[e-users] Latest CVS :: 100% CPU usage while thumbing

2006-05-16 Thread B S Srinidhi
Hi,

I checked out the latest CVS (15th May) and I think the problem with
thumbing [1] has returned.

Raster explained to me [2] that the *forked* child will go away once the
thumbnails have been generated. I had not dared to use EFM after that,
but today, when I started the dEvian module and pointed it to a
directory with 30 jpegs (a few of them are more than an MB or so), the
forked child doesn't seem to end. CPU usage is a constant 100%.

I've been waiting for this child process to get over for more than an
hour now, but nothing seems to happen. On top of it, if I try to restart
E, it crashes (without the white box) and I've to then *kill* the child
process and then log back in. The next image in the thumbing queue is
then processed (I got to know this because the dEvian module gives a
status message on startup about how many images still needs to thumbed)

I attached the child process to gdb and here's the bt:

$ gdb --pid=2880
... 
Reading symbols from /lib/tls/libnss_files.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/tls/libnss_files.so.2
0xb75c8098 in __edb_shalloc_free (regionp=0xb74cc0b8, ptr=0xb74d858c) at 
edb_salloc.c:188
188 lastp = elp, elp = SH_LIST_NEXT(elp, links, __data))
(gdb) where
#0  0xb75c8098 in __edb_shalloc_free (regionp=0xb74cc0b8, ptr=0xb74d858c) at 
edb_salloc.c:188
#1  0xb75843ea in __memp_mf_close (edbmp=0x822b1f0, edbmfp=0x8229ee8) at 
mp_fopen.c:556
#2  0xb7583f71 in memp_fclose (edbmfp=0x8229ee8) at mp_fopen.c:463
#3  0xb75bd770 in __edb_close (edbp=0x822b0b0, flags=0) at edb.c:760
#4  0xb75a6d5b in __edb_nedbm_close (edbm=0x8230dc0) at edbm.c:236
#5  0xb75797fc in _e_db_close (edb=0x822fd08) at e_db.c:125
#6  0xb7579ef1 in e_db_flush () at e_db.c:354
#7  0xb7a30494 in exit () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#8  0x080eea2d in _e_thumb_generate () at e_thumb.c:561
#9  0x080eebcd in _e_thumb_cb_exe_exit (data=0x0, type=7, event=0x836f1e0) at 
e_thumb.c:607
#10 0xb7e69841 in _ecore_event_call () at ecore_events.c:431
#11 0xb7e709b8 in _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (once_only=0) at 
ecore_main.c:639
#12 0xb7e6fbe5 in ecore_main_loop_begin () at ecore_main.c:79
#13 0x080633e4 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfd6bfe4) at e_main.c:685
(gdb) n
[Switching to Thread -1215621440 (LWP 2880)]
187 elp != NULL  (void *)elp  (void *)ptr;
(gdb)
188 lastp = elp, elp = SH_LIST_NEXT(elp, links, __data))
(gdb)
187 elp != NULL  (void *)elp  (void *)ptr;
(gdb)
188 lastp = elp, elp = SH_LIST_NEXT(elp, links, __data))
(gdb)
187 elp != NULL  (void *)elp  (void *)ptr;
(gdb)  

It seems that there's some kind of looping happening over here. Right
now, I can't work on this desktop with such a high CPU usage and I don't
feel like restarting (and crashing) E *7* more times - that's the number
of images still left for thumbing :'(

Is anyone else facing the same problem? 

Srinidhi.

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.enlightenment.user/5323
[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.enlightenment.user/5324
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Re: [e-users] Latest CVS :: 100% CPU usage while thumbing

2006-05-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:38:32 +0530 B S Srinidhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi,
 
 I checked out the latest CVS (15th May) and I think the problem with
 thumbing [1] has returned.
 
 Raster explained to me [2] that the *forked* child will go away once the
 thumbnails have been generated. I had not dared to use EFM after that,
 but today, when I started the dEvian module and pointed it to a
 directory with 30 jpegs (a few of them are more than an MB or so), the
 forked child doesn't seem to end. CPU usage is a constant 100%.
 
