Re: [e-users] E-20 cannot create Ibar Icon

2016-01-14 Thread The Rasterman 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:10:47 -0600 Larry Wyble  said:

> 
> When I right click Ibar and then "new Icon" and go through the motions
> of creating a new icon, it never appears on the Ibar. When I click
> apply and then close it there's nothing. I'v tried it several times and
> nothing.

it creates the icon .. it doesnt ADD it to the bar. yes - it probably should. a
detail not implemented. but if you now go set ibar contents - you will find
your new icon there in the list then u can add it.


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Re: [e-users] E-20 cannot create Ibar Icon

2016-01-14 Thread The Rasterman 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 21:29:40 + Peter Flynn  said:

> On 14/01/16 21:10, Larry Wyble wrote:
> > 
> > When I right click Ibar and then "new Icon" and go through the motions
> > of creating a new icon, it never appears on the Ibar. When I click
> > apply and then close it there's nothing. I'v tried it several times and
> > nothing.
> 
> I always get error messages about not having write access to
> /usr/share/icons and /usr/share/enlightenment/icons when I add an icon
> to an Ibar application (several of them are defective as they have no
> icon).
> 
> Of course, I never remember this bug, so the first time this happens on
> a new install, I just chown myself those directories for a few minutes
> while I fix the missing icons. And of course the first one I fix has to
> be re-done, because the error message appears *after* e17 tried to write
> the icon (and failed :-)
> 
> Something is wrong in the assumptions somewhere, as end-users would not
> normally have write access to those directories, so it's invalid that
> e17 would expect to be able to write into them.

the problem is youa re editing a SYSTEM SUPPLIED desktop file. e is expecting
that to edit..l you edit one that belongs to you (that you created). thus it is
trying to mess with system paths not in $HOME. yes - it likely should duplicate
the desktop file into $HOME THEN edit. but it doesn't.

> Why are so many apps missing icons? Terminal is the most obvious...

you havent selected an icon theme? the one selected is invalid or not there?
configure an icon theme.

> This is under Ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10, but it does htis under 14* as well.
> 
> ///Peter
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Re: [e-users] E-20 cannot create Ibar Icon

2016-01-14 Thread Larry Wyble 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 21:29:40 +
Peter Flynn  wrote:

> On 14/01/16 21:10, Larry Wyble wrote:
> > 
> > When I right click Ibar and then "new Icon" and go through the
> > motions of creating a new icon, it never appears on the Ibar. When
> > I click apply and then close it there's nothing. I'v tried it
> > several times and nothing.  
> 
> I always get error messages about not having write access to
> /usr/share/icons and /usr/share/enlightenment/icons when I add an icon
> to an Ibar application (several of them are defective as they have no
> icon).
> 
> Of course, I never remember this bug, so the first time this happens
> on a new install, I just chown myself those directories for a few
> minutes while I fix the missing icons. And of course the first one I
> fix has to be re-done, because the error message appears *after* e17
> tried to write the icon (and failed :-)

I'll give this a try, thanks

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Re: [e-users] E-20 cannot create Ibar Icon

2016-01-14 Thread Peter Flynn 
On 14/01/16 21:10, Larry Wyble wrote:
> 
> When I right click Ibar and then "new Icon" and go through the motions
> of creating a new icon, it never appears on the Ibar. When I click
> apply and then close it there's nothing. I'v tried it several times and
> nothing.

I always get error messages about not having write access to
/usr/share/icons and /usr/share/enlightenment/icons when I add an icon
to an Ibar application (several of them are defective as they have no
icon).

Of course, I never remember this bug, so the first time this happens on
a new install, I just chown myself those directories for a few minutes
while I fix the missing icons. And of course the first one I fix has to
be re-done, because the error message appears *after* e17 tried to write
the icon (and failed :-)

Something is wrong in the assumptions somewhere, as end-users would not
normally have write access to those directories, so it's invalid that
e17 would expect to be able to write into them.

Why are so many apps missing icons? Terminal is the most obvious...

This is under Ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10, but it does htis under 14* as well.

///Peter

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Re: [e-users] E-20 cannot create Ibar Icon

2016-01-14 Thread Eric 
On 01/14/2016 02:29 PM, Peter Flynn wrote:
> On 14/01/16 21:10, Larry Wyble wrote:
>>
>> When I right click Ibar and then "new Icon" and go through the motions
>> of creating a new icon, it never appears on the Ibar. When I click
>> apply and then close it there's nothing. I'v tried it several times and
>> nothing.

Sometimes I have to go to the menu-enlightenment-restart for the new 
icons to take effect.

Many times I will create a new desktop file in 
~/.local/share/applications/ and drag it to the Ibar.  Then just restart 
enlightenment for it to take affect (or is it effect? :)).


>
> I always get error messages about not having write access to
> /usr/share/icons and /usr/share/enlightenment/icons when I add an icon
> to an Ibar application (several of them are defective as they have no
> icon).
>
> Of course, I never remember this bug, so the first time this happens on
> a new install, I just chown myself those directories for a few minutes
> while I fix the missing icons. And of course the first one I fix has to
> be re-done, because the error message appears *after* e17 tