Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 83
On 02/17/2013 01:15 PM, المسالم المسالمة wrote: I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that? But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback: Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their mockups to the e devel list? What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it and thus convince e17 devs to get rid of this old fashioned desktop look that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing... and go with yours instead ? did you see me once have tried just tried to mock-up some people here you seemed to be confused who did mock the other one me or the people who speaks with dirty talk You need to have a thicker skin here. :) No one here is mocking your *ideas*. People are simply having some fun *but at the same time* asking for more information. It is not like your ideas or implementation can not coexist with the current interface. Look at elfe which is a completely different interface and is happily residing in svn, albeit unofficially: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/elfe Look at engage, which is a very good dock, but is in svn, still unofficially: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/engage You can not right away expect people to throw away the current implementation and design and adopt a radically new design. One has to be patient, show the code, and over time it might migrate to be a core e module/interface. This is what happened with many of the modules that are currently in an official e distribution - systray, tasks, keyboard, run everything, etc. -- The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel - in partnership with Geeknet, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials, tech docs, whitepapers, evaluation guides, and opinion stories. Check out the most recent posts - join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 83
P Purkayastha wrote: On 02/17/2013 01:15 PM, المسالم المسالمة wrote: I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that? But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback: Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their mockups to the e devel list? What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it and thus convince e17 devs to get rid of this old fashioned desktop look that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing... and go with yours instead ? did you see me once have tried just tried to mock-up some people here you seemed to be confused who did mock the other one me or the people who speaks with dirty talk You need to have a thicker skin here. :) No one here is mocking your *ideas*. People are simply having some fun *but at the same time* asking for more information. It is not like your ideas or implementation can not coexist with the current interface. Look at elfe which is a completely different interface and is happily residing in svn, albeit unofficially: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/elfe Look at engage, which is a very good dock, but is in svn, still unofficially: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/engage You can not right away expect people to throw away the current implementation and design and adopt a radically new design. One has to be patient, show the code, and over time it might migrate to be a core e module/interface. This is what happened with many of the modules that are currently in an official e distribution - systray, tasks, keyboard, run everything, etc. Exactly. This guy did have a nice idea for a possible e17 module, and hopefully it will get implemented as per his vision so that people can then try it out. Maybe some distro will take that as the basis of a custom profile of their own and offer it as their notion of the default shell, rather than the standard one(s) that ships with e17. There are many such ideas out there, both domain specific and quite generic, and likely many more yet to thought of. I'm actually surprised that distributions like say Bodhi Linux haven't offered some custom Bodhi defined profiles of their own besides the ones shipped with e. Perhaps defining such profiles is unknown or obscure or ..? But to have a truly 'popular' shell-customization mechanism, a bit more needs to be refined so as to be more geared towards skinners/themers, and just all those who like to customize their own environments. Then people would be able to do more than just show a screenshot of their custom environment, and instead be able to actually share it. Skinners could make very interesting ones that can amaze people, and even distributions could take advantage of this to popularize their brand. Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51216c17842a86c12076est02vuc -- The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel - in partnership with Geeknet, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials, tech docs, whitepapers, evaluation guides, and opinion stories. Check out the most recent posts - join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 83
I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that? But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback: Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their mockups to the e devel list? What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it and thus convince e17 devs to get rid of this old fashioned desktop look that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing... and go with yours instead ? did you see me once have tried just tried to mock-up some people here you seemed to be confused who did mock the other one me or the people who speaks with dirty talk The point you should be embracing is not to force people to only accept e17's current 'old-fashioned' idea, or your cocky one, or some osx clone, or some gnomic notion, etc... but to empower designers such as yourself with the ability to do more than just show some gif. It's to enable them to easily share such shell-skins so that others may actually try them. It might even be the case that if yours became very popular, then the e17 devs might decide to choose that as (one of) some set of 'official' default shells. hey man . i think you read my previous message and i has already said in it i want to share and give E a good look not to force you and the other and mocking the others -- The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel - in partnership with Geeknet, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials, tech docs, whitepapers, evaluation guides, and opinion stories. Check out the most recent posts - join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 83
المسالم المسالمة wrote: I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that? But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback: Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their mockups to the e devel list? What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it and thus convince e17 devs to get rid of this old fashioned desktop look that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing... and go with yours instead ? did you see me once have tried just tried to mock-up some people here you seemed to be confused who did mock the other one me or the people who speaks with dirty talk Again with the language translation issue... A mockup is a non-functioning model of something meant to give an idea of what the real thing would be like -- in this case you made a gif that is a mockup of what your shell design is meant to be. Take the time to both check spelling and understand what people are saying before you off and take offense and start over-reacting. How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51206b8a548156b883a54st04duc -- The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel - in partnership with Geeknet, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials, tech docs, whitepapers, evaluation guides, and opinion stories. Check out the most recent posts - join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
