E-devel] E22 Reprioritizing

2016-06-03 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2016-06-03 13:19 GMT-03:00 Mike Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com
>:

> Thanks for all your understanding and support,


Take care man.
Get well.


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Re: [E-devel] (: From now on all EFL code will be happy... or else!

2016-04-05 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2016-04-05 19:50 GMT-03:00 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de>:

> I don't like the idea of having opening brackets without close brackets
> either.
>

This will make MANY IDEs mismatch the parens.


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Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 03/55: autotools: enable make check per individual modules.

2015-07-13 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2015-05-08 1:36 GMT-03:00 Srivardhan sri.heb...@samsung.com:

 Until there is a way to run individual test suites in place, people who
 want
 to run just a particular test suite or a test case can make use of
 Environmental variable CK_RUN_SUITE and CK_RUN_CASE. When this is set,
 only
 that suite/test case is run.

 http://check.sourceforge.net/doc/check_html/check_4.html#Selective-Running-o
 f-Tests

 I am using this for some time and found it very useful.


Hi, can you give an example on how to properly make use of these variables?

I've been trying to use:

CK_RUN_SUITE=eina_suite make check
CK_RUN_CASE=eina_suite make check

but nothing works. I've also tried:

CK_RUN_SUITE='tests/eina/eina_suite' make check
CK_RUN_CASE='tests/eina/eina_suite' make check


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Re: [E-devel] misleading ecore_timer_dump documentation

2015-05-14 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2015-04-01 5:25 GMT-03:00 Stefan Schmidt ste...@datenfreihafen.org:

 Nicely spotted. You are right. I moved the documentation to the right
 place in code now.


Thanks Stefan.

I also created a patch to add documentation for ecore_timer_dump (see
attached file). Can you also apply this patch?


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From: =?UTF-8?q?Vin=C3=ADcius=20dos=20Santos=20Oliveira?=
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Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:58:18 -0300
Subject: [PATCH] ecore: add documentation for ecore_timer_dump

---
 src/lib/ecore/Ecore_Common.h | 9 +
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)

diff --git a/src/lib/ecore/Ecore_Common.h b/src/lib/ecore/Ecore_Common.h
index c6cc1e7..07bd187 100644
--- a/src/lib/ecore/Ecore_Common.h
+++ b/src/lib/ecore/Ecore_Common.h
@@ -3065,6 +3065,15 @@ EAPI double ecore_timer_precision_get(void);
  */
 EAPI void ecore_timer_precision_set(double precision);
 
+/**
+ * This function returns a human readable text-based log for Ecore_Timer events.
+ *
+ * @return a heap allocated string or NULL. It MUST be freed manually by the
+ * caller using `free`.
+ *
+ * It only contains an useful implementation if EFL is built in debug build
+ * profile, but it's safe to call it for any build profile.
+ */
 EAPI char *ecore_timer_dump(void);
 
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[E-devel] misleading ecore_timer_dump documentation

2015-03-31 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
ecore_timer_dump documentation looks misleading:
http://docs.enlightenment.org/stable/efl/group__Ecore__Timer__Group.html#ga9ba51cdf9b709138dec62586721387dd

It receives nothing, but input parameters are documented and doesn't look
to make sense.

Header file ecore-1/Ecore_Common.h also shows the function as taking no
arguments.

And looks like the documentation is intended for ecore_timer_add, which is
undocumented.

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[EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: [eina-cxx] fix: wrong parameter type preventing the use of copy ctor

2015-01-04 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
felipealmeida pushed a commit to branch master.

http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=5a2ac0c42f8ada84393b68c9695c1a6e13793547

commit 5a2ac0c42f8ada84393b68c9695c1a6e13793547
Author: Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@expertisesolutions.com.br
Date:   Fri Jan 2 17:11:07 2015 -0300

