Re: [e-users] About cvs

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 05 March 2007, at 23:26:32 (-0600),
Jesse Luehrs wrote:

> $ cvs help 2>&1 | grep ls
> ls   List files available from CVS
> rls  List files in a module

$ cvs -H ls
Unknown command: `ls'

$ cvs --version

Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.22 (client/server)

That's the latest stable version.

So no, "CVS in general" does NOT support "list."  But thanks for
playing.

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Re: [e-users] About cvs

2007-03-05 Thread Jesse Luehrs
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:36:21 -0500
Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday, 05 March 2007, at 19:11:08 (-0500),
> Ross Vandegrift wrote:
> 
> > In general, cvs has a "list" command that can list, but the CVS
> > server doesn't support it for e17.
> 
> Oh really?  And what would the syntax for this "list" command be?
> 
> Michael

$ cvs help 2>&1 | grep ls
ls   List files available from CVS
rls  List files in a module
$ cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/e ls
cvs [ls aborted]: server does not support ls
$ cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/e rls e17
cvs [rls aborted]: server does not support rls

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Re: [e-users] About cvs

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 05 March 2007, at 19:11:08 (-0500),
Ross Vandegrift wrote:

> In general, cvs has a "list" command that can list, but the CVS
> server doesn't support it for e17.

Oh really?  And what would the syntax for this "list" command be?

Michael

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Re: [e-users] About cvs

2007-03-05 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:09:07PM +0100, Massimo wrote:
> With the command:
> 'cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/e co 
> e17 misc'
> I load in my cvs directory all the necessary to build my e17 WM.
> But there is a command to see if there are other branch regarding e17 
> (apart from 'misc') ?

In general, cvs has a "list" command that can list, but the CVS server
doesn't support it for e17.  "e_modules" is another good CVS module to
checkout though - it'll give you tons of good stuff to play with!


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Re: [e-users] cvs20070303-1 UBUNTU - screen management change?

2007-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:52:38 -0500 Reid Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

> With Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "True", gdm login screen spans both
> screens also
> 
> With Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "False", gdm login screen is only
> displayed on one monitor.
> 
> In either case at this point, maximizing windows spans both monitors and
> e shelves span both monitors, rather than maximizing only into a single
> monitor/'seeing' only a single monitor.

nothing has really changed regarding how e sees xinerama - if it gets xinerama
info (i highly suggest you have it enabled) then it will treat each screen
specially. that is exactly what it does here - as long as it gets the xinerama
info. it may NOT get the info for a few reasons

1. drivers or xserver changes
2. x config optiosn changed
3. ecore_x built without xinerama xupport
4. something utterly bizarre

> reid
> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 12:48 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i xiner /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> > Option "Xinerama" "False"
> > Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "True"
> > 
> > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 10:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > Sounds like Xinemera was enabled.
> > > More an Xorg setting that E17 
> > > 
> > > Don't use Ubuntu, so not sure how you would disable, but if you want to
> > > edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file directly, you will find it in there. 
> > > 
> > > Lucas 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Reid Thompson writes: 
> > > 
> > > > Running e17 on UBUNTU 6.10, dual 19 inch monitors using NVIDIA
> > > > twinview. 
> > > > 
> > > > Prior to upgrade today to cvs20070303-1, screens were managed as what I
> > > > consider two separate screens with knowledge of each other -- i.e. 
> > > > 
> > > >   i had two shelves set for middle of screen bottom orientation, this
> > > > put one shelf in bottom middle of left monitor, and the other in bottom
> > > > middle of right monitor
> > > >   when I maximized a window, it filled only the screen that it was in, I
> > > > could stretch windows to fill both screens manually 
> > > > 
> > > > after the upgrade 
> > > > 
> > > >   It appears that e sees both monitors as one large screen.
> > > >   both shelves want to sit in the middle and span across both monitors
> > > >   maximizing a window fills both screens 
> > > > 
> > > > Can anyone point me to a setting that I might have hosed that will get
> > > > me back to my original configuration. 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > reid 
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Re: [e-users] osnews on Enlightenment 17

2007-03-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:44:50 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> On Monday, 05 March 2007, at 11:27:26 (+0100),
> muzzle wrote:
> 
> > osnews reports an article on enlightenment dr17
> > http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17423/E17-Desktop-Enlightenment
> 
> OSNews is the National Enquirer of open source news sites:  just a
> bunch of idiots running around trying to pretend like they have
> something worthwhile to say or actually have a clue what's going on.
> 
> Nobody here cares.

actually read the comments and you will see what Michael says is pretty close
to spot on for the vast majority of them. sometimes they even sound
intelligent, but demonstrate no understanding of what they are really talking
about and how it works.

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[e-users] About cvs

2007-03-05 Thread Massimo
With the command:
'cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/e co 
e17 misc'
I load in my cvs directory all the necessary to build my e17 WM.
But there is a command to see if there are other branch regarding e17 
(apart from 'misc') ?
Regards, Max

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Re: [e-users] cvs20070303-1 UBUNTU - screen management change?

2007-03-05 Thread lvs
Hi, 

Ntt sure if this will help, but seems problem you have is experienced on 
other display managers / desktops. 

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=85795 

Maybe it would help to check all your TwinView settings. 

http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html 

Hope any of this helps. 

Lucas 

Reid Thompson writes: 

> With Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "True", gdm login screen spans both
> screens also 
> 
> With Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "False", gdm login screen is only
> displayed on one monitor. 
> 
> In either case at this point, maximizing windows spans both monitors and
> e shelves span both monitors, rather than maximizing only into a single
> monitor/'seeing' only a single monitor. 
> 
> reid
> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 12:48 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i xiner /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>> Option "Xinerama" "False"
>> Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "True" 
>> 
>> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 10:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Hi, 
>> > 
>> > Sounds like Xinemera was enabled.
>> > More an Xorg setting that E17 
>> > 
>> > Don't use Ubuntu, so not sure how you would disable, but if you want to 
>> > edit 
>> > the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file directly, you will find it in there. 
>> > 
>> > Lucas 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Reid Thompson writes: 
>> > 
>> > > Running e17 on UBUNTU 6.10, dual 19 inch monitors using NVIDIA twinview. 
>> > > 
>> > > Prior to upgrade today to cvs20070303-1, screens were managed as what I
>> > > consider two separate screens with knowledge of each other -- i.e. 
>> > > 
>> > >   i had two shelves set for middle of screen bottom orientation, this
>> > > put one shelf in bottom middle of left monitor, and the other in bottom
>> > > middle of right monitor
>> > >   when I maximized a window, it filled only the screen that it was in, I
>> > > could stretch windows to fill both screens manually 
>> > > 
>> > > after the upgrade 
>> > > 
>> > >   It appears that e sees both monitors as one large screen.
>> > >   both shelves want to sit in the middle and span across both monitors
>> > >   maximizing a window fills both screens 
>> > > 
>> > > Can anyone point me to a setting that I might have hosed that will get
>> > > me back to my original configuration. 
>> > > 
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > reid 
>> > > 
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Re: [e-users] cvs20070303-1 UBUNTU - screen management change?

2007-03-05 Thread Reid Thompson
With Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "True", gdm login screen spans both
screens also

With Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "False", gdm login screen is only
displayed on one monitor.

In either case at this point, maximizing windows spans both monitors and
e shelves span both monitors, rather than maximizing only into a single
monitor/'seeing' only a single monitor.

reid
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 12:48 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i xiner /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> Option "Xinerama" "False"
> Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "True"
> 
> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 10:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > Sounds like Xinemera was enabled.
> > More an Xorg setting that E17 
> > 
> > Don't use Ubuntu, so not sure how you would disable, but if you want to 
> > edit 
> > the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file directly, you will find it in there. 
> > 
> > Lucas 
> > 
> > 
> > Reid Thompson writes: 
> > 
> > > Running e17 on UBUNTU 6.10, dual 19 inch monitors using NVIDIA twinview. 
> > > 
> > > Prior to upgrade today to cvs20070303-1, screens were managed as what I
> > > consider two separate screens with knowledge of each other -- i.e. 
> > > 
> > >   i had two shelves set for middle of screen bottom orientation, this
> > > put one shelf in bottom middle of left monitor, and the other in bottom
> > > middle of right monitor
> > >   when I maximized a window, it filled only the screen that it was in, I
> > > could stretch windows to fill both screens manually 
> > > 
> > > after the upgrade 
> > > 
> > >   It appears that e sees both monitors as one large screen.
> > >   both shelves want to sit in the middle and span across both monitors
> > >   maximizing a window fills both screens 
> > > 
> > > Can anyone point me to a setting that I might have hosed that will get
> > > me back to my original configuration. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > reid 
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[e-users] A definitive Edje introduction

2007-03-05 Thread andresblanc
I have written some articles about Edje Interface Creation in the wiki 
(http://wiki.edevelop.org/index.php/Interface_Design_Articles), among other 
things, but after some reviews I found them a little bit messy and perhaps 
not verbose enough for a new artist or programmer.

So I decided to write a new introductory article about Edje, which will be 
very verbose, with more graphics and less code snippet, more layout as a 
book.

