Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
I'd like to see a new forum. The current one is pretty lame :( Perhaps something a little more standard or as folks like to say, Better. :) Toma 2008/8/5 Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: whoops messed up on the link it's http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/08/2008, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this: http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png(flame me if you want) minus the fact that I think the inkscape in brief section should be just a wider news section and take the little news box off the side. but I like designs like that because they list all the links to the different web software. Songbird does this on their site too but their site is a little too busy http://getsongbird.com/ just my thoughts I like the Inkscape mockup. Looks professional and has all the content at a place thats very easy to see. The icons help too for those that dont know english and cant be bothered switching to their language translation. Songbird one give me the idea of using some cool ajax for the icons. Since EFL and all can do cool animations, maybe something neat like that could make its way into the website? Toma On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:06 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. Yes, I realize this, most of the links in the submenus will just point to the wiki/tracker/etc. But people found it hard to even find these things on the current site. So it would be nice to point them to where they need to look instead of them having to decode links that don't necessarily match anything they are looking for. So the changes to navigation are nothing stellar, just reorganizing the menu and making the submenu a little more visible so people immediately see things to click on. At least this is what I did with my mockup, haven't seen anyone else come forward with anything yet. I'm with Mekius. The number one complaint that I get about the website is that the navigation sucks. If we can do something to make it easier for people to find stuff then it's a win. dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
I dont think the forums are getting much use. Few, if any, of the devs look at it, and while a bunch of users seem to post questions, there are very few answers. I'd like to see the forums turned off (made read-only) and the mailing lists really emphasized as the main location for discussions/support (apart from IRC). Eventually, we could install lurker on the server http://lurker.sourceforge.net/ tweak it to fit the website's style and add a web form so that people can send messages to the mailing list through the interface. (kinda like a hybrid mailing-list/forum) But for now, (k-s's suggestion) we could just link here http://www.mail-archive.com/enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/ Its at least more usable than sourceforge's UI. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see a new forum. The current one is pretty lame :( Perhaps something a little more standard or as folks like to say, Better. :) Toma 2008/8/5 Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: whoops messed up on the link it's http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/08/2008, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this: http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png(flame me if you want) minus the fact that I think the inkscape in brief section should be just a wider news section and take the little news box off the side. but I like designs like that because they list all the links to the different web software. Songbird does this on their site too but their site is a little too busy http://getsongbird.com/ just my thoughts I like the Inkscape mockup. Looks professional and has all the content at a place thats very easy to see. The icons help too for those that dont know english and cant be bothered switching to their language translation. Songbird one give me the idea of using some cool ajax for the icons. Since EFL and all can do cool animations, maybe something neat like that could make its way into the website? Toma On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:06 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. Yes, I realize this, most of the links in the submenus will just point to the wiki/tracker/etc. But people found it hard to even find these things on the current site. So it would be nice to point them to where they need to look instead of them having to decode links that don't necessarily match anything they are looking for. So the changes to navigation are nothing stellar, just reorganizing the menu and making the submenu a little more visible so people immediately see things to click on. At least this is what I did with my mockup, haven't seen anyone else come forward with anything yet. I'm with Mekius. The number one complaint that I get about the website is that the navigation sucks. If we can do something to make it easier for people to find stuff then it's a win. dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
On 04/08/2008, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this: http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png(flame me if you want) minus the fact that I think the inkscape in brief section should be just a wider news section and take the little news box off the side. but I like designs like that because they list all the links to the different web software. Songbird does this on their site too but their site is a little too busy http://getsongbird.com/ just my thoughts I like the Inkscape mockup. Looks professional and has all the content at a place thats very easy to see. The icons help too for those that dont know english and cant be bothered switching to their language translation. Songbird one give me the idea of using some cool ajax for the icons. Since EFL and all can do cool animations, maybe something neat like that could make its way into the website? Toma On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:06 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. Yes, I realize this, most of the links in the submenus will just point to the wiki/tracker/etc. But people found it hard to even find these things on the current site. So it would be nice to point them to where they need to look instead of them having to decode links that don't necessarily match anything they are looking for. So the changes to navigation are nothing stellar, just reorganizing the menu and making the submenu a little more visible so people immediately see things to click on. At least this is what I did with my mockup, haven't seen anyone else come forward with anything yet. I'm with Mekius. The number one complaint that I get about the website is that the navigation sucks. If we can do something to make it easier for people to find stuff then it's a win. dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
whoops messed up on the link it's http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/08/2008, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this: http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png(flamehttp://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png%28flame me if you want) minus the fact that I think the inkscape in brief section should be just a wider news section and take the little news box off the side. but I like designs like that because they list all the links to the different web software. Songbird does this on their site too but their site is a little too busy http://getsongbird.com/ just my thoughts I like the Inkscape mockup. Looks professional and has all the content at a place thats very easy to see. The icons help too for those that dont know english and cant be bothered switching to their language translation. Songbird one give me the idea of using some cool ajax for the icons. Since EFL and all can do cool animations, maybe something neat like that could make its way into the website? Toma On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:06 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. Yes, I realize this, most of the links in the submenus will just point to the wiki/tracker/etc. But people found it hard to even find these things on the current site. So it would be nice to point them to where they need to look instead of them having to decode links that don't necessarily match anything they are looking for. So the changes to navigation are nothing stellar, just reorganizing the menu and making the submenu a little more visible so people immediately see things to click on. At least this is what I did with my mockup, haven't seen anyone else come forward with anything yet. I'm with Mekius. The number one complaint that I get about the website is that the navigation sucks. If we can do something to make it easier for people to find stuff then it's a win. dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Zachary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 8/1/08, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it should have. My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site *1. Create links to all the software ( wiki, bug tracker, forums, source browser etc)* *2. Make the website more user oriented. A lot of the content can be moved to the wiki. We need the website to be a lot more static. * *3. Separate developer sections from user.