Re: [e-users] another bg.po update

2005-08-01 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x261,
root 0x48, subw 0x0, time 583904, (71,82), root:(75,448),
state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xfe0a, ISO_Prev_Group), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 

KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x261,
root 0x48, subw 0x0, time 584094, (71,82), root:(75,448),
state 0x0, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False

these are the keysums for the alt (for down and up respectively)


and yet another question for anyone that's familiar with this, how do
I make the scroll wheel on the mouse change the virtual desktop? I've
tried the following command, but to no avail (it's not the buttons of
the mouse, xev sees them just fine)

enlightenment_remote -binding-mouse-add ZONE 4 NONE 0 desk_flip_by -1 0

On 7/30/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:22:13 + Виктор Кожухаров [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
  On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 15:14 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
   On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:38:12 + Виктор Кожухаров [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   babbled:
  
here's a patch for bg.po for e17.
   
also, since i'm using e17 at work, i've come across a few bugs.
   
1. Sometimes, when a program exits, the border still stays, and refuses
to die. If you kill it, switch desktops then go back, it appears again.
The only way out is a restart.
  
   i think i resolved that last night. do you use the start module (start
   button) and its menu? if so - stop using it until you get an update.
  
2. On some occasions, changing theme, restarting E, or just exiting E
causes a segfault (with the fancy e16/e17 segfault catcher). Also,
exiting E just causes E to exit, the X session is not stopped.
  
   hmmm it does for me. how do you run e - si it the last thing in your
   session?
  
3. Sometimes, quite frequently, windows with input fields get constant
focus changes. (Firefox comes to mind, it also happens in a gtk2 app i
wrote). By constant focus change, i mean that with every keystroke, the
app loses focus, then immediately gains it back (the border can be seen
doing its focus gain animation). Due to this, some keystrokes get lost
in all the confusion (like typing enlightenment.org, the final result
being something like enlignmet.og)
  
   if your mouse pointer JUSt under the input field - and does the input 
   field
   normall pop up a completion list in a window under the entry? move the
   pointer so its on the entry or above to see. is this the entry thaat 
   causes
   the problem?
  
well, that's it.
btw, is there currently any work on a tray module?
  
   none atm.
  
 
  3. for this one, i checked it. it's not because of the mouse position.
  the cursor can even be on top of the tabs, and this still happens.
 
 thats weird. is this ANY entry widget? or only certain ones?
 
  and another anomaly:
  4. when going through the window list with alt+tab, the list is
  persistant, meaning, that it does not dissapear after the alt+tab combo
  is released. i don't know if this is a bug or a feature.
 
 what is the keysym of your alt key? (that you use with alt-tab) (use xev to 
 find
 out - just press it in xev's widnwo and look at the stdout of key press 
 events)
 winlist waits on the modifier key up - and what key the modifier is is based 
 on
 a small set of assumptions in e_winlist.c (in _e_winlist_cb_key_up()).
 
  and a question: why is the config discarded whenever e is compiled and
  installed again? with every recompile, all the settings have to be done
  all over again.
 
 it isn't. it's only discarded IF we changed config compatibility versions. we 
 do
 this regularly during e17 development. it is only necessary during 
 development -
 as a new config item was added and e RELIES on its config value. thus if it
 doesnt exist in your personal config all sorts of weird shit may happen, so to
 avoid this e simply throws out your old config and gives you a new default. 
 this
 is NECESSARY during development. once e17 is out this will not happen. each 
 new
 e17 release will upgrade its config from the old, if needed, without loss.
 
 
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[e-users] Copy Paste

2005-08-01 Thread Mario D_ring
Hello :)

is is copy  paste the task of a window manager?

Cause it seems, that I have more problems use it with e17 than with
e16. Especially using it across rdesktops.

Regards,
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[e-users] how do I disable dual display support?

2005-08-01 Thread arne
hi,

I have set up my xorg to start two screens (:0.0 and :0.1), non
xinerama. When I start enlightenment, it spawns on each of that
displays. The second screen is my TV and I don't want enlightenment to
start on it, I don't need a windowmanager there. Since it's a single
process, I can't kill it on the second screen.
How do I disable that dual display support?

arne



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Re: [e-users] Copy Paste

2005-08-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:14:44 +0200 Mario D_ring [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hello :)
 
 is is copy  paste the task of a window manager?
 
 Cause it seems, that I have more problems use it with e17 than with
 e16. Especially using it across rdesktops.

copy  paste is not handles by the wm at all - it is entirely between the 2
application programs (and x). the wm isn't involved in any way or form with copy
 paste.

 Regards,
 Mario.
 
 
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[e-users] Re: Update - Dual display w/e17 question and other problem

2005-08-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:33 -0400 Robert May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Mr. Haitzler,
 
 I just cvs'd and recompiled everything.  Now I am segfaulting twice on
 log-in and every couple of minutes continuously!  Ohh n!  I deleted
 all of my .cfg's and now it is it working perfectly (no segfault's).
 Menu's now appear where they should on each display. THANKS!
 
 Earlier I mentioned (Weird focus Bug?) that when I use autoraise the
 windows would cycle one after the other if the mouse is left over all
 three.  MultipleWindows.png represents how I have the applications
 layered(?).  Naturally it does not matter which applications are in use
 only the fact that one is over the other. Every so many seconds (~ the
 auto-raise time) the windows cycle either bringing Eterm or Evolution's
 main windows or the email I am typing to the top.  However I am still
 able to continue typing because the original window I was using kept
 it's focus I just can't see what I am doing because the other windows
 are being brought to the top.

ok - NOW it's fixed in cvs (give cvs at least a few hours or a day to catch up
to devel cvs) :)


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Re: [e-users] Funny bug with iconbar?

2005-08-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:01:52 +0200 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hey ho,
 
 A very happy user of the All New Enlightenment, I noticed some odd
 things going on with the iconbar.
 
 I'm using the Debian repository at gefechtsdienst.de. Yesterday, I
 started rearranging iconbar and favorite .orders, installing another
 theme than the default while I was at it.
 
 Now most launchers work fine from the favorites menu, i.e. I haven't
 noticed the phenomenon there, but starting applications from the iconbar
 often results in funny error messages. The gedit icon, for example, half
 of the time yields an error saying Enlightenment was unable to run the
 program:The command was not found. The program it ought to be
 trying to run, is just an empty string, it seems. Without changing
 anything though, every once in a few clicks, it suddenly mentions a
 program execution line such as images/10 or a certain font name or
 whatever.
 
 At first, I had it with the other icons too, but the problem has
 persisted only with this specific application; in some way, for other
 icons, it just disappeared without me doing anything at all. I made
 sure to -set-exe of gedit.eap several times, but it doesn't change a
 bit.
 
 I wonder, to conclude this all too verbose mail, about two things:
 
 * Why on earth can I start the program just fine from the favorites
   menu, and not from the iconbar, seeing they both use the same eap?
 * Where on earth does it get an empty string or other gibberish as
   an -exe line?

never seen it before. if you want to report bugs - could you please move to
using cvs and compile yourself. basically there are multiple packages of various
type and of very different ages. the bug should be fixed by now  and could just
have been some transient bug in cvs at the time packages were made. can you get
e + efl (ecore, edje, embryom ,evas, eet, etc.) installed from source from cvs
then we can begin some good dialog :)

 Has anyone seen this before?
 
 Cheers,
 Tom
 
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Re: [e-users] how do I disable dual display support?

2005-08-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:31:58 +0200 arne [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 hi,
 
 I have set up my xorg to start two screens (:0.0 and :0.1), non
 xinerama. When I start enlightenment, it spawns on each of that
 displays. The second screen is my TV and I don't want enlightenment to
 start on it, I don't need a windowmanager there. Since it's a single
 process, I can't kill it on the second screen.
 How do I disable that dual display support?

is this e17 or e16? in e17 there is (currently) no way to turn that off. :(


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[e-users] making EAP that needs root privileges

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Torrefranca
sorry i am new to E and I am making eaps.  as the subjects suggests how 
do we make eaps (am using E17) for apps that requires root login or sudo 
e.g. firestarter, network-admin etc.


thanks

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Re: [e-users] Funny bug with iconbar?

2005-08-01 Thread Tom
[01/08/2005 -- 15:22u] Carsten Haitzler:

weird acting iconbar

  I wonder, to conclude this all too verbose mail, about two things:
  
  * Why on earth can I start the program just fine from the favorites
menu, and not from the iconbar, seeing they both use the same eap?
  * Where on earth does it get an empty string or other gibberish as
an -exe line?
 
 never seen it before. if you want to report bugs - could you please move to
 using cvs and compile yourself. basically there are multiple packages of 
 various
 type and of very different ages. the bug should be fixed by now  and could 
 just
 have been some transient bug in cvs at the time packages were made. can you 
 get
 e + efl (ecore, edje, embryom ,evas, eet, etc.) installed from source from cvs
 then we can begin some good dialog :)

Maybe I should... Then again, I only recently switched from CVS to the
(nice and frequently updated) package repository I mentioned...

Since I've been causing too much unneeded fuzz on this list anyway (a
restart of E17 already seems to have solved the problem): is there an
easier way to update sources and rebuild the whole than to uninstall
everything, update sources and, ehm, rebuild the whole? :-)

Cheers,
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RE: [e-users] making EAP that needs root privileges

2005-08-01 Thread Jason Smith
Steve,
Go to www.get-e.org and click the Users Guide on the left hand side.

This has great steps on creating and editing .eap's

Jason


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Subject: [e-users] making EAP that needs root privileges

sorry i am new to E and I am making eaps.  as the subjects suggests how 
do we make eaps (am using E17) for apps that requires root login or sudo

e.g. firestarter, network-admin etc.

thanks

steve 

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Re: [e-users] Change Eterm window Class in the source

2005-08-01 Thread Ron Lau

The reason it didn't work before is that the eterm.eap had no entry in
the Window name field, and was hooking its icon with any window that had
a window class of Eterm.  No combinations of window title, name or class
would alter this behavior.


Now my eterm.eap has window name = eterm, and window class = Eterm, and
only Eterms with no window name or a window name of eterm inherits the
eterm.eap icon, and all my other Eterms have the icon defined in their
respective eap files, which all have window class = Eterm and window
name = the server name.


R.




On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:14 -0500, Andrew Elcock wrote:
 why not set the window title in the icon too, so then it matches on both 
 - then everyone will be happy
 
 Ron Lau wrote:
   Forwarded Message 
  
 From: Ron Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [e-users] Change Eterm window Class in the source
 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:29:02 -0500
 
 ummm that won't get me different icons for different Eterms in E17.
 
 I was going to try to make different execuables with different window
 classes so that I get different icons
 
 R.
 
 
 
 On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 11:16 -0500, Michael Jennings wrote:
 
 On Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 09:32:47 (-0500),
 Ron Lau wrote:
 
 
 Is there something in the source that I can edit so that Eterm has a
 different Window Class?
 
 Change the name, title, and/or icon title, not the class.
 
 Michael
 
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Re: [e-users] making EAP that needs root privileges

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Torrefranca



Go to www.get-e.org and click the Users Guide on the left hand side.

This has great steps on creating and editing .eap's


 

hmmm nothing there on eaps for sudoers or root.  i have made quite a 
number of eaps already but how does an eap prompt a user to enter root 
password?  some apps like firestarter or synaptic needs root privileges 
for you to run them.  or how about halt and reboot?


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Re: [e-users] making EAP that needs root privileges

2005-08-01 Thread Andrew Elcock

set exec to gnome-sudo sudoed app

A

Steve Torrefranca wrote:



Go to www.get-e.org and click the Users Guide on the left hand side.

This has great steps on creating and editing .eap's


 

hmmm nothing there on eaps for sudoers or root.  i have made quite a 
number of eaps already but how does an eap prompt a user to enter root 
password?  some apps like firestarter or synaptic needs root privileges 
for you to run them.  or how about halt and reboot?


thanks

steve






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Re: [e-users] making EAP that needs root privileges

2005-08-01 Thread Antonio Palladini
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:35:55 +0800 Steve Torrefranca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  


 hmmm nothing there on eaps for sudoers or root.  i have made quite a 
 number of eaps already but how does an eap prompt a user to enter root

 password?  some apps like firestarter or synaptic needs rootprivileges

 for you to run them.  or how about halt and reboot?

I use as Executable gksu gcvs for example and this works.
Should also work with sudo and su (not testet).
 
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Re: [e-users] making EAP that needs root privileges

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Torrefranca

Andrew Elcock wrote:


set exec to gnome-sudo sudoed app


thanks dude!


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Re: [e-users] Funny bug with iconbar?

2005-08-01 Thread Dènis Riedijk
cvs update
for every app/lib
./autogen.sh
make
sudo make install (if the make compiled anything)

no uninstalling required...

At least that is what I do :P
grtz,
Dènis

On 8/1/05, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [01/08/2005 -- 15:22u] Carsten Haitzler:
 
 weird acting iconbar
 
   I wonder, to conclude this all too verbose mail, about two things:
  
   * Why on earth can I start the program just fine from the favorites
 menu, and not from the iconbar, seeing they both use the same eap?
   * Where on earth does it get an empty string or other gibberish as
 an -exe line?
 
  never seen it before. if you want to report bugs - could you please move to
  using cvs and compile yourself. basically there are multiple packages of 
  various
  type and of very different ages. the bug should be fixed by now  and could 
  just
  have been some transient bug in cvs at the time packages were made. can you 
  get
  e + efl (ecore, edje, embryom ,evas, eet, etc.) installed from source from 
  cvs
  then we can begin some good dialog :)
 
 Maybe I should... Then again, I only recently switched from CVS to the
 (nice and frequently updated) package repository I mentioned...
 
 Since I've been causing too much unneeded fuzz on this list anyway (a
 restart of E17 already seems to have solved the problem): is there an
 easier way to update sources and rebuild the whole than to uninstall
 everything, update sources and, ehm, rebuild the whole? :-)
 
 Cheers,
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[e-users] New DesktopName module

2005-08-01 Thread Omry Yadan

Nice one.

Suggestions:

1. Add the ability to set a name to a desktop.

2. In the popup with the name, it would be useful to actually show a map 
of the desktops, and the newly selected desktop marked on it.


(similar to the view in the Pager).

this will give the user also a sense of where he is.



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[e-users] Always on top bug

2005-08-01 Thread Omry Yadan
if window with always-on-top opens a child window, the child window 
should appear on top of the parent window, but it doesn't.




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Re: [e-users] New DesktopName module

2005-08-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 22:47:40 +0300 Omry Yadan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Nice one.
 
 Suggestions:
 
 1. Add the ability to set a name to a desktop.

that's already in the TODO :)

 2. In the popup with the name, it would be useful to actually show a map 
 of the desktops, and the newly selected desktop marked on it.

yeah - that would be good - except it also is a little redundant as desktopname
comes up WHEN u switch to that desktop and your whole screen has the desktop
layout in front of you already :)

 (similar to the view in the Pager).
 
 this will give the user also a sense of where he is.
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Always on top bug

2005-08-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:49:01 +0300 Omry Yadan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 if window with always-on-top opens a child window, the child window 
 should appear on top of the parent window, but it doesn't.

indeed this would be nice to have (if we can detect that the child window is a
child of the parent that's on top - apps don't always provide this information
and there is no way to find out unless they do)

 
 
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Re: [e-users] Question

2005-08-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 02:57:13 +0200 Christian Pedaschus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi list,
 
 just a short question: is it possible to move windows even when they're
 maximized?

no - they are considered like maximized in windows - it fills the available
screen based on the maximise policy. they are handled differently. see the TODO
list as there is a list of different KINDs of maximize - currently e implements
a few of them and u can choose the one in policy
it really needs to implement multiple at once so u cna clikc different buttons
for diffrent maximizes...

 Would be nice to move apps to another desktop without unmaxing them first.
 
 Found nothing in e_remote...?
 
 Greets, Chris
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Change Eterm window Class in the source

2005-08-01 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Mon, 2005-01-08 at 13:33 -0500, Ron Lau wrote:
 BTW, any chance of making the open apps part of the engage module an
 option so that only the launchers are shown?

Do you mean the second icon that appears in the engage module for some
applications?  If so, I find this annoying.  For example, I have a
Firefox eap configured in the engage module.  When I click it, Firefox
launches (as it should), but then a second Firefox icon appears in
engage.  Some other apps do the same thing (e.g. Evolution, Azureus,
XMMS).

Is this normal?  If so, why, and assuming it's possible, how do I stop
this behaviour?

Regards,

Ranbir
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Systems Aligned Inc.
www.systemsaligned.com



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