Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:48:17 +0200 Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: seriously guys... SIMPLE! making it some javascript extravaganza is just going to waste time and make ti hard to update. we are about writing a wm and toolkit - we are not about writing javascript ui demos. i dont see why we have to redesign the website look - just clean up the content. And what about a site made with enlightenment like a small OS inside the browser? In the E menu we can insert all the link that we need. It will be intresting a thing like eyeOS, with the content (wiki, guides, jpg, themes, etc...) inside the directory in a virtual OS? Thare will be a completely different approach to the site, and we can simultaneusly show all the beauty inside e17. ok I now, It's a stupid idea. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:01:33 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously guys... SIMPLE! making it some javascript extravaganza is just going to waste time and make ti hard to update. we are about writing a wm and toolkit - we are not about writing javascript ui demos. I totally agree. About the mockup, i'm not able to produce the graphic, but if you want an example of clear, lightweight and elegant website take a look to www.netbsd.org . Ciao Massimiliano - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://mcalamelli.netsons.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFIvPPfleGEL56NNP4RAqBeAKD8BFsqjfsF3Z+0IL1tilt7fijn6QCg50Gi 54RH4aNV3+7jEDaUg1SRbqE= =xN33 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:48:17 +0200 Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: seriously guys... SIMPLE! making it some javascript extravaganza is just going to waste time and make ti hard to update. we are about writing a wm and toolkit That sounds about as exciting as days old pancakes! Instead of those kinds of uninteresting, pseudo-technical, limiting descriptions of what enlightenment 'is' or isn't, how about something more along the lines of ...enabling a richer graphical computing experience... along a broad spectrum of - we are not about writing javascript ui demos. It could be, if that might be a more more effective way to bring out whatever it is one wants to bring across.. or maybe not. But it's something that might be best decided/designed by an experienced, talented, gfx and web-design team.. one willing to keep things cooking on the web front. :) i dont see why we have to redesign the website look - just clean up the content. Provide an entrance point to the many kinds of people who might find such an enlightenment thing interesting, and links to the various aspects - whether they be a developers section with whatever there, to community sections with whatever there, to a pr/contact section, etc. Flexible Medical Administration programs. Click to start advancing your career. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oIq812dVhCXWoUxa3dCQ7KomTfmrTIPYsotqlhiBT7mqShG/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
I would like to suggest the use of a django framework: fast, simple to maintain and with a clear separation of design and content. I also prefer Django's site design to NetBSD's, but I think enlightenment deserve something even better. http://www.djangoproject.com/ For those that would add effects and interactivity (that would be a kind of reflection of the efl possibilities), I would suggest also those toolkits: http://jquery.com/ http://mochikit.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_JavaScript_frameworks Mathieu - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
Mathieu Prevot schrieb: I would like to suggest the use of a django framework: fast, simple to maintain and with a clear separation of design and content. I also prefer Django's site design to NetBSD's, but I think enlightenment deserve something even better. I personally don't like 3 column pages. It is very hard to distinguish where you find what. I like simple pages, with one part for the content and one part for the site navigation (no matter if it on the top, or on the left side). And the first page should only show a _short_ about and the latest news. Actually like the current page is. There are only two points that i don't like with the current page. It is the low contrast gray font on gray background and the navigation bar. I think it'd be better if the navigation buttons would be in one line and the submenu items in a similar appearance. Maybe like it is in mekius' approach. Regards Peter - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Peter Wehrfritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathieu Prevot schrieb: I would like to suggest the use of a django framework: fast, simple to maintain and with a clear separation of design and content. I also prefer Django's site design to NetBSD's, but I think enlightenment deserve something even better. I personally don't like 3 column pages. It is very hard to distinguish where you find what. I like simple pages, with one part for the content and one part for the site navigation (no matter if it on the top, or on the left side). And the first page should only show a _short_ about and the latest news. Actually like the current page is. There are only two points that i don't like with the current page. It is the low contrast gray font on gray background and the navigation bar. I think it'd be better if the navigation buttons would be in one line and the submenu items in a similar appearance. Maybe like it is in mekius' approach. I really prefer the simple page approach too, I am really lost in this netbsd site. I also don't like the current navigation bar and I prefer mekius one. -- Cedric BAIL - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