* *4. Create a feature list page in order to make E more of a product that we're trying to talk about* *5. weekly or biweekly articles* *a. We will have a submission article system in which we will stack up articles and release one a week regarding E. * *b. This will allow users who aren't good at coding or able to help in that way to keep track of what's happening and write articles regarding the progress.* *c. This will also help people who are writing applications be able to follow development and get inspiration from other application developers.* *d. Or just content such as user guides for different things* *6.Translations* *a. Allow people to have the website content translated into multiple languages.* *7. One login to rule them all* *a. Having 10 different logins for all the different software isn't working it would be really nice to see a lot of them consolidated into a login api such as openid or google accounts.* All in all the website needs to me more of a pamphlet than a handbook for everything under the sun. *Note* Please do not start on any designs That will come later and we have plans for making prizes for it. Stay tuned. --Ian Inc - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel The current site has a huge usability problem : theres 3 menus and they're all in different styles and in different places. One navigation system which is obvious should be sufficient. -Zach - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
defiantly but, The site should have links to all those resources so that you know where they are. I think that's one of the major down falls of the current site. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 3:27 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Zachary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/08, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it should have. My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site *1. Create links to all the software ( wiki, bug tracker, forums, source browser etc)* *2. Make the website more user oriented. A lot of the content can be moved to the wiki. We need the website to be a lot more static. * *3. Separate developer sections from user.* *4. Create a feature list page in order to make E more of a product that we're trying to talk about* *5. weekly or biweekly articles* *a. We will have a submission article system in which we will stack up articles and release one a week regarding E. * *b. This will allow users who aren't good at coding or able to help in that way to keep track of what's happening and write articles regarding the progress.* *c. This will also help people who are writing applications be able to follow development and get inspiration from other application developers.* *d. Or just content such as user guides for different things* *6.Translations* *a. Allow people to have the website content translated into multiple languages.* *7. One login to rule them all* *a. Having 10 different logins for all the different software isn't working it would be really nice to see a lot of them consolidated into a login api such as openid or google accounts.* All in all the website needs to me more of a pamphlet than a handbook for everything under the sun. *Note* Please do not start on any designs That will come later and we have plans for making prizes for it. Stay tuned. --Ian Inc - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel The current site has a huge usability problem : theres 3 menus and they're all in different styles and in different places. One navigation system which is obvious should be sufficient. -Zach - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. Yes, I realize this, most of the links in the submenus will just point to the wiki/tracker/etc. But people found it hard to even find these things on the current site. So it would be nice to point them to where they need to look instead of them having to decode links that don't necessarily match anything they are looking for. So the changes to navigation are nothing stellar, just reorganizing the menu and making the submenu a little more visible so people immediately see things to click on. At least this is what I did with my mockup, haven't seen anyone else come forward with anything yet. I'm with Mekius. The number one complaint that I get about the website is that the navigation sucks. If we can do something to make it easier for people to find stuff then it's a win. dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this: http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png(flame me if you want) minus the fact that I think the inkscape in brief section should be just a wider news section and take the little news box off the side. but I like designs like that because they list all the links to the different web software. Songbird does this on their site too but their site is a little too busy http://getsongbird.com/ just my thoughts On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:06 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. Yes, I realize this, most of the links in the submenus will just point to the wiki/tracker/etc. But people found it hard to even find these things on the current site. So it would be nice to point them to where they need to look instead of them having to decode links that don't necessarily match anything they are looking for. So the changes to navigation are nothing stellar, just reorganizing the menu and making the submenu a little more visible so people immediately see things to click on. At least this is what I did with my mockup, haven't seen anyone else come forward with anything yet. I'm with Mekius. The number one complaint that I get about the website is that the navigation sucks. If we can do something to make it easier for people to find stuff then it's a win. dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?
minus the horrible color scheme. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Ian Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this: http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoesoink.png(flame me if you want) minus the fact that I think the inkscape in brief section should be just a wider news section and take the little news box off the side. but I like designs like that because they list all the links to the different web software. Songbird does this on their site too but their site is a little too busy http://getsongbird.com/ just my thoughts On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:06 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. This is bad design imo, it leads to overload. Having to dig through a ton of links to find the one you want is crazy, it's best to be able to filter towards your goal IMO. Much easier to filter then to try and find a link among many that sounds like what you want. This is how my brain works anyway. we don't need some new navigation system... we need to simplify content, only put up what we absolutely need on the e.org brochure site (it's meant to be a simple couple of pages brochure/flier like set of pages with just the minimum needed to find out what e is, who is involved, how/where to get it). the other bits (trac/bugzilla, wiki, docs etc. etc.) are what is intended for large-scale documentation and info - and those (the wiki especially) is READILY accessible to people to edit. Yes, I realize this, most of the links in the submenus will just point to the wiki/tracker/etc. But people found it hard to even find these things on the current site. So it would be nice to point them to where they need to look instead of them having to decode links that don't necessarily match anything they are looking for. So the changes to navigation are nothing stellar, just reorganizing the menu and making the submenu a little more visible so people immediately see things to click on. At least this is what I did with my mockup, haven't seen anyone else come forward with anything yet. I'm with Mekius. The number one complaint that I get about the website is that the navigation sucks. If we can do something to make it easier for people to find stuff then it's a win. dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
