Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:48:17 +0200 Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

seriously guys... SIMPLE! making it some javascript extravaganza is just going
to waste time and make ti hard to update. we are about writing a wm and toolkit
- we are not about writing javascript ui demos.

i dont see why we have to redesign the website look - just clean up the content.

 And what about a site made with enlightenment like a small OS inside
 the browser?
 In the E menu we can insert all the link that we need.
 
 It will be intresting a thing like eyeOS, with the content (wiki,
 guides, jpg, themes, etc...) inside the directory in a virtual OS?
 
 Thare will be a completely different approach to the site, and we can
 simultaneusly show all the beauty inside e17.
 
 
 ok I now, It's a stupid idea.
 
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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread Massimiliano Calamelli
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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 seriously guys... SIMPLE! making it some javascript extravaganza is just going
 to waste time and make ti hard to update. we are about writing a wm and 
 toolkit
 - we are not about writing javascript ui demos.

I totally agree.
About the mockup, i'm not able to produce the graphic, but if you want
an example of clear, lightweight and elegant website take a look to
www.netbsd.org .

Ciao  

Massimiliano
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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:48:17 +0200 Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 seriously guys... SIMPLE! making it some javascript extravaganza is just going
 to waste time and make ti hard to update. we are about writing a wm and 
 toolkit
   

That sounds about as exciting as days old pancakes! Instead of those kinds
of uninteresting, pseudo-technical, limiting descriptions of what enlightenment
'is' or isn't, how about something more along the lines of ...enabling a richer
graphical computing experience... along a broad spectrum of


 - we are not about writing javascript ui demos.
   

It could be, if that might be a more more effective way to bring out 
whatever
it is one wants to bring across.. or maybe not. But it's something that might 
be best
decided/designed by an experienced, talented, gfx and web-design team.. one 
willing
to keep things cooking on the web front. :)


 i dont see why we have to redesign the website look - just clean up the 
 content.

   
Provide an entrance point to the many kinds of people who might find such 
an enlightenment
thing interesting, and links to the various aspects - whether they be a 
developers section
with whatever there, to community sections with whatever there, to a pr/contact 
section, etc.



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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread Mathieu Prevot
I would like to suggest the use of a django framework: fast, simple to
maintain and with a clear separation of design and content. I also
prefer Django's site design to NetBSD's, but I think enlightenment
deserve something even better.

http://www.djangoproject.com/

For those that would add effects and interactivity (that would be a
kind of reflection of the efl possibilities), I would suggest also
those toolkits:

http://jquery.com/
http://mochikit.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_JavaScript_frameworks

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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread Peter Wehrfritz
Mathieu Prevot schrieb:
 I would like to suggest the use of a django framework: fast, simple to
 maintain and with a clear separation of design and content. I also
 prefer Django's site design to NetBSD's, but I think enlightenment
 deserve something even better.
   

I personally don't like 3 column pages. It is very hard to distinguish 
where you find what. I like simple pages, with one part for the content 
and one part for the site navigation (no matter if it on the top, or on 
the left side). And the first page should only show a _short_ about and 
the latest news. Actually like the current page is. There are only two 
points that i don't like with the current page. It is the low contrast 
gray font on gray background and the navigation bar. I think it'd be 
better if the navigation buttons would be in one line and the submenu 
items in a similar appearance. Maybe like it is in mekius' approach.

Regards Peter

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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Peter Wehrfritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mathieu Prevot schrieb:
 I would like to suggest the use of a django framework: fast, simple to
 maintain and with a clear separation of design and content. I also
 prefer Django's site design to NetBSD's, but I think enlightenment
 deserve something even better.

 I personally don't like 3 column pages. It is very hard to distinguish
 where you find what. I like simple pages, with one part for the content
 and one part for the site navigation (no matter if it on the top, or on
 the left side). And the first page should only show a _short_ about and
 the latest news. Actually like the current page is. There are only two
 points that i don't like with the current page. It is the low contrast
 gray font on gray background and the navigation bar. I think it'd be
 better if the navigation buttons would be in one line and the submenu
 items in a similar appearance. Maybe like it is in mekius' approach.