 I've been waiting for this child process to get over for more than an
 hour now, but nothing seems to happen. On top of it, if I try to restart
 E, it crashes (without the white box) and I've to then *kill* the child
 process and then log back in. The next image in the thumbing queue is
 then processed (I got to know this because the dEvian module gives a
 status message on startup about how many images still needs to thumbed)

ok- no more atexit flush stuff for edb... :)

 I attached the child process to gdb and here's the bt:
 
 $ gdb --pid=2880
 ... 
 Reading symbols from /lib/tls/libnss_files.so.2...done.
 Loaded symbols for /lib/tls/libnss_files.so.2
 0xb75c8098 in __edb_shalloc_free (regionp=0xb74cc0b8, ptr=0xb74d858c) at
 edb_salloc.c:188 188 lastp = elp, elp = SH_LIST_NEXT(elp,
 links, __data)) (gdb) where
 #0  0xb75c8098 in __edb_shalloc_free (regionp=0xb74cc0b8, ptr=0xb74d858c) at
 #edb_salloc.c:188 1  0xb75843ea in __memp_mf_close (edbmp=0x822b1f0,
 #edbmfp=0x8229ee8) at mp_fopen.c:556 2  0xb7583f71 in memp_fclose
 #(edbmfp=0x8229ee8) at mp_fopen.c:463 3  0xb75bd770 in __edb_close
 #(edbp=0x822b0b0, flags=0) at edb.c:760 4  0xb75a6d5b in __edb_nedbm_close
 #(edbm=0x8230dc0) at edbm.c:236 5  0xb75797fc in _e_db_close (edb=0x822fd08)
 #at e_db.c:125 6  0xb7579ef1 in e_db_flush () at e_db.c:354
 #7  0xb7a30494 in exit () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
 #8  0x080eea2d in _e_thumb_generate () at e_thumb.c:561
 #9  0x080eebcd in _e_thumb_cb_exe_exit (data=0x0, type=7, event=0x836f1e0) at
 #e_thumb.c:607 10 0xb7e69841 in _ecore_event_call () at ecore_events.c:431
 #11 0xb7e709b8 in _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (once_only=0) at
 #ecore_main.c:639 12 0xb7e6fbe5 in ecore_main_loop_begin () at ecore_main.c:79
 #13 0x080633e4 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfd6bfe4) at e_main.c:685
 (gdb) n
 [Switching to Thread -1215621440 (LWP 2880)]
 187 elp != NULL  (void *)elp  (void *)ptr;
 (gdb)
 188 lastp = elp, elp = SH_LIST_NEXT(elp, links, __data))
 (gdb)
 187 elp != NULL  (void *)elp  (void *)ptr;
 (gdb)
 188 lastp = elp, elp = SH_LIST_NEXT(elp, links, __data))
 (gdb)
 187 elp != NULL  (void *)elp  (void *)ptr;
 (gdb)  
 
 It seems that there's some kind of looping happening over here. Right
 now, I can't work on this desktop with such a high CPU usage and I don't
 feel like restarting (and crashing) E *7* more times - that's the number
 of images still left for thumbing :'(
 
 Is anyone else facing the same problem? 
 
 Srinidhi.
 
 [1]
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.enlightenment.user/5323
 [2]
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.enlightenment.user/5324
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[e-users] Again with the mail problems...

2006-05-16 Thread Morten Nilsen
I was recieving emails from the list, but then suddenly, it stopped..
I know this because I see emails in the archive that were sent after I recieved 
the last one in my maildir..

I unsubscribed and sent a new subscription request (using this mutt), I 
recieved a confirmation email, to which I replied (using this mutt) .. and 
that's the last thing to take place.

I have recieved no welcome message (I did recieve a goodbye when I unsubbed) 
and either nothing is being said, or I'm not recieving emails (given the day 
and time, probably the former)
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Re: [e-users] bugreport: e17 now with integrated popup blocking!

2006-05-16 Thread J. Erik Heinz
Jochen Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] words
on 11.05.2006 - 10:09 (+1200 Zulu-Time):

 J. Erik Heinz wrote:
[ big fat browser ]
 Web is nice but you dont need it for everything... That's why I
 search whole the time a good contanct/todomanager for the shell. At
 the moment I try my best with ruby and shell ;)
 
 have a look at remind. It's really versatile and scriptable. Does only
 todos and reminders though, no contacts.
looks nice. Have to try it. 
 

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[e-users] E17-FC5: disable Gnome Settings Daemon

2006-05-16 Thread OO Guru

Hi,

Sorry maybe this is a boundary topic (i.e. a topic not properly suited for 
this mailing-list but ... please help me!! :) )


My system is Fedora Core 5 (FC5) with E17 installed from RPM (download from 
Didier repository - http://sps.nus.edu.sg/~didierbe/). I Usually use E17 as 
a standalone wm (i.e. without any gnome/kde/... support); to do this I 
remove from
file ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order the line 
gnome-settings-daemon.eap.


Yesterday I've yum-updated E17 rpms (version: 
enlightenment-0.16.999.026-1.20060514cvs) and, after starting E17:
*  all my eap icons (~/.e/e/applications/all) has been replaced by the icons 
stored inside the file 
/usr/share/enlightenment/data/other/applications.tar.gz


* when I start E17, gnome support (gnome-settings-daemon) is automatically 
enabled; even if I remove the file ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order (or 
delete its content), when E17 is restarted that file is automatically 
recreated.


(Furthermore, it's seem everytime I restart E17 the ~/.e directory is 
recreated too!!)


So I don't wanna gnome support any more (too memory!!!) and want to keep my 
custom eap icons.
(note: with updates came before the last one - 026-1.20060514cvs - I usually 
removed the startup/.order file and delete the cache file).


Any idea?

Thanx in advance for any advice

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Re: [e-users] Latest CVS :: 100% CPU usage while thumbing

2006-05-16 Thread B S Srinidhi
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 20:15 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 ok- no more atexit flush stuff for edb... :)
 

Raster, thanks a lot for the fix. :D Now the 28 images get thumbnailed
in less than 10 seconds. :D

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Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

Martin Hauser wrote:

Sadly, though, the WM is rendered unuseable for me, cause of an
annoying bug. If i happen to switch windows, or do something else
related to e, it freezes for about 5 or 10 seconds. I can use the
programm e focused at the time, but as a person who switches desktops
regularily... this is annoying.


I see that too ... when /home is full.
To fix it, I delete some rubbish -- and it gets better at once :)

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[e-users] e17 CVS - euphoria

2006-05-16 Thread Laurence Vanek
Decided to give euphoria a try again.  Its been awhile.  After getting 
Ruby-EFL from Tilman's site rake install of euphoria proceeds without 
incident.


Attempting to run euphoria gives:

===

/usr/local/bin/euphoria:5:in `require': no such file to load -- ecore 
(LoadError)

   from /usr/local/bin/euphoria:5

===

euphoria is indeed in /usr/local/bin with 755 priv's.


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Re: [e-users] Again with the mail problems...

2006-05-16 Thread Yasufumi Haga
On Sun, 14 May 2006 23:55:43 +0200,
   Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| I was recieving emails from the list, but then suddenly, it stopped..
| I know this because I see emails in the archive that were sent after I 
recieved the last one in my maildir..
|
| I unsubscribed and sent a new subscription request (using this mutt), I 
recieved a confirmation email, to which I replied (using this mutt) .. and 
that's the last thing to take place.
|
| I have recieved no welcome message (I did recieve a goodbye when I unsubbed) 
and either nothing is being said, or I'm not recieving emails (given the day 
and time, probably the former)

I have the same symtom for subscribing the E-intl list.
I re-subscribed the list using the web interface of the list,
and replied to a confirmation mail. But I have not received
the welcome message from the list yet.

In addition, before unsubscribing the list, I sent two mails
to the list yesterday night, and one of them was delivered to
me just now. It takes a whole day to deliver the mail.


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Addition to Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Hauser
Hi All,

i had this weird thing again... and i have a suspection now... it seems
that software suspend 2 when resuming, sort of breaks something in the
Xserver or in E17 and renders stuff unuseable. After a reboot of the
system everything seems to be normal again. I assume that a restart of
the X-server would fix it, or maybe a restart of E, but have not tried
that yet. 

I'm using Xorg 7.0.0 from debian unstable.

anyone having any idea?

Thanks in advance and regards

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Re: [e-users] Call for conferences for the RMLL

2006-05-16 Thread ilLogict
Le Sat, 13 May 2006 10:56:25 +0900, dans son message intitulé Re:
[e-users] Call for conferences for the RMLL, Carsten Haitzler (The
Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] a eu le courage de nous raconter :

 
 ca serait une tres bonne ideee! :)

 Hello!

 I talked to someone here (member of the RMLL organization team) about
an Enlightenment presentation and he was really interested about it;
maybe Florent could we do something together ?
 It would be really interesting ;D

 Cheers!

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Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

On Sun, 14 May 2006 14:21:00 +0200 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:


Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

If i happen to switch windows, or do something else
related to e, it freezes for about 5 or 10 seconds. I can use the
programm e focused at the time, but as a person who switches desktops
regularily... this is annoying.

i have never seen any such thing.
you could try filling your /home partition with a garbage file, and you 
should experience the very same thing.. I have, several times (in my 
case, torrents filling the disk).


you mean filling as in filling so there is no more space to write?


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Re: [e-users] Call for conferences for the RMLL

2006-05-16 Thread Florent Thiery



 I talked to someone here (member of the RMLL organization team) about
an Enlightenment presentation and he was really interested about it;
maybe Florent could we do something together ?
  


Yup, i think i'm gonna go. But do you intend to do a user or developer 
conf? We need a dev one too :)



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Re: [e-users] WOW ! Absolutely beautifull

2006-05-16 Thread Danny
Hi list,

  Just a few quick questions please:
  1: In DR16 my backgrounds were in ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds/*. Should I 
  now
  put it in ~/.e/e/backgrounds?
  
 
 No. E17 uses .edj files for setting the backgrounds. What I would
 suggest is that you copy all your backgrounds from
 ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds/* to a directory, say, in /tmp/foo. Then
 you could fire up the Configuration Panel and then select
 Background. In the new window, click on Select Another Image and
 then select individual files from /tmp/foo/.

When I go to the Configuration Panel-Background Settings, I can only select
Advanced Settings and nothing else. In Advanced Settings, the left pane is
empty, and I can only select on Basic Settings. Nothing happens if I click
anywhere else on the Background Settings window.

  2: Where do I change my keyboard shortcuts in DR17?
  
 
 Configuration Panel - Key Bindings

I do not have a Key Bindings option in my Configuration Panel.

I have enlightenment-0.16.999.023 snapshot.

Thank You

Danny

ps: Is there no way I can manually configure the shortcut keys?


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[e-users] Newbie

2006-05-16 Thread Bob Schmidt
Hi All,

I am new to enlightenment, but have been using linux for a while. Is it
possible to put shortcuts to programs on the desktop in e17?

Thanks,
Bob



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Re: [e-users] Again with the mail problems...

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 23:05:18 (+0900),
Yasufumi Haga wrote:

 I have the same symtom for subscribing the E-intl list.  I
 re-subscribed the list using the web interface of the list, and
 replied to a confirmation mail. But I have not received the welcome
 message from the list yet.
 
 In addition, before unsubscribing the list, I sent two mails to the
 list yesterday night, and one of them was delivered to me just
 now. It takes a whole day to deliver the mail.

Sooner or later, one of two things will happen:  Either SF will get
its shit together and catch up, or enough users and developers will
get sufficiently pissed off by it that we'll move the mailing lists
just like we did the CVS stuff.  The Foundation would be more than
happy to provide that service as well.

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Re: [e-users] Newbie

2006-05-16 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:37:33 -0500
Bob Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I am new to enlightenment, but have been using linux for a while. Is
 it possible to put shortcuts to programs on the desktop in e17?
 
 Thanks,
 Bob
 

in short words: no.

(that would btw look like win98 then.. eeewwwl :P)
Tom


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Re: [e-users] WOW ! Absolutely beautifull

2006-05-16 Thread Sevcsik András
You should update. I have .026. I wrote a small program, to make update
easier... http://users.atw.hu/sevcsik/index.php?page=e17-updater

Sevcsik

On Tue, 16 May 2006 19:15:49 +0200
Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi list,
 
   Just a few quick questions please:
   1: In DR16 my backgrounds were in ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds/*.
   Should I now put it in ~/.e/e/backgrounds?
   
  
  No. E17 uses .edj files for setting the backgrounds. What I would
  suggest is that you copy all your backgrounds from
  ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds/* to a directory, say, in /tmp/foo.
  Then you could fire up the Configuration Panel and then select
  Background. In the new window, click on Select Another Image and
  then select individual files from /tmp/foo/.
 
 When I go to the Configuration Panel-Background Settings, I can
 only select Advanced Settings and nothing else. In Advanced
 Settings, the left pane is empty, and I can only select on Basic
 Settings. Nothing happens if I click anywhere else on the
 Background Settings window.
 