Then trim out all non descriptive text from the current articles, and 
structure them better to serve as a reference guide for experienced artists 
and programmers.

I want to get it right this time, so I need opinions about the structure I'm 
planning for the article, 
http://wiki.edevelop.org/index.php/Category_talk:Interface_Design_Articles

opinions wanted =)


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Re: [e-users] cvs20070303-1 UBUNTU - screen management change?

2007-03-05 Thread Reid Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i xiner /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Option "Xinerama" "False"
Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "True"

On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 10:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Sounds like Xinemera was enabled.
> More an Xorg setting that E17 
> 
> Don't use Ubuntu, so not sure how you would disable, but if you want to edit 
> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file directly, you will find it in there. 
> 
> Lucas 
> 
> 
> Reid Thompson writes: 
> 
> > Running e17 on UBUNTU 6.10, dual 19 inch monitors using NVIDIA twinview. 
> > 
> > Prior to upgrade today to cvs20070303-1, screens were managed as what I
> > consider two separate screens with knowledge of each other -- i.e. 
> > 
> >   i had two shelves set for middle of screen bottom orientation, this
> > put one shelf in bottom middle of left monitor, and the other in bottom
> > middle of right monitor
> >   when I maximized a window, it filled only the screen that it was in, I
> > could stretch windows to fill both screens manually 
> > 
> > after the upgrade 
> > 
> >   It appears that e sees both monitors as one large screen.
> >   both shelves want to sit in the middle and span across both monitors
> >   maximizing a window fills both screens 
> > 
> > Can anyone point me to a setting that I might have hosed that will get
> > me back to my original configuration. 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > reid 
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Re: [e-users] cvs20070303-1 UBUNTU - screen management change?

2007-03-05 Thread lvs
Hi, 

Sounds like Xinemera was enabled.
More an Xorg setting that E17 

Don't use Ubuntu, so not sure how you would disable, but if you want to edit 
the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file directly, you will find it in there. 

Lucas 


Reid Thompson writes: 

> Running e17 on UBUNTU 6.10, dual 19 inch monitors using NVIDIA twinview. 
> 
> Prior to upgrade today to cvs20070303-1, screens were managed as what I
> consider two separate screens with knowledge of each other -- i.e. 
> 
>   i had two shelves set for middle of screen bottom orientation, this
> put one shelf in bottom middle of left monitor, and the other in bottom
> middle of right monitor
>   when I maximized a window, it filled only the screen that it was in, I
> could stretch windows to fill both screens manually 
> 
> after the upgrade 
> 
>   It appears that e sees both monitors as one large screen.
>   both shelves want to sit in the middle and span across both monitors
>   maximizing a window fills both screens 
> 
> Can anyone point me to a setting that I might have hosed that will get
> me back to my original configuration. 
> 
> Thanks,
> reid 
> 
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[e-users] cvs20070303-1 UBUNTU - screen management change?

2007-03-05 Thread Reid Thompson
Running e17 on UBUNTU 6.10, dual 19 inch monitors using NVIDIA twinview.

Prior to upgrade today to cvs20070303-1, screens were managed as what I
consider two separate screens with knowledge of each other -- i.e.

  i had two shelves set for middle of screen bottom orientation, this
put one shelf in bottom middle of left monitor, and the other in bottom
middle of right monitor
  when I maximized a window, it filled only the screen that it was in, I
could stretch windows to fill both screens manually

after the upgrade

  It appears that e sees both monitors as one large screen.
  both shelves want to sit in the middle and span across both monitors
  maximizing a window fills both screens

Can anyone point me to a setting that I might have hosed that will get
me back to my original configuration.

Thanks,
reid

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Re: [e-users] osnews on Enlightenment 17

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 05 March 2007, at 11:27:26 (+0100),
muzzle wrote:

> osnews reports an article on enlightenment dr17
> http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17423/E17-Desktop-Enlightenment

OSNews is the National Enquirer of open source news sites:  just a
bunch of idiots running around trying to pretend like they have
something worthwhile to say or actually have a clue what's going on.

Nobody here cares.

Michael

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  ladder made out of those command lines.  You figure computer code
  saved your life, and maybe it did.  But somewhere along the line
  you've got to let people back in.  Otherwise you're just numbers
  and hate."-- Mark-Paul Gosselaar, "Hyperion Bay"

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[e-users] osnews on Enlightenment 17

2007-03-05 Thread muzzle
osnews reports an article on enlightenment dr17
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17423/E17-Desktop-Enlightenment

while the article itself is nothing new, the discussion that followed
could have some interesting comments.
Bye,

Emme

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