[e-users] Windows rendering between two virtual desktop

2006-06-16 Thread jean-marie . verdun
Hi,

I am using the current e17 CVS. This is a great work and I am trying to 
setup a desktop based on it. I have a question regarding the way e is 
rendering the windows when they are fitting between 2 screens. At the 
present time, the window is rendered on the screen where it does occupy 
the biggest space. ( as exemple take a window and move it at the right 
edge of your desktop 0,0, nothing is displayed on desktop 1,0 ). Is there 
a way to make it rendered on both screen, like a global virtual display ?

I am not sure this is a Window manager functionality or an X stuff. I am 
using Xinerama extension and X11R7.1

Jean-Marie


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Re: [e-users] Windows rendering between two virtual desktop

2006-06-16 Thread Andrew Williams
Not that I know of - I think this was a design decision. I know others
that feel the same way - this is, afterall, what e16 users are used
to...

comments anyone?

On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 08:09:58AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Andy,
 
 I mean across virtual desktops, not multiple monitors. I am using 
 Xinerama. After a quick look in the source tree, it seems that E is 
 managing the 4 virtual desktop as 4 independant screens, I had expected to 
 have a topology where some windows could be rendered on two desktop at the 
 same time, when they are present on edges. Any ideas, or workaround on thi 
 ?
 
 Jm
 
 On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Andrew Williams wrote:
 
 Do you mean across multiple monitors or across multiple virtual
 desktops?
 
 It should just work on the screens, as long as you have Xinerama
 turned on. However, for desktops the window only ever shows on one, not
 determined by what shows the larger portion, but simply by which it is
 attatched to.
 
 A
 
 On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 07:07:11AM -0400, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am using the current e17 CVS. This is a great work and I am trying to
 setup a desktop based on it. I have a question regarding the way e is
 rendering the windows when they are fitting between 2 screens. At the
 present time, the window is rendered on the screen where it does occupy
 the biggest space. ( as exemple take a window and move it at the right
 edge of your desktop 0,0, nothing is displayed on desktop 1,0 ). Is there
 a way to make it rendered on both screen, like a global virtual display ?
 
 I am not sure this is a Window manager functionality or an X stuff. I am
 using Xinerama extension and X11R7.1
 
 Jean-Marie
 
 
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[e-users] A few questions regarding window configuration with e17

2006-06-16 Thread jean-marie . verdun
Hi,

I have a few quick questions relatives to window.

- How can a user reactivate border to window for which he desactivated it 
?

- How can a user save a window configuration while the border is 
deactivated ?

- Where are stored the window configuration stuff ? Is this into the .e 
directory into the home user directory or anywhere else.

- It seems that the NOSPLASH environment variable is no longer present, is 
there a way to avoid the splash screen during the FIRST startup ?

Many thanks for your help !

Jean-Marie


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Re: [e-users] A few questions regarding window configuration with e17

2006-06-16 Thread Виктор Кожухаров
В пт, 2006-06-16 в 08:37 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
написа:
 Hi,
 
 I have a few quick questions relatives to window.
 
 - How can a user reactivate border to window for which he desactivated it 
 ?
 

Either hold alt and hit the right mouse button, or bind a hotkey to
toggle the border.

 - How can a user save a window configuration while the border is 
 deactivated ?

see above

 
 - Where are stored the window configuration stuff ? Is this into the .e 
 directory into the home user directory or anywhere else.

~/.e/e/config/

 
 - It seems that the NOSPLASH environment variable is no longer present, is 
 there a way to avoid the splash screen during the FIRST startup ?

Configuration Panel - Startup 

 
 Many thanks for your help !
 
 Jean-Marie
 
 
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[e-users] is the water safe?

2006-06-16 Thread Geoffrey
Was wondering if others have updated E17 and found the 'closing a window 
kills E17' problem has gone away?

I was hoping to hit cvs again, but wanted to see if this item had been 
addressed.

Thanks.

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[e-users] antialiased fonts

2006-06-16 Thread Marc Ravensbergen
Hi. I tried E17 a while back and was very happy with it. The only major showstopper was that I couldn't turn the anti-aliasing _off_. (why anybody would want to make the text look more blurry is beyond me, but each to their own I guess :) Doesn't matter whether it comes from OS X, Windows (clear type), or various linux window managers, it all gets turned off) Gnome and KDE by default ship with it on, but my eyes go nuts after 5 mins so I have to turn it off. Is there any way yet I can do this in E? I am comfortable editing source code if that's what I have to do.
The other thing I was wondering is whether the dock now allows one to click on the icon and bring the currently open application to the foreground (OS X behaviour) instead of launching a second instance.
Thanks for your time.
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Re: [e-users] Windows rendering between two virtual desktop

2006-06-16 Thread Stan Lewis




Hey guys, I'm new to the list but really have been enjoying e17 on both my work laptop and my desktop at home, this is really some fantastic stuff.