[eina-cxx] fix: wrong parameter type preventing the use of copy ctor

Eina_Stringshare * type is interchangeable with const char *.
The stealing constructor from efl::eina::stringshare was incorrectly
using char * instead const char *, preventing it from being used.
---
 src/bindings/eina_cxx/eina_stringshare.hh | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/bindings/eina_cxx/eina_stringshare.hh 
b/src/bindings/eina_cxx/eina_stringshare.hh
index 9c93b78..e7e2f67 100644
--- a/src/bindings/eina_cxx/eina_stringshare.hh
+++ b/src/bindings/eina_cxx/eina_stringshare.hh
@@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ struct stringshare
* shared this constructor simple increment its reference counter and
* wraps the shared pointer.
*
-   * @see stringshare(char* str, steal_stringshare_ref_t)
+   * @see stringshare(const char* str, steal_stringshare_ref_t)
*/
   stringshare(const char* str)
 : _string( ::eina_stringshare_add(str) )
@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@ struct stringshare
*
* @see stringshare(const char* str)
*/
-  stringshare(char* str, steal_stringshare_ref_t)
+  stringshare(const char* str, steal_stringshare_ref_t)
 : _string( str )
   {
   }

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Re: [E-devel] RFC - Dropping Xembed support from E20

2014-11-05 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2014-11-05 10:27 GMT-03:00 Stefan Schmidt ste...@datenfreihafen.org:

 Xchat


Xchat is broken[1]. Try Hexchat.

[1] http://sourceforge.net/p/xchat/bugs/1416/


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Re: [E-devel] Eo API parameter nullability

2014-11-05 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2014-11-05 23:40 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:

 oh shit - yes. you're right. the other way around. maybe not @null but
 @skipnull ? ie it means IF this parameter is NULL, it's skipped (ignored).
 this
 then does nicely imply that the param can be made optional in langs that
 support it (as without the param being a valid thing - eg not NULL, it is
 ignored/skipped and thus can be optional).


This is the opposite of intuitive and it required you a full paragraph to
describe it.


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Re: [E-devel] Killing off Eina_Bool

2014-08-28 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2014-08-28 12:12 GMT-03:00 Tom Hacohen tom.haco...@samsung.com:

 What do you think?


I'm not an E developer, but I think if you guys finally are allowing modern
idioms on your code base, you should allow (allow != converting old code)
the use of stdint.h.


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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Rage 0.1.0 Release

2014-08-25 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2014-08-25 9:06 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:

 subtitles right now have no controls at all beyond you'll get them if
 there is
 a matching .srt file or you add -sub file.srt on the cmdline. very basic
 atm.


Make sure to support embedded subtitles and proper subtitle selection in
the future. And proper Unicode/alternative-encoding support (but I guess
this one goes to GStreamer, so you might be good).


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Re: [E-devel] Blog about EO

2014-08-16 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2014-08-16 2:36 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:


 https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/1//post/yet_another_c_object_model_but_better/


I want to comment over there, but it requires facebook login. Is this
authentication method the only supported on the Enlightenment blog?


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Re: [E-devel] Blog about EO

2014-08-16 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2014-08-16 23:37 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:

 yup. thats what phab does. phabricator is what we use for our dev site and
 it's
 written by a bunch of ex facebook guys. thus fb is what it supports.


I don't have a fb account, so I'm replying here.

First, good to see you posting again.

Secondly, it looks very promising. Good to see the EFL community is still
improving its technologies.

Now, just a few questions:

   - A few languages can guarantee that dangling references cannot be
   created or have its own techniques to detect them. Is the object-checking
   (dis)activatable? I mean, is there an alternative way to call the Eo
   functions without the unnecessary checking cost?
   - Is it thread-safe? I know it's a silly question, but a word confirming
   it would be good.



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Re: [E-devel] Blog about EO

2014-08-16 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2014-08-17 1:24 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:

 compile-time for efl itself. you have to build it without checking. i'd
 advise
 against it because efll uses its own objects internally and if efl has a
 mistake in it you just nuked efl's own internal safety. i highly suggest
 not
 doing this.

 it may be that we remove the ability to compile without this check in the
 end
 as i an just see it now. gentoo ricers are going to add a use flag to turn
 this
 off and then we will get tonnes of stability complaints because the rest
 of us
 normal people run without turning the safety off.

 it's worth keeping this safety on. it doesn't cost much and is totally
 worth
 it.


I'd like to see this checking disabled per call only, not globally. Then
only bindings for safe languages would use it.

I'll leave the safety checks turned on. They're worth. Also, EFL is for GUI
only and heavy computing sensitive data can be implemented without negative
impact by just not touching EFL (temporally).

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Re: [E-devel] Working on Enlightenment IDE

2014-04-15 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Ter, 2014-04-15 às 20:32 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu:

 i'd say that that is a bit negative.


Sorry if looked negative.

I'm myself looking forward for this EFL IDE project.

I've sent the link, because, besides being a funny/critic post, has a
collection of good reminder. Some examples of reminders present in the
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Re: [E-devel] Working on Enlightenment IDE

2014-04-15 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qua, 2014-04-16 às 08:40 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu:

 all of us are used to color syntax hilighting... i don't see that we'd
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 without it. remember most of us use vim/emacs so we re going to expect
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not wanting to extend the discussion too much... but these items were
examples. the original list was bigger and i don't see a reason to
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Re: [E-devel] Working on Enlightenment IDE

2014-04-04 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
 I'd be delighted to get feedback


You might want to read this open letter about IDEs. It tries to be
funny, but has a nice list of things to not forget:
https://gist.github.com/munificent/9749671

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Re: [E-devel] Why is Eina licensed under LGPL instead of BSD?

2014-01-24 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Sáb, 2014-01-25 às 00:54 +, jose_...@juno.com escreveu:

 [...] But don't worry, I intend to give code back for everyone to use!
 and even donate money back to you once I'm financially successful!!
 Lots of companies will do this, and hence, E-BSD will flourish!
 
 Get it?!


Yes, that's accurate.

I believe this is what Sony did to the FreeBSD developers after the
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-11-03 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Dom, 2013-11-03 às 22:24 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu:

 that today was on arch (relatively up to date). i've had similar
 issues before
 on older ubuntu installs too. i chalked it up to doxygen output being
 broken
 for the kind of content/setup that efl ends up producing.


Documentation from which package are you unable to generate? I just
downloaded the latest eina stable code and the usual worked:


./configure
make doc
cd doc/latex
make


I have a PDF with 671 pages.

Have you installed texlive-most? Have you read the related wiki page on
ArchWiki? Just install texlive-most and you should be ready-to-go.


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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-11-03 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Dom, 2013-11-03 às 21:12 +0100, Jérémy Zurcher escreveu:

 No,
 pacman -S texlive-latexextra to solve the above on archlinux


texlive-latexextra is part of the texlive-most group. There is a whole
wiki page on ArchWiki dedicated to texlive.

If you don't want to care about LaTeX, just install the whole group and
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-11-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Dom, 2013-11-03 às 00:36 +, Andrew F escreveu:

 Lets give detailed assistance and give a reference in the docs if its
 available and known, and if you want brownie points, offer
 some narrative to tie it all together if appropriate.


Give detailed assistance and give reference is redundant work. If some E
developer has free time and is willing to help a user with problems,
then it could improve (just enough to help the user) the related docs
and point the user to the updated docs. This way, he only will invest
time for one thing (doc/ref) instead of two (doc/ref and user).

But this suggestion won't work for everything, of course.


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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 22:42 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu:

 given what you want is still a menu you can re-use the existing edje
 groups/parts for now until you have wrapped your head around edje.
 trust me -
 it's not something a document will tell you or teach you. it's cold
 hard slog
 and experience that will. :)


Rasterman,

I don't want to start a flame war or something, but maybe you're used to
shitty java documentation and this is the reason why you underestimate
documentation so much, but documentation is useful. This is an example
of a good documentation:
http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtgui/qpainter.html#details


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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qui, 2013-10-31 às 00:48 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu:

 this is simply a matter of time. spend 1hr adding a feature someone
 wants, or 1
 hr writing docs.


Documentation is a feature too.


 i personally use docs as reference only - i ALWAYS use example
 codee. nothing to do with java - it simply is faster, easier and more
 practical.