I really prefer the simple page approach too, I am really lost in this
netbsd site. I also don't like the current navigation bar and I prefer
mekius one.

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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread Downknew Wise
My mockup...
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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-02 Thread Ian C.

Downknew Wise wrote:

My mockup...
   



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sorry, your mockup for some reason wasn't attached can you upload it to 
stashbox.org or something or screenshot it? thanks
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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-01 Thread Toma
Here was my idea.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/e17/e-website.png
Needs more links and content and better icons, but the basic idea is
there. It basically follows the 3 Big Stupid Buttunz design
philosophy of other projects like OpenSuse and so on. Of course, the
content pages could be much different. What about a mashup of that
idea with mekius's? I like his site a lot.

Toma.


2008/9/1 Ian C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hello, I know we have been talking about redesigning enlightenment.org to be
 more user friendly for quite awhile, I'd really like to see this done soon.
 We've finally moved from cvs to svn and to the latest version of trac. We've
 already come to the agreement that the current design is not usable so no
 reason to debate it further. I also know that a lot of you're are skilled in
 web design, web development as well as artistic. This is a way for those of
 you who may know how to code in php  but not C to contribute to the project.
 So here's what we're looking for. We'll divide this into a few phases. First
 off I'd like to see some mockups of what you guys think the new
 enlightenment.org should look like.  Basically what we are looking for a
 very nice, simple clean site. The problems that we currently have with the
 current site is that it is a mess, most the content is scattered and not all
 needed on the website, some of it just plain belongs in the wiki. The main
 things need to stand out more (bugs, exchange, svn, wiki, and so on. A
 user should be able to visit a site and be able to find what he needs
 easily. The current sites submenus are very confusing and not necessary, use
 the content to provide the links. So lets see what you guys can bring to the
 table and we'll fine tune it and decide which one we think is best suited
 for enlightenments needs. Also please note this is only the mockup phase,
 we're not going to debate cms's etc at this point.
 thanks, We look forward to seeing your submissions.
 --Inc

 P.S so far the only mockup we've recieved is mekius's which can be found  @
 http://edev.mekius.net/

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Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!

2008-09-01 Thread Ian C.

Toma wrote:

Here was my idea.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/e17/e-website.png
Needs more links and content and better icons, but the basic idea is
there. It basically follows the 3 Big Stupid Buttunz design
philosophy of other projects like OpenSuse and so on. Of course, the
content pages could be much different. What about a mashup of that
idea with mekius's? I like his site a lot.

Toma.


2008/9/1 Ian C.[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   

hello, I know we have been talking about redesigning enlightenment.org to be
more user friendly for quite awhile, I'd really like to see this done soon.
We've finally moved from cvs to svn and to the latest version of trac. We've
already come to the agreement that the current design is not usable so no
reason to debate it further. I also know that a lot of you're are skilled in
web design, web development as well as artistic. This is a way for those of
you who may know how to code in php  but not C to contribute to the project.
So here's what we're looking for. We'll divide this into a few phases. First
off I'd like to see some mockups of what you guys think the new
enlightenment.org should look like.  Basically what we are looking for a
very nice, simple clean site. The problems that we currently have with the
current site is that it is a mess, most the content is scattered and not all
needed on the website, some of it just plain belongs in the wiki. The main
things need to stand out more (bugs, exchange, svn, wiki, and so on. A
user should be able to visit a site and be able to find what he needs
easily. The current sites submenus are very confusing and not necessary, use
the content to provide the links. So lets see what you guys can bring to the
table and we'll fine tune it and decide which one we think is best suited
for enlightenments needs. Also please note this is only the mockup phase,
we're not going to debate cms's etc at this point.
thanks, We look forward to seeing your submissions.
--Inc

P.S so far the only mockup we've recieved is mekius's which can be found  @
http://edev.mekius.net/

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That's a little bit too simple, Lets say a user visits the site and sees 
that, Where do they go from there? What if they want to file a bug?
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