Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment : Shell, Apps, Dev Libs.

2014-06-23 Thread Kai Huuhko
Most of the apps are listed on our phab wiki at

https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/
and
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/projects/python_bindings_for_efl/#projects-using-python-ef

You can see the development activity and the descriptions of apps and
modules on our git web interface at

http://git.enlightenment.org/


2014-06-23 14:15 GMT+03:00 Jose Gonzalez jose_...@juno.com:

 Looking at the e website to see if I can get some up-to-date
 info on enlightenment and the usual components that are seen as
 making up a modern graphical userdev environment... Just for
 completeness and reference's sake, since I haven't kept up to date
 with E lately, and for a LinuxWombat article I'm writing.

 Checking now.

 The enlightenment shell has the 'about e17' page, which is pretty
 good..
 But can't seem to find any list of all the shell's modules/gadgets,
 what they do, etc. Is there a weather gadget? A clock gadget?
 A notification gadget? . Any other places where one can download
 e-shell modules/gadgets? I wonder if one can write such modules/gadgets
 with javascript? Would such info be under a shell-dev section...?

 The enlightenment dev libs (efl and elm) seem well described.
 Lots of them... hopefully elm subsumes them all for most app-dev uses.
 Is it possible to write and deploy enlightenment html apps?
 Can one write e-shell gadgets with elm widgets? Maybe take a look
 at some enlightenment apps to get a feeling for these dev libs...

 The enlightenment apps... Ummm... Presumably the above dev libs
 are good for writing such apps. Well, no file-manager app as that's
 actually part of the shell. Ok, how about an image viewing/slide-show
 app? Music/video player app? Terminal app(!)? Login-manager?
 Shell-theme editor? Text editor? Notes? Mail reader? Network manager?
 Calendar? Calculator? Games?  Where are the apps listed???


 
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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment : Shell, Apps, Dev Libs.

2014-06-23 Thread jose_...@juno.com

   Ummm... Well that phab page sure is mysterious. It does have some
stuff like the shell's modules list - but wouldn't it be better to put that
as a link on the about e-17 page? And things like gadget design and such
under some enlightenment shell dev link as well rather than in this 
phab Wiki page? Really bad idea to put everything in a Wiki page.
 
   Also, the apps listed there are not only rather few, fewer than I know
have existed, but other than enlightenment and terminology you can't even 
navigate to any of them without login in.

 Really, the main e.org page ought to clearly show something on these 
three primary aspects -- the shell, the dev libs, and the apps. Currently,
only the first two are there in any real way. 
 The About page shows a list of some apps and additional libs, yet none 
of these are in the phab page you mentioned, and conversely terminology 
(which is in the phab page) is not shown in the about page in the list of apps 
but rather at the top as a navigation tab - could refer to a glossary of terms.

 Rather a confusing, disorganized mess for something that ought to be
rather simple: Three main categories highlighted with compelling descriptions - 
the gui shell (link to further details), the apps (link to further details), 
and the dev libs (link to further details, docs, etc).
The other aspects (download, contact, dev, etc) need to coordinate
with those -- for example, you can 'download' exquisite and expedite but 
who knows what those are - they're listed in the About page but no working 
links, 
and they're not in your phab wiki. Absurd.



-- Original Message --
From: Kai Huuhko kai.huu...@gmail.com
To: Enlightenment developer list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment : Shell, Apps, Dev Libs.
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:36:05 +0300

Most of the apps are listed on our phab wiki at

https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/
and
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/projects/python_bindings_for_efl/#projects-using-python-ef

You can see the development activity and the descriptions of apps and
modules on our git web interface at

http://git.enlightenment.org/


2014-06-23 14:15 GMT+03:00 Jose Gonzalez jose_...@juno.com:

 Looking at the e website to see if I can get some up-to-date
 info on enlightenment and the usual components that are seen as
 making up a modern graphical userdev environment... Just for
 completeness and reference's sake, since I haven't kept up to date
 with E lately, and for a LinuxWombat article I'm writing.

 Checking now.

 The enlightenment shell has the 'about e17' page, which is pretty
 good..
 But can't seem to find any list of all the shell's modules/gadgets,
 what they do, etc. Is there a weather gadget? A clock gadget?
 A notification gadget? . Any other places where one can download
 e-shell modules/gadgets? I wonder if one can write such modules/gadgets
 with javascript? Would such info be under a shell-dev section...?

 The enlightenment dev libs (efl and elm) seem well described.
 Lots of them... hopefully elm subsumes them all for most app-dev uses.
 Is it possible to write and deploy enlightenment html apps?
 Can one write e-shell gadgets with elm widgets? Maybe take a look
 at some enlightenment apps to get a feeling for these dev libs...

 The enlightenment apps... Ummm... Presumably the above dev libs
 are good for writing such apps. Well, no file-manager app as that's
 actually part of the shell. Ok, how about an image viewing/slide-show
 app? Music/video player app? Terminal app(!)? Login-manager?
 Shell-theme editor? Text editor? Notes? Mail reader? Network manager?
 Calendar? Calculator? Games?  Where are the apps listed???


 
 Do THIS before eating carbs (every time)
 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar  decrease fat storage
 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53a80ad66db8cad43ad9st03duc

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