   2: Where do I change my keyboard shortcuts in DR17?
   
  
  Configuration Panel - Key Bindings
 
 I do not have a Key Bindings option in my Configuration Panel.
 
 I have enlightenment-0.16.999.023 snapshot.
 
 Thank You
 
 Danny
 
 ps: Is there no way I can manually configure the shortcut keys?
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Changes in Ibar?

2006-05-16 Thread Morten Nilsen
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 09:42:21PM -0400, Gorman, Mitch wrote:
 Thanks!
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  ?? [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:31 PM
 To: Gorman, Mitch
 Cc: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [e-users] Changes in Ibar?

man, your email makes my system hang each time I try to read it with mozilla...
(good thing I have mutt on my server)

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Re: [e-users] Call for conferences for the RMLL

2006-05-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 18:23 +0200, Florent Thiery a écrit :
   I talked to someone here (member of the RMLL organization team) about
  an Enlightenment presentation and he was really interested about it;
  maybe Florent could we do something together ?

 
 Yup, i think i'm gonna go. But do you intend to do a user or developer 
 conf? We need a dev one too :)

Just for the reference : a user talk/presentation and a dev talk look
like a good program (to me) for enlightenment at the RMLL :-)

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Re: [e-users] Call for conferences for the RMLL

2006-05-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 11 mai 2006 à 20:46 +0200, Florent Thiery a écrit :
 
  They can be technical (for developers) or
  non-technical (for users). 
 I could do it ... for the users part :) En français ou en anglais... But 
 i don't think i could last 40 minutes. I guess the best would be a full 
 live presentation.

This would be great: having some talks for users is definitely a good
thing. If you're okay and confirm, I'll add you to the schedule.

Thanks!

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Solved: Re: Addition to Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Hauser
Hey all,

in case someone wants to know... it has NOTHING to do with the Xserver
or anything E related, at least not directly. My thinkpad has a faulty
battery i forget to put out from time to time. Well, recently i noticed
that the battery is that much damaged that the os acpi can't read the
charge anymore... and it hangs guess what's the problem then? E's
battery module. I removed the faulty battery and E responded at once.
Just in case anyone want's to deal with this rare case, you now know.

thanks for all your help

regards

Martin




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Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 14 May 2006 14:21:00 +0200 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  If i happen to switch windows, or do something else
  related to e, it freezes for about 5 or 10 seconds. I can use the
  programm e focused at the time, but as a person who switches desktops
  regularily... this is annoying.
  
  i have never seen any such thing.
 
 you could try filling your /home partition with a garbage file, and you 
 should experience the very same thing.. I have, several times (in my 
 case, torrents filling the disk).

you mean nuke disk cache ? (there's better ways to do that) :)

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Re: [e-users] Again with the mail problems...

2006-05-16 Thread Yasufumi Haga
On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:44:45 -0400,
   Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| On Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 23:05:18 (+0900),
| Yasufumi Haga wrote:
|
|  I have the same symtom for subscribing the E-intl list.  I
|  re-subscribed the list using the web interface of the list, and
|  replied to a confirmation mail. But I have not received the welcome
|  message from the list yet.
| 
|  In addition, before unsubscribing the list, I sent two mails to the
|  list yesterday night, and one of them was delivered to me just
|  now. It takes a whole day to deliver the mail.
|
| Sooner or later, one of two things will happen:  Either SF will get
| its shit together and catch up, or enough users and developers will
| get sufficiently pissed off by it that we'll move the mailing lists
| just like we did the CVS stuff.  The Foundation would be more than
| happy to provide that service as well.

Perhaps the latter one :)
It took three days for some other mails posted to E-intl list
to be delivered according to their mail headers.


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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment DR17 make problem

2006-05-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

danny wrote:

How can I pipe the output of make to a file so that I can include it
here?


make  make.log

it might be a good idea to only send relevant parts, the output of an 
entire make can be very big


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Re: [e-users] Again with the mail problems...