My mockup... - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
Downknew Wise wrote: My mockup... - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel sorry, your mockup for some reason wasn't attached can you upload it to stashbox.org or something or screenshot it? thanks begin:vcard fn:Ian Caldwell n:Caldwell;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] version:2.1 end:vcard - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
Here was my idea. http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/e17/e-website.png Needs more links and content and better icons, but the basic idea is there. It basically follows the 3 Big Stupid Buttunz design philosophy of other projects like OpenSuse and so on. Of course, the content pages could be much different. What about a mashup of that idea with mekius's? I like his site a lot. Toma. 2008/9/1 Ian C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello, I know we have been talking about redesigning enlightenment.org to be more user friendly for quite awhile, I'd really like to see this done soon. We've finally moved from cvs to svn and to the latest version of trac. We've already come to the agreement that the current design is not usable so no reason to debate it further. I also know that a lot of you're are skilled in web design, web development as well as artistic. This is a way for those of you who may know how to code in php but not C to contribute to the project. So here's what we're looking for. We'll divide this into a few phases. First off I'd like to see some mockups of what you guys think the new enlightenment.org should look like. Basically what we are looking for a very nice, simple clean site. The problems that we currently have with the current site is that it is a mess, most the content is scattered and not all needed on the website, some of it just plain belongs in the wiki. The main things need to stand out more (bugs, exchange, svn, wiki, and so on. A user should be able to visit a site and be able to find what he needs easily. The current sites submenus are very confusing and not necessary, use the content to provide the links. So lets see what you guys can bring to the table and we'll fine tune it and decide which one we think is best suited for enlightenments needs. Also please note this is only the mockup phase, we're not going to debate cms's etc at this point. thanks, We look forward to seeing your submissions. --Inc P.S so far the only mockup we've recieved is mekius's which can be found @ http://edev.mekius.net/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment.org redesign mockups needed!
Toma wrote: Here was my idea. http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/e17/e-website.png Needs more links and content and better icons, but the basic idea is there. It basically follows the 3 Big Stupid Buttunz design philosophy of other projects like OpenSuse and so on. Of course, the content pages could be much different. What about a mashup of that idea with mekius's? I like his site a lot. Toma. 2008/9/1 Ian C.[EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello, I know we have been talking about redesigning enlightenment.org to be more user friendly for quite awhile, I'd really like to see this done soon. We've finally moved from cvs to svn and to the latest version of trac. We've already come to the agreement that the current design is not usable so no reason to debate it further. I also know that a lot of you're are skilled in web design, web development as well as artistic. This is a way for those of you who may know how to code in php but not C to contribute to the project. So here's what we're looking for. We'll divide this into a few phases. First off I'd like to see some mockups of what you guys think the new enlightenment.org should look like. Basically what we are looking for a very nice, simple clean site. The problems that we currently have with the current site is that it is a mess, most the content is scattered and not all needed on the website, some of it just plain belongs in the wiki. The main things need to stand out more (bugs, exchange, svn, wiki, and so on. A user should be able to visit a site and be able to find what he needs easily. The current sites submenus are very confusing and not necessary, use the content to provide the links. So lets see what you guys can bring to the table and we'll fine tune it and decide which one we think is best suited for enlightenments needs. Also please note this is only the mockup phase, we're not going to debate cms's etc at this point. thanks, We look forward to seeing your submissions. --Inc P.S so far the only mockup we've recieved is mekius's which can be found @ http://edev.mekius.net/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel That's a little bit too simple, Lets say a user visits the site and sees that, Where do they go from there? What if they want to file a bug? begin:vcard fn:Ian Caldwell n:Caldwell;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] version:2.1 end:vcard - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel