Re: [e-users] missing .pot files break e_modules build
Hi! Confirmed with all these: - alarm (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/alarm.log) - cpu (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/cpu.log) - emu (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/emu.log) - flame (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/flame.log) - forecasts (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/forecasts.log) - language (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/language.log) - mail (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/mail.log) - mem (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/mem.log) - mixer (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/mixer.log) - moon (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/moon.log) - net (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/net.log) - rain (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/rain.log) - screenshot (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/screenshot.log) - slideshow (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/slideshow.log) - snow (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/snow.log) - taskbar (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/taskbar.log) - tclock (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/tclock.log) - uptime (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/uptime.log) - weather (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/weather.log) - wlan (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/wlan.log) Thanks, Dan Illes Pal wrote: Problem confirmed with language module! (using gentoo overlay ebuild that does a CVS checkout and build.) On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 17:16 +0100, Florian Hubold wrote: Hello all, during a recent rebuild i noticed that e_modules does not build successfully, when freshly checked out from CVS. Tried again today with a fresh checkout, but still no luck. Seems that in some modules there are missing .pot files. Touching them solves this problem. This occurs for all of the following modules: alarm, cpu, emu, flame, forecasts, language, mail, mem, mixer, moon, net At least these are the ones so far that had this error. For the protocol, an example: make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/shadow/rpm/BUILD/e_modules/net/po' /usr/bin/msgmerge --update it.po net.pot /usr/bin/msgmerge: Öffnen der Datei »net.pot« zum Lesen fehlgeschlagen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Doing a cd net/po touch net.po solves this problem. Regards Florian Hubold - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Zombie Windows, Bling Problem and Sucicidal Programs
Hi, i encountered a few Problems with the latest CVS Checkout. First i want to add me to the after enabling bling and re-login all my windows are gone people. Second, with the last few checkouts i made, i noticed, whenever i started Programs like OpenOffice, Firefox, Gaim for the first time, E segfaulted. Now this behavior is gone, but these Programs now suddenly stop working and return a strange errorcode (137 and 139 in the case of Firefox) Third thing is that whenever i close a Window and switch to another desktop and the back, the window is still there. It is also listet in the itask-ng module. This is especially annoying because whenever i restart the program the window suddenly gets closed by e and i have to switch to another desktop and back again to make it appear again. thank you for looking into it (I hope you will ;) ) Greetz from Austia Oli ___ Jetzt neu! Schützen Sie Ihren PC mit McAfee und WEB.DE. 3 Monate kostenlos testen. http://www.pc-sicherheit.web.de/startseite/?mc=00 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Zombie Windows, Bling Problem and Sucicidal Programs
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:50:31 +0100 Oliver Pahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: try disabling itask. Hi, i encountered a few Problems with the latest CVS Checkout. First i want to add me to the after enabling bling and re-login all my windows are gone people. Second, with the last few checkouts i made, i noticed, whenever i started Programs like OpenOffice, Firefox, Gaim for the first time, E segfaulted. Now this behavior is gone, but these Programs now suddenly stop working and return a strange errorcode (137 and 139 in the case of Firefox) Third thing is that whenever i close a Window and switch to another desktop and the back, the window is still there. It is also listet in the itask-ng module. This is especially annoying because whenever i restart the program the window suddenly gets closed by e and i have to switch to another desktop and back again to make it appear again. thank you for looking into it (I hope you will ;) ) Greetz from Austia Oli ___ Jetzt neu! Schützen Sie Ihren PC mit McAfee und WEB.DE. 3 Monate kostenlos testen. http://www.pc-sicherheit.web.de/startseite/?mc=00 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Zombie Windows, Bling Problem and Sucicidal Programs