2006-05-16 Thread David Stevenson
On 15/05/06, Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was recieving emails from the list, but then suddenly, it stopped..I know this because I see emails in the archive that were sent after I recieved the last one in my maildir..I unsubscribed and sent a new subscription request (using this mutt), I recieved a confirmation email, to which I replied (using this mutt) .. and that's the last thing to take place.
I have recieved no welcome message (I did recieve a goodbye when I unsubbed) and either nothing is being said, or I'm not recieving emails (given the day and time, probably the former)--Cheers,Morten
:wqI seem to be missing mails too, and the ones that I am receiving are way late.I guess it's SF's fault.Regards!David


Re: Solved: Re: Addition to Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 16 May 2006 20:05:08 +0200 Martin Hauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hey all,
 
 in case someone wants to know... it has NOTHING to do with the Xserver
 or anything E related, at least not directly. My thinkpad has a faulty
 battery i forget to put out from time to time. Well, recently i noticed
 that the battery is that much damaged that the os acpi can't read the
 charge anymore... and it hangs guess what's the problem then? E's
 battery module. I removed the faulty battery and E responded at once.
 Just in case anyone want's to deal with this rare case, you now know.

aaah - that makes sense. i have seen similar things before when reading battery
acpi data - it can consume a LOT of cpu resources on some systems if you do it
often (every second) and that is why the default is 30 sec.

i guess this is a combo of the way e reads this data and the kernel (in that
the kernel actually does a slow hw query every time).

 thanks for all your help
 
 regards
 
 Martin
 
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] WOW ! Absolutely beautifull

2006-05-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:53:37 +0200 Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi list,
 
 First of all, thanks to Morten Nilsen for helping me to compile DR17 properly.
 
 Well, I just fired up DR17 and I was absolutely AMAZED. This is really
 beautifull. After years of using DR16, there is at last something better.
 
 DR17 is like my wife without any make-up -RAW BEATUY-. I am sure that when the
 make-up get's applied it will be absolutely AWESOME.
 
 Guys, DR17 is a winner in every respect. I take my hat off to all the
 developers on the e-project. Let's just hope that OTHER company doesn't steal
 too many of DR17's features and ideas for their upcoming release of that OTHER
 operating system.

:)

 Just a few quick questions please:
 1: In DR16 my backgrounds were in ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds/*. Should I now
 put it in ~/.e/e/backgrounds?

you need to turn them into .edj files (the reason is a .edj file can contain
image data AND how to present it (do you scale, tile, center it, do you put a
watermark logo/overlay, do you retain aspect etc. etc.). this saves e having to
remember a myriad of these other properties of your desktop background
separately from the bg - you simply encode them together in 1 block that can be
given to anyone else to instantly have that info. in addition you get the
ability to animate the bg, have it react to mouse events etc. etc.

http://www.rasterman.com/files/e_bggen.sh

is a quick example of how to make a .edj bg by hand with a script that accepts
options. there is also the bg settings dialog where u can select another
image and e will generate and save a .edjj for you from the source png/jpg etc.

 2: Where do I change my keyboard shortcuts in DR17?

key bindings config dialog.

 3: How can I make everyone in the world use DR17? :)

aardvarks. :)

 This mail is keeping me from exploring DR17. Till next time...
 
 Thank You
 
 Danny
 
 
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Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:32:54 +0200 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Morten Nilsen wrote:
  Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  you could try filling your /home partition with a garbage file, and you 
  should experience the very same thing.. I have, several times (in my 
  case, torrents filling the disk).
  you mean nuke disk cache ? (there's better ways to do that) :)
  
  I may mean that, but I'm not an expert on this matter
 
 I had a revelation; You probably meant e's disk cache files, not the O/S 
 disk cache ram (which is the default meaning of disk cache in my head)

no :) i meant the kernel's (evas's cache i would call either image or font
cache as there are 2)

 if that is what you meant, that may well be the cause..
 I do however find it slightly peculiar that running out of disk space in 
 /home should have such a detrimental effect on wm performance..

i find it totally bizarre actually. e does regularly write small config files -
BUT if there is an error writing it largely ignores it. (i should have it
check and pop up a dialog on write errs btw - these are definitely one of
the many small things we still need to do in e17 to polish it nicely).

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Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

Morten Nilsen wrote:

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
you could try filling your /home partition with a garbage file, and you 
should experience the very same thing.. I have, several times (in my 
case, torrents filling the disk).

you mean nuke disk cache ? (there's better ways to do that) :)


I may mean that, but I'm not an expert on this matter


I had a revelation; You probably meant e's disk cache files, not the O/S 
disk cache ram (which is the default meaning of disk cache in my head)


if that is what you meant, that may well be the cause..
I do however find it slightly peculiar that running out of disk space in 
/home should have such a detrimental effect on wm performance..


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