Documentation can include snippets.


 i read unix man pages to begin with and frankly they told me very
 little at all. a whole tonne of words for very little use. examples
 taught me
 100x more in the same amount of effort with docs backing it up as
 reference.


Comparing manpages with HTML rich (or even PDFs) docs.


  * Manpages cannot have images (maybe with Terminology this is no
longer true) and for a GUI toolkit this is kind of a must.
  * Manpages don't have an easily browsable content (like HTML) have

  * Summary
  * Detailed description and extra sections
  * Extra pages (not directly related to one class only)
  * A small text for each function



 as such most of efl does have docs. they are not voluminous essays.
 again - a
 matter of time. if you wish to contribute by writing voluminous docs..
 go for
 it. :)


The magic of open source. :)


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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 13:43 -0400, Nigel Sollars escreveu:

 Would be cool to find a common agreement here.
 
 Nige


Like Rasterman said: It's an open source project. We can change the
project and if the contribution is useful, it'll go upstream.

But about common agreement. This is not needed, because the options
don't exclude each other. We can have documentation AND examples.


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Re: [E-devel] Eo API change and C++ binding

2013-10-28 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Seg, 2013-10-28 às 20:17 -0200, Felipe Magno de Almeida escreveu:

 The tool that will generate the C++ binding will read the header files
 and with a CPP library it wil hook on EO3_DEFINE_* and EO3_DECLARE_*
 to read the class informations. This part of the tool will be written
 as a C++ library to be reused for other bindings to get the necessary
 information for the EFL API through its headers.


Please don't! Please don't make the same mistake of Qt developers. Don't
write yet another preprocessing tool.

At least, if you are going to write such a tool, write a complete parser
that will never have any trouble with #defines and newer syntax and
you're willing to maintain it... But... how will your tool know the
defines and such things? Probably I'll have to change my build system to
call your tool using the same compiler args...

I think you're aware that GTK-- is winning from Qt among some C++
developers, because GTK-- is more C++ish than Qt (thanks to moc and
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Re: [E-devel] Eo API change and C++ binding

2013-10-28 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Seg, 2013-10-28 às 20:55 -0200, Felipe Magno de Almeida escreveu:

 We're not creating a preprocessing tool as moc. The tool is just used
 to generate C++ classes from C, so that we have C++ classes that we
 can inherit, instantiate and call with a C++ familiar syntax. It will
 not be required in the build system for C++ applications. Just run
 it before installing EFL and install the generated headers for C++ EFL
 and #include them and use them.


That looks interesting. So we wouldn't need several C++ developers to
maintain the C++ port. All conversion would be automatic. One code base
to maintain is always better.
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Re: [E-devel] Eo API change and C++ binding

2013-10-28 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Seg, 2013-10-28 às 21:03 -0200, Felipe Magno de Almeida escreveu:

 Also,
 
 The C++ binding is not just the generated headers, there is going to
 be a EINA-specific C++ API and more classes that will help with MVC
 and other helpful abstractions that aren't attainable with generated
 code. The generated C++, though, gives a type-safe layer and makes
 evolution easier and safer as EFL evolves.


If good documentation is written, then I'll want to use EFL++ instead of
Qt in my now-stalled bomberman-like game somewhere in the future.

I hope you succeed with this work.
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Re: [E-devel] E19 Development Cycle

2013-10-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Michael Blumenkrantz is going to be the next release manager. We'll be
able to read the Enlightenment Hero of the Week again.
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Re: [E-devel] [RFC] Improving Eo boilerplate

2013-04-11 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2013/4/11 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr

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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] ANNOUNCE: EFL 1.7.5 Stable Series

2013-01-04 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Are you the new release manager?
=)


2013/1/4 Luis Felipe Strano Moraes luis.str...@gmail.com

 The Enlightenment Release Team is happy to announce the first series of
 updates
 to the EFL in 2013. Being an update to the stable tree, the 1.7.5 release
 is
 made mostly of bugfixes to our libraries.