Hi, i am teriblly sorry for not trying this :( I switched back to itask-ng revision 317 and it works. So the bug must have been introduced in one of the last 3 Revisions. sorry again and greetings Oli -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Oliver Pahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 15.11.07 11:50:31 An: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Zombie Windows, Bling Problem and Sucicidal Programs Hi, i encountered a few Problems with the latest CVS Checkout. First i want to add me to the after enabling bling and re-login all my windows are gone people. Second, with the last few checkouts i made, i noticed, whenever i started Programs like OpenOffice, Firefox, Gaim for the first time, E segfaulted. Now this behavior is gone, but these Programs now suddenly stop working and return a strange errorcode (137 and 139 in the case of Firefox) Third thing is that whenever i close a Window and switch to another desktop and the back, the window is still there. It is also listet in the itask-ng module. This is especially annoying because whenever i restart the program the window suddenly gets closed by e and i have to switch to another desktop and back again to make it appear again. thank you for looking into it (I hope you will ;) ) Greetz from Austia Oli _ Der WEB.DE SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! http://smartsurfer.web.de/?mc=100071distributionid=0066 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Trac? (milestone/todo list visibility)
So I set up Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e As per the news: http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/showl=ennews_id=6 it's intended for project tracking. tracking our TODO items, etc. etc. it seems it's only me that likes TODO in CVS. no one else except a few core devs even knows its there. so i am thinking that we use trac to put up the TODO items and file tickets for them - then we can track what is to be done, even have discussions on each item - draw up wiki-like documents on them, find out who is doing them etc. etc. it even provides a NICE wishlist system. it's friendlier than bugzilla, but not as powerful. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Themes (Was: News from the E stables)
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:36:52 +0100, Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Simon TRENY wrote: Another possibility would be to use an existing theme. Detour would be a perfect candidate for the job! It is already complete, it has a really good look imo and widgets always look good regardless to the layout. And it will also save you a lot of work. What do you think? (Tokyo would also have to agree on this of course.. :)) My personal favorites are gant and blue eyed.. Found a screenshot of Detour by means of google*, and I guess that theme also looks OK, I just think the recessed 3D-buttons are a bit much, and a candy cane percent bar doesn't really speak to me.. *) http://tinyurl.com/2w3wg4 You can have a more recent screenshot of the Detour theme here: http://mtreny.free.fr/detour.png - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] building e
I've not compiled E in a while, and now when I attempt to do so with my 'it used to work' script, it fails. Is there any doc out there that outlines the compilation order? -- Until later, Geoffrey Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] {Spam?} News from the E stables
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:05:55 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:07:00 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: --snip-- I was just wondering if it was the right time to start a new theme, which is a big big work. it is a big work, but the old one just was annoying me too much. i was trying to do graphics for the wizard and it just wasn't looking nice. everything i tried looked like crap. I agree, the bling-bling theme doesn't look good at all when there are too many widgets on the same window. Just put more than 3 buttons and the interface will probably look overloaded. Do you have any mockup of the new widget-set? I've seen some shots of the window-borders, but what really is important is to have a coherent and non-intruisive look for the widgets imho. Otherwise, you'll end up with the same problems as with the bling-bling theme. Another possibility would be to use an existing theme. Detour would be a perfect candidate for the job! It is already complete, it has a really good look imo and widgets always look good regardless to the layout. And it will also save you a lot of work. What do you think? (Tokyo would also have to agree on this of course.. :)) MoOM Simon TRENY - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Themes (Was: News from the E stables)
Simon TRENY wrote: Another possibility would be to use an existing theme. Detour would be a perfect candidate for the job! It is already complete, it has a really good look imo and widgets always look good regardless to the layout. And it will also save you a lot of work. What do you think? (Tokyo would also have to agree on this of course.. :)) My personal favorites are gant and blue eyed.. Found a screenshot of Detour by means of google*, and I guess that theme also looks OK, I just think the recessed 3D-buttons are a bit much, and a candy cane percent bar doesn't really speak to me.. *) http://tinyurl.com/2w3wg4 -- Cheers, Morten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] missing .pot files break e_modules build
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:24:49 +0200 Ag. System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Confirmed with all these: - alarm (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/alarm.log) - cpu (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/cpu.log) - emu (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/emu.log) - flame (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/flame.log) - forecasts (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/forecasts.log) - language (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/language.log) - mail (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/mail.log) - mem (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/mem.log) - mixer (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/mixer.log) - moon (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/moon.log) - net (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/net.log) - rain (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/rain.log) - screenshot (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/screenshot.log) - slideshow (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/slideshow.log) - snow (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/snow.log) - taskbar (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/taskbar.log) - tclock (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/tclock.log) - uptime (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/uptime.log) - weather (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/weather.log) - wlan (error log: /tmp/easy_e17/install_logs/wlan.log) Update you cvs local copy. It's fixed now. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] News from the E stables
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:54:45 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : First. I need to offer some big apologies. I have been pretty bad at being responsive and attentive to E for a while now. I can give you a million reasons (excuses) - but that not fair. I've basically been paying the rent with Jobs - and they have not had anything to do with E (first) and then nothing to do with Open source OR E. This means E swindled into a small corner of my world. I've been bad to respond to mail or provide any form of direction ,feedback - or for that matter - leadership. Please accept my sincerest apologies. It's my fault and my problem. I need to fix this. And fix it I shall. That is my intent. So launching into fixing, I shall do below. So bear with me. I've been for an email like this one for a few months now! Thanks! :) First on to some news. It may has snuck out before and it's now official. I'm @ OpenMoko ( http://www.openmoko.org ) now. Why? Back to OpenSource roots - and for that matter, back to Linux, X11 and Graphics... and E! For those who don't know what OpenMoko is - read the link. It's exciting. That is really great news to hear! I'm really glad for you, and I'm pretty sure you could bring a lot of good to the OpenMoko project! Congratulations! :) This mans I now will have more time. Right now I will be all over the place - I am shifting countries again, so I'll be sporadic with E-mail and reachability, but that will settle. I'm moving (partly) back to Sydney, Australia, and the other half of my time i will be in Taipei or other locations. But I do intend to have more focus and support on E. Now why? OpenMoko is convinced the technology behind E is what it takes to make exciting mobile phones that are Linux based and OpenSource.This amounts to what is commercial support for E. This makes me excited. This opens doors for us. In addition to the work Nokia's INDT are doing, Terrasoft, and now gOS with Everex - this is a growing list of companies putting their faith in us. Some of you may be suspicious of this - please do not be. In E land we have believed in freedom - not a limited brand of it, but one that ALSO gives freedom to those producing commercial products to do whatever it is they need or want to do. I believe that in the end, they will come back to the fold and not close and hide their source, because the cost of maintaining a fork is just too high. I belive with support will come resources, and resources will mean development of the things you need and want. Everyone wins. Great to see that more and more commercial products are using the EFL! :) One thing people may notice is that E is getting some splits. Desktop vs. Embedded. Apps vs libraries and multiple libraries and projects. I don't think E will ever really totally split - it will just have lots of useful libraries, tools and apps - different ones aiming for different directions. One thing I hope to do is keep E together - even if there are different directions. It would be great in theory to be able to share the same code for the Desktop and the Embedded versions of E, but I'm not sure it is such a good idea after all. If it implies having lot of modules and lot of use cases in order to get a different behaviour according to the platform, I'm not sure it will benefit to the developer (more complex code), not to the user (more complex interface). I'm actually not sure a traditionnal WM like e17 will fit well on embedded devices like cellphones. It might be good on Internet tables, but I'm more dubious for small-screen devices. I also see the team growing - this is great, but it serves to just increase communication traffic, and that in turn means less coding gets done. The traditional solution here is to start some hierarchy and reporting lines. I don't want to do this though - this will server to create splits where once there was fluid freedom. If we must - we must. Any suggestions? I'm thinking of maybe just formalising a bit more of our developer Relations, involvement and teamwork. Some Ideas for people-things: 1. Identify people who WANT to be leaders and shape the direction of E - and are willing to spent the effort. Some of you do it as a hobby and love just that, some do it for a job, others are in half-way houses. 