Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Quelrond
tint2, git version.
Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.

Peter

On 10/07/2014 02:06, Conrad Hill-Knight wrote:
 The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
 are no intentions to fix it. What would be a suitable E-like
 replacement? What are people using right now, given that the current
 systray keeps losing its icons?

 Thanks!


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Re: [e-users] E1[7-9], ssh keys and agent

2014-10-07 Thread Wawrzek Niewodniczanski
On 7 October 2014 11:15, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski m...@wawrzek.name wrote:
 Hi,

[...]
 Today, I would like to ask, how you deal with
 enabling ssh passphrase secure keys in E19.

 Any better ideas? Preferable nothing graphical.

I should say graphical is OK is if consistent to Enlightenment, so no
Gnome/KDE stuff.

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[e-users] E1[7-9], ssh keys and agent

2014-10-07 Thread Wawrzek Niewodniczanski
Hi,

It's not the first time I'm joing list (seems that problem with gmail
causes my leaves). This time I have even more reason to be active.
First of all, In my new job I have Dell XPS Dev Edition (with Ubuntu)
and I set up E19 from Bodhi as my window manager. It leaded to some
interesting situation which I've started to report in bug tracker.
(There will be more.) Today, I would like to ask, how you deal with
enabling ssh passphrase secure keys in E19.

On my home desktop I'm using method describe in here:
http://larryn.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/my-way-for-binding-ssh-agent-with-zshell.html

Any better ideas? Preferable nothing graphical.

Thanks,
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[e-users] Recovering an old theme of Agust JAPAN

2014-10-07 Thread yunn
I wanted to share, one of the a lot of themes of Agust. Now recovered for
Bodhi 3.0 and E19.

http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/11188-e19-themes/page__pid__86176#entry86176


Thanks you very much and regards, :D
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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Gavin McCord
Most of the stuff you would see in a systray (battery monitor, network,
etc) seems to have dedicated modules in E anyway.

FWIW, for the last 5 years, my shop desktop has been based on FVWM with its
taskbar and pager. There's no systray and I've never felt I'm missing
anything.

On 7 October 2014 09:04, Quelrond quelr...@gmail.com wrote:

 tint2, git version.
 Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.

 Peter

 On 10/07/2014 02:06, Conrad Hill-Knight wrote:
  The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
  are no intentions to fix it. What would be a suitable E-like
  replacement? What are people using right now, given that the current
  systray keeps losing its icons?
 
  Thanks!
 


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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
Softphones tend to need a systray, as does the owncloud client for
instance. Not sure what alternative one should consider for those?

2014-10-07 15:41 GMT+02:00 Gavin McCord gavind.mcc...@gmail.com:

 Most of the stuff you would see in a systray (battery monitor, network,
 etc) seems to have dedicated modules in E anyway.

 FWIW, for the last 5 years, my shop desktop has been based on FVWM with its
 taskbar and pager. There's no systray and I've never felt I'm missing
 anything.

 On 7 October 2014 09:04, Quelrond quelr...@gmail.com wrote:

  tint2, git version.
  Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.
 
  Peter
 
  On 10/07/2014 02:06, Conrad Hill-Knight wrote:
   The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
   are no intentions to fix it. What would be a suitable E-like
   replacement? What are people using right now, given that the current
   systray keeps losing its icons?
  
   Thanks!
  
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Recovering an old theme of Agust JAPAN

2014-10-07 Thread Philippe Jean Guillaumie

On 10/07/2014 03:02 PM, yunn wrote:
 I wanted to share, one of the a lot of themes of Agust. Now recovered for
 Bodhi 3.0 and E19.

 http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/11188-e19-themes/page__pid__86176#entry86176

Beautiful and intuitive.
Thanksfor sharing!

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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Albi
Well, don't use tray icons it's not a good answer for who asks for a
tray replacement.
It's not funny suggest to change people's habits to fix a lack of
functionality (and if E-devs don't want to work on systray there's no
problem, 'cause all the DE have their feature and lack of others. It's a
matter of choiches).

In my system there's applications that stay on Tasks and application
that run in background (IM client, Mail client, Torrent Client, DropBox
Status, RSS feed reader, ...) that needs a simple status icon and they
doesn't fill the tasks space because task space, in my system, is the
space for application that they are running and I'm working on it
(browser, word processor, terminal, file browser).

If Conrad Hill-Knight needs a tray, suggesting to change the way he uses
his system it is not a good answer, in my opinion.

I've used stalonetray years ago before E devs develops system tray
module.


Il giorno mar, 07/10/2014 alle 14.41 +0100, Gavin McCord ha scritto:
 Most of the stuff you would see in a systray (battery monitor, network,
 etc) seems to have dedicated modules in E anyway.
 
 FWIW, for the last 5 years, my shop desktop has been based on FVWM with its
 taskbar and pager. There's no systray and I've never felt I'm missing
 anything.
 
 On 7 October 2014 09:04, Quelrond quelr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  tint2, git version.
  Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.
 
  Peter
 
  On 10/07/2014 02:06, Conrad Hill-Knight wrote:
   The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
   are no intentions to fix it. What would be a suitable E-like
   replacement? What are people using right now, given that the current
   systray keeps losing its icons?
  
   Thanks!
  
 
 
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Re: [e-users] E1[7-9], ssh keys and agent

2014-10-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/10/2014 12:15, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It's not the first time I'm joing list (seems that problem with gmail
 causes my leaves). This time I have even more reason to be active.
 First of all, In my new job I have Dell XPS Dev Edition (with Ubuntu)
 and I set up E19 from Bodhi as my window manager. It leaded to some
 interesting situation which I've started to report in bug tracker.
 (There will be more.) Today, I would like to ask, how you deal with
 enabling ssh passphrase secure keys in E19.
 