Personally I really like having 2 independent sets of virtual desktops, on on each monitor. It's really nice for audio stuff, where you can keep different programs on different desktops and switch between them all with the scroll wheel. I thought it was odd at first, but now I wouldn't want to part with it...

Cheers,

Stan

On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:20 +0100, Andrew Williams wrote:


Not that I know of - I think this was a design decision. I know others
that feel the same way - this is, afterall, what e16 users are used
to...

comments anyone?

On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 08:09:58AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Andy,
 
 I mean across virtual desktops, not multiple monitors. I am using 
 Xinerama. After a quick look in the source tree, it seems that E is 
 managing the 4 virtual desktop as 4 independant screens, I had expected to 
 have a topology where some windows could be rendered on two desktop at the 
 same time, when they are present on edges. Any ideas, or workaround on thi 
 ?
 
 Jm
 
 On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Andrew Williams wrote:
 
 Do you mean across multiple monitors or across multiple virtual
 desktops?
 
 It should just work on the screens, as long as you have Xinerama
 turned on. However, for desktops the window only ever shows on one, not
 determined by what shows the larger portion, but simply by which it is
 attatched to.
 
 A
 
 On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 07:07:11AM -0400, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am using the current e17 CVS. This is a great work and I am trying to
 setup a desktop based on it. I have a question regarding the way e is
 rendering the windows when they are fitting between 2 screens. At the
 present time, the window is rendered on the screen where it does occupy
 the biggest space. ( as exemple take a window and move it at the right
 edge of your desktop 0,0, nothing is displayed on desktop 1,0 ). Is there
 a way to make it rendered on both screen, like a global virtual display ?
 
 I am not sure this is a Window manager functionality or an X stuff. I am
 using Xinerama extension and X11R7.1
 
 Jean-Marie
 
 
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Re: [e-users] is the water safe?

2006-06-16 Thread DM
Geoffrey wrote:

Was wondering if others have updated E17 and found the 'closing a window 
kills E17' problem has gone away?

I was hoping to hit cvs again, but wanted to see if this item had been 
addressed.

Thanks.

  

Hi,

yes, it's gone ;)

Thanks,
Dan


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Re: [e-users] e16.8 mouse keybindings?

2006-06-16 Thread Kim Woelders
J. Erik Heinz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 How can I configure the mousebindings in 16.8? I used e16keyedit for
 the keys, looked as well on the /home/jerik/.e16/e_config.bindings,
 but there is unfortunatly no example how I can configure a
 mousebinding. 
 
Editing of mouse bindings with e16keyedit has not been implemented.
You'll have to do something like copy /usr/share/e16/config/bindings.cfg 
to ~/.e16/bindings.cfg and edit that.

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[e-users] E16 and E17 trasparency

2006-06-16 Thread siegfried.catt
Hi at all,


I'm using E16 on my laptop with debian etch and E17 on my fix PC with ubuntu 
dapper.

I'd like to set up real trasparency on possible both two...

I've seen that on E16 is possible but i did not know how...

Is it also possible on E17?

And how can I do it with E16?

Thanks

Siegfried Cattaneo



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[e-users] Key bindings to alt+shift

2006-06-16 Thread Mirek
Language module is very cool, i have been using language switching from 
Xserver via key alt+shift, but now i am unable to set this key binding 
in E17 config panel, why user cannot use this key binding?

Mirek


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Re: [e-users] E16 and E17 trasparency

2006-06-16 Thread J. Erik Heinz
Hi,

siegfried.catt [EMAIL PROTECTED] words
on 16.06.2006 - 19:25 (+0200 Zulu-Time):

 I'd like to set up real trasparency on possible both two...
 I've seen that on E16 is possible but i did not know how...
The only way I no is with xgl, or do I make a mistake ?

Or do you mean the fake transparency - like screenshot from the
Desktop is set as background for the application ?

 Is it also possible on E17?
With xgl, it should.

 And how can I do it with E16?
And again, I think with xgl. 
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Re: [e-users] e16.8 mouse keybindings?

2006-06-16 Thread J. Erik Heinz
Hi,

Kim Woelders [EMAIL PROTECTED] words
on 16.06.2006 - 18:05 (+0200 Zulu-Time):

 J. Erik Heinz wrote:
 How can I configure the mousebindings in 16.8? I used e16keyedit for
 the keys, looked as well on the /home/jerik/.e16/e_config.bindings,
 but there is unfortunatly no example how I can configure a
 mousebinding. 
 
 Editing of mouse bindings with e16keyedit has not been implemented.
 You'll have to do something like copy /usr/share/e16/config/bindings.cfg 
aaahh.. thats the file I searched. Thanks a lot. 

 to ~/.e16/bindings.cfg and edit that.


Cheers -- Erik 

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[e-users] Shelf - No Shelf

2006-06-16 Thread Alejandro Salas
Hello everyone,

I was wondering why all the modules erased the old
interface so that the modules could be standalone.
It would be nice to be able to decide whether one
wants to gather things up in a shelf or not. 

Just a thought.


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Re: [e-users] antialiased fonts

2006-06-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:54:47 -0400 Marc Ravensbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi. I tried E17 a while back and was very happy with it. The only major
 showstopper was that I couldn't turn the anti-aliasing _off_. (why anybody
 would want to make the text look more blurry is beyond me, but each to their
 own I guess :) Doesn't matter whether it comes from OS X, Windows (clear
 type), or various linux window managers, it all gets turned off) Gnome and
 KDE by default ship with it on, but my eyes go nuts after 5 mins so I have
 to turn it off. Is there any way yet I can do this in E? I am comfortable
 editing source code if that's what I have to do.

look here:

http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-hinting-bytecode.png

what is blurry about those fonts? they are crystal clear, sharp and defined.
any rounded parts are anti-aliased by look smooth and silky. if your fonts look
like this:

http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-hinting-none.png

something is wrong with your freetype installation as it simply isn't allowing
the bytecode or autohinter to work (autohinter here:)

http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-hinting-auto.png

 
 The other thing I was wondering is whether the dock now allows one to click
 on the icon and bring the currently open application to the foreground (OS X
 behaviour) instead of launching a second instance.

you want to use the engage module for that. ibar is a launcher, not a task
switcher. :)

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Re: [e-users] E16 and E17 trasparency

2006-06-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:25:57 +0200 siegfried.catt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi at all,
 
 
 I'm using E16 on my laptop with debian etch and E17 on my fix PC with ubuntu
 dapper.
 
 I'd like to set up real trasparency on possible both two...
 
 I've seen that on E16 is possible but i did not know how...
 
 Is it also possible on E17?

just use xcompmgr and it will happen. modules are in the works for e17 doing it
itself.

 And how can I do it with E16?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [e-users] Shelf - No Shelf

2006-06-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:18:12 -0400 Gorman, Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

   Raster wrote up an explanation... you can create as many shelves
 as you want, make them invisible, and only put one module in each.  Then
 you're free to move them around singly.  The only restriction we
 *currently* have to put up with is that the modules are required to go
 somewhere along the edge of the screen... you can't put the calendar
 smack dab in the middle of the desktop, for example.  And IIRC, he also
 said that may be changing, as the underlying mechanism which drives the
 shelf is refined further.

correct. i even made the shelf config simpler with some pre-defined recipes
for the things people seem to be asking for (modules on the desktop) so they
don't need to figure out the combination  that gives them what they want
(mostly).

   Personally, I don't see this as too much of a hardship... I have
 no interest in putting any modules in the work area in the center of
 my desktop.  I don't put my pencilholder in the center of my actual
 desk... 
 
 
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 I was wondering why all the modules erased the old
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 It would be nice to be able to decide whether one
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Re: [e-users] Key bindings to alt+shift

2006-06-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:45:53 +0200 Mirek [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Language module is very cool, i have been using language switching from 
 Xserver via key alt+shift, but now i am unable to set this key binding 
 in E17 config panel, why user cannot use this key binding?

just alt and shift pressed to change language? (no other keys) ?

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Re: [e-users] e17 CVS - weather module wont enable (UPDATE)

2006-06-16 Thread Laurence Vanek
Laurence Vanek wrote:
 James Shewey wrote:
 Try re-compiling it (make sure you are a user and not root). For some 
 reason, tclock wouldn't show up for me on the first try either. Hope 
 this solves it for you.

 James -

 No joy.
 The behavior is odd.  Weather module builds ok but in modules portion 
 of configuration panel it will not stay enabled.  By that I mean that 
 if I close out of configuration panel  then re-enter, it will show 
 the module as disabled.  As info, I did blow away the 
 ~/.e/e/modules/weather directory before I built the module.

 I will do without until it gets well.  Counting the engage module 
 install issue, thats two modules toes up for me.  At this rate I 
 wont have any left soon :-)

 Thanks for advice.



Its magic or something paranormal has happened!  The weather module has 
once again appeared in the config. panel  also loads into the shelf.

All I did was e17 cvs update this date, rebuild all EFL  e in apps.  
Also blew away the contents of ~/.e/e/config before restarting e.

Just have to be patient.


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