2. Lets have actual weekly or monthly developer meetings - literally all-in live discussions - maybe IRC? Have actual agendas in meetings. Minutes. 3. Have regular community meetings where people can tell us what they like and don't - give feedback or whatever. 4. Try an organise some annual get-together. An E meet (I think I'll just call it The Rave for now - it fits with the whole E thing). So Literally find a place on the planet we all can/want to go to - go there. Having more meetings (virtual or in real life) is a really great idea. I really think one of the main issue in the E community is the
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Trac? (milestone/todo list visibility)
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:40:53 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: *blah blah - lots of emails - reply to all* i set up track for project timeline/status/completion tracking - ti deos things bugzilla doesn't. 1. it doesn't piss me off so much that i might actually use it. 2. it is not meant to replace bugzilla 3. this is the age of the internet - put in links to buzilla items if they are relevant on a TODO 4. it was intended for handling the TODO file in e. people still ask what is there to do? how can i help? what's the status?. trac provides a roadmap with a nice nice nice nice summary per project - items to do, items done. a percentage bar. it's simple. 5. i don't intend to use trac for svn. it's just hanging about 6. the wiki is only there for documenting the todo items and providing some central hook to get to them all - nothing else. trac's wiki is too limited for much moe 7. did i mention - this is the a web page. we can use things like links back to the real' wiki etc.? 8. bugzilla may be working for ewl - great! fantastic! keep using it. it isn't working for me for e - and the TODO file has been in cvs and still is there and is only being updated there. i waned to move it more into a public space. trac seemed to fit the bill. i set it up. 9. bugzilla annoys me to hell - every time i do use it it encouages me to run away and spend as long as possible away from it until i get back. just somehtng simple like list all bugs open for E17 or just all bugs open i can't do. i select open and 17 in bugs search but then i need to put in words - i dont wan to search. i want a LIST. come on bugzilla. how hard is it to just list the bugs! so instead i have to spend time int he advanced search fiddling with a bunch of things to create a saved search simply to list the bugs... sure then i can go create a bunch - go share them and people can track progress based on how long the list of bugs are for some saved search they have to go find and select. it just annoys me that the simpl things have to be so complex. providing a simple public status and a simple like like: top priority: * do a * create b * fix c nice to have: * do x * delete y * re-color z etc. doesn't exist with bugzilla. bugzilla also looks ugly :( filing a bug (or for a simple task/todo item) is quite an exercise in filling out forms. there is no ability to do any nice formatting (text only - though i don't mind much, trac does handle this nicely) etc. etc. if you want to use bugzilla as a way of putting down a request or todo item then using bugzilla to also discuss and refine it - draw nice diagrams, tables, etc. etc. it will get ugly. trac seems to lend itself to this much better. as i said - do NOT STOP USING BUGZILLA. i want to use trac for tracking TODO items for E - they are NOT being tracked in bugzilla. i want to have the TODO list for e much more visible. let people directly comment on it and maybe provide ideas or shortcuts etc. some TODO items are very fuzzy and need more solidification. trac seems to be a good tool for that. On Nov 15, 2007 5:40 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I set up Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e As per the news: http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/showl=ennews_id=6 it's intended for project tracking. tracking our TODO items, etc. etc. it seems it's only me that likes TODO in CVS. no one else except a few core devs even knows its there. so i am thinking that we use trac to put up the TODO items and file tickets for them - then we can track what is to be done, even have discussions on each item - draw up wiki-like documents on them, find out who is doing them etc. etc. it even provides a NICE wishlist system. it's friendlier than bugzilla, but not as powerful. Ok, I really like trac, but keeping both doesn't solve the previous problem of people not using bugzilla, instead it create another point of replication. I also like bugzilla completeness, but unless we'll create hierarchical bug dependencies, it doesn't worth the pain. So, let's try to eliminate one? Pro-Trac: it's simpler and provides wiki and scm view (I know git and svn works, but does cvs?) Pro-Bugzilla: it's complete, you can have hierarchical bugs and with that have todo lists. I rather keep the bugzilla + mediawiki instead of going Trac. Maybe someone could customize bugzilla's UI? -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (81) 9927 0010 -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005.