 Please read the ChangeLog and NEWS files from each specific tarball in
 order to
 get more information about what has been fixed. This release corresponds
 with
 SVN revision 82180.

  - Eina 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eina-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eina-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Eet 1.7.5 - [GZ
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eet-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eet-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Evas 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evas-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evas-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Ecore 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ecore-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ecore-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Embryo 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/embryo-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/embryo-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Edje 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/edje-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/edje-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Efreet 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/efreet-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/efreet-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - E_dbus 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/e_dbus-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/e_dbus-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Eeze 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eeze-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eeze-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Expedite 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/expedite-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/expedite-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Evas Generic Loaders 1.7.5 -
 [GZ
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evas_generic_loaders-1.7.5.tar.gz
 ]
 [BZ2
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evas_generic_loaders-1.7.5.tar.bz2
 
 ]
  - Eio 1.7.5 - [GZ
 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eio-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/eio-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Emotion 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/emotion-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/emotion-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Ethumb 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ethumb-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ethumb-1.7.5.tar.bz2]
  - Elementary 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/elementary-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/elementary-1.7.5.tar.bz2
 ]
  - Evil 1.7.5 -
 [GZhttp://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evil-1.7.5.tar.gz]
 [BZ2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/evil-1.7.5.tar.bz2]

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Re: [E-devel] eo and efl

2012-12-29 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2012/12/29 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com

 reality is day in and
 out people turn up looking at efl as a single unit.


When will EFL be a single unit? What release?

I think I'll have free time to help with the C++ binding in a few months.

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Re: [E-devel] EPhysics status

2012-11-26 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2012/11/26 Bruno Dilly bdi...@profusion.mobi

 I've just posted about it.
 http://brunodilly.org/blog/ephysics_update/


I saw the video. Nice work.

Congratz.
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [Announce] E17 Release Date

2012-11-10 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2012/11/9 Michael Blumenkrantz michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com

 Any assistance from translators, bug fixers, and testers is great
 appreciated
 from here on out.


I have some spare time now and I can review and finish the translation for
brazilian portuguese before the release. How can I help (where I download
the translation files, what programs can I use to edit it, ...)?

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Re: [E-devel] ArchLinux updated binary packages?

2012-11-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2012/10/31 Tom Hacohen t...@stosb.com

 Also, soon enough we'll have a release
 and we'd want to discourage people from building off svn anyway.


Will E17 finally be released?
Cool.
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Re: [E-devel] Some thoughts on the e17 release

2012-07-12 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2012/7/12 Simon Lees si...@simotek.net

 Being someone who is not a packager and has no experience doing anything
 like it i think moving to a single build tree and efl lib is a great start.
 There are 2 other areas that i can see as issues the first being
 applications when i am building with easy e17 i struggle to work out what’s
 a application what’s stable and what’s worth building maybe there needs to
 be a stable and development directory for applications in svn instead of
 having them all in the root directory. Similarly with E-MODULES-EXTRA the
 poll a couple of weeks back showed that a lot of us use at least a few
 modules each but if the common ones like taskbar, cpu, net, comp scale
 don’t get moved into E17 and are left as extras they will risk being left
 out by some distro’s that only want stable packages or can’t be bothered
 figuring out what is worth packaging. Again i’d suggest a directory for
 stable modules and one for development modules so that distributions can
 easily find and produce 1 package of extra modules. Maybe it could even
 have a single build script as well as individual ones even a script that
 can be run that will call the individual configures makes and installs.
 From a users point of view i don’t want to install 1 package for each
 module i use its just a waste of time when you can unload them and they
 don’t use resources anyway. I do currently use daily packages on most of my
 machines and i imagine i would swap them to stable build at least until
 there’s a feature added that i want. On these machines i would also prefer
 to run E17 just from a package manager because i know the packages will be
 there and let’s face it its easier.