 On my home desktop I'm using method describe in here:
 http://larryn.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/my-way-for-binding-ssh-agent-with-zshell.html
 
 Any better ideas? Preferable nothing graphical.


have you looked at keychain?

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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Wawrzek Niewodniczanski
On 7 October 2014 14:56, Albi a.verd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, don't use tray icons it's not a good answer for who asks for a
 tray replacement.
[...]

I found Skype extremely annoying without tray, and I rather cannot
work without it.

 I've used stalonetray years ago before E devs develops system tray
 module.



Do you mind to share you settings for stalonetray - it looks like
interesting option and it's nice to have some example at the
beginning.

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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Albi
I am sorry Wawrzek, but I don't use stalonetray since 2009, when I used
OpenGEU Luna Serena, so I can't help you more.

Alberto

Il giorno mar, 07/10/2014 alle 16.12 +0100, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski ha
scritto:
 On 7 October 2014 14:56, Albi a.verd...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well, don't use tray icons it's not a good answer for who asks for a
  tray replacement.
 [...]
 
 I found Skype extremely annoying without tray, and I rather cannot
 work without it.
 
  I've used stalonetray years ago before E devs develops system tray
  module.
 
 
 
 Do you mind to share you settings for stalonetray - it looks like
 interesting option and it's nice to have some example at the
 beginning.
 
 Thanks,
 Wawrzek
 
 
 



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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Conrad Hill-Knight
From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com
 i don't ever even need a systray - i haven't for years.

So what DO you do about programs that run mostly in the background,
but need some kind of place to display an icon for interacting with
them? e.g. Skype, Pidgin, even Chrome displays notifications.

 but in the past people have used
 trayer.

Yeah, wow, no! I installed that and twice in the past 12 hours or so
I've had E19 lock up hard! Not sure what's going on, but after waking
up my screen, all of my windows were located on one desktop, with no
borders. ps shows there's an Enlightenment alert box somewhere, but
I can't see it to click restart (if it is the usual something's
wrong! alert). My only option has been to completely kill
Enlightenment and log back in.

Any idea what may have caused this Really Bad Interaction? And am i
likely to see the same with any other systray replacement? I did
remember to unload E's systray module beforehand, so that's not it.
Going to cautiously try some of the other recommendations...

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Re: [e-users] E1[7-9], ssh keys and agent

2014-10-07 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
I'm using envoy. Its integrates with systemd and works for me.

2014-10-07 19:01 GMT+04:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
 On 07/10/2014 12:15, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote:
 Hi,

 It's not the first time I'm joing list (seems that problem with gmail
 causes my leaves). This time I have even more reason to be active.
 First of all, In my new job I have Dell XPS Dev Edition (with Ubuntu)
 and I set up E19 from Bodhi as my window manager. It leaded to some
 interesting situation which I've started to report in bug tracker.
 (There will be more.) Today, I would like to ask, how you deal with
 enabling ssh passphrase secure keys in E19.

 On my home desktop I'm using method describe in here:
 http://larryn.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/my-way-for-binding-ssh-agent-with-zshell.html

 Any better ideas? Preferable nothing graphical.


 have you looked at keychain?

 http://www.funtoo.org/wiki/Keychain



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[e-users] Terminology Suggestion

2014-10-07 Thread Shelia Babel
Terminology has a switch-terminal shortcut key which is: Ctrl+Prior/Next

But when Terminology has multiple tabs open in more than one split 
sections, the only way to switch between sections via keyboard is by 
cycling through tabs with the above commands until a tab in the desired 
section is chosen.

My suggestion is to add a shortcut specifically for cycling through the 
terminals of each split section.


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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 11:55:10 -0400 Conrad Hill-Knight iestynap...@gmail.com
said:

 From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com
  i don't ever even need a systray - i haven't for years.
 
 So what DO you do about programs that run mostly in the background,
 but need some kind of place to display an icon for interacting with
 them? e.g. Skype, Pidgin, even Chrome displays notifications.

they live on another desktop. i leave them there. or another screen entirely.
if they want my attention they normally make use of things like the urgency
hint (so the window wobbles around). i dont' use pidgin but i do use xchat -
and it just stays open. i haven't use skype now for ages - when i did, i often
just left i on a dektop or iconified it.

  but in the past people have used
  trayer.
 
 Yeah, wow, no! I installed that and twice in the past 12 hours or so
 I've had E19 lock up hard! Not sure what's going on, but after waking
 up my screen, all of my windows were located on one desktop, with no
 borders. ps shows there's an Enlightenment alert box somewhere, but
 I can't see it to click restart (if it is the usual something's
 wrong! alert). My only option has been to completely kill
 Enlightenment and log back in.

awesome. :)

 Any idea what may have caused this Really Bad Interaction? And am 
 likely to see the same with any other systray replacement? I did
 remember to unload E's systray module beforehand, so that's not it.
 Going to cautiously try some of the other recommendations...

nope. no idea.

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Re: [e-users] systray replacement

2014-10-07 Thread Gary

Any way to get tint2 to be a systray only, no tasks, calendars or
anything else?

Gary

Quoting Quelrond quelr...@gmail.com:


tint2, git version.
Works fine as systray for me on e17 under FreeBSD.

Peter

On 10/07/2014 02:06, Conrad Hill-Knight wrote:

The consensus seems to be that the systray in E19 is broken, and there
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replacement? What are people using right now, given that the current
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