It would be nice something like gstreamer:


   - e-modules-good
   - e-modules-bad
   - e-modules-ugly


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Re: [E-devel] Wayland: Complete support for keyboard events

2012-05-02 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
2012/5/2 Boris Faure bill...@gmail.com

 Quoting raster:
  back when i was working on E like pre Dr0.13 i got complaints from irix
 users
  that these were not available for their platform - i just remained shy
 of them
  ever since as i could simply depend on a pseudo-standard that actually
 worked:
 
  char - 8bit
  short - 16bit
  int - 32bit
  long - 3n2/64bit
  long long - 64bit.
  void * - 32/64bit
 
  everything i've ever needed has fitted into one of these (or there have
 been
  special ways to do it - eg mmx/neon). as such due to history to keep
  consistency everything follows this.if you start throwing in int32_t's
 and
  bools and these types they will simply stand out as look weird in the
 api.


Seems reasonable.

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Re: [E-devel] e17 todo list - clock+calendar thing done

2011-06-06 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Awesome work.
Can't wait to install E17 on my Archlinux again.
:)

2011/6/6 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com

 a reminder...

 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Release

 has a todo list... and i'm wading through it bit by bit. i've knocked off a
 few
 of the items and this weekend i polished off the clock one. added a whole
 data
 calendar display in a popup when u click on the clock and a digital mode
 etc.

 i'm cherrypicking things from that list bit by bit to get things done, but
 it
 takes some work to get the items done, some need more work than others.
 anyone
 working on stuff should update that list if they are working on it (its a
 wiki
 page - editable) or if they dont plan on working on it, remove their name.

 fyi screenies of new clock stuff:

 http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-4debac6416a8f8.44420097.jpg
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Re: [E-devel] EFL 1.0 this weekend

2011-01-27 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
I can do the same with brazilian blogs
^^

2011/1/27 Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com

 I'll help with announcing Korean websites: let me list them up later.
 It'll be good if there is a good post for EFL advertisement.


Yes, this would be really great.


 I am willing to translate that to Korean.

 Thanks.
 Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)

 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com
 wrote:
  On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:17:00 -0200
  Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
 
  wrote:
   OK. I'm going to ask that people keep hands off EFL for the next few
 days
   unless ABSOLUTELY needed. I want to get 1.0 out this weekend (I was
 sick
   end of last week). this means only touch things if absolutely needed.
 I
   will be making stable 1.0 branches in svn that will get bugfix updates
   only. trunk will become 1.1 development for all EFL libs (as has been
   discussed before that are going 1.0). the release timeframes for these
 will
   vary from lib to lib - as features go in, it matures and settles a 1.1
 will
   come out. they will not be synchronised like this 1.0 release.
  
   as of 1.0 we have to keep the changelogs updated properly. any bugs
 fixed in
   trunk should also have the bugfix applies to the 1.0 stable branch so
 we can
   release bugfix releases easily and quickly.
  
   some libraries (like embryo) i don't ever see having a 1.1. it's
 stable and
   not doing anything. it will get bugfixes at most i imagine.
  
   i also know that several efl libraries have a long list of pending
 patches
   post 1.0 - i know these will all race into svn trunk after 1.0 and
 things
   may be a bit chaotic there for a few weeks. anyone relying on trunk
 should
   know that. i also expect a fairly quick 1.0 - 1.1 release cycle
 timeframe,
   so don't assume that there will be years before a 1.1 :) it may happen
 in
   the space of months or even weeks. as some point each library in trunk
 when
   readying for 1.1 or 1.2 etc. will go into a stabilization phase, then
 a
   freeze phase, then a release. if it depends on new features from other
   trunk development, it will have to wait for its dependencies to be
 released
   FIRST. we will have to maintain strict version checking at compile
 time
   (i'm tempted to also add it to runtime in the library init calls just
 in
   case).
  
   anyway - this weekend is it, so do whatever minor cleaning of docs or
   readmes or whatever, but prepare for 1.0 of EFL. this is the time to
 get
   the website in order for the 1.0 libs.
 
  Yay! Let's see if I can help with it!
 
  To help prepare and ensure the safety of the release, I will not be
 committing
  again until after branching has occurred.
 
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[E-devel] Exception handling with EFL

2011-01-17 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Is there any implementation in Enlightenment to use exception handling in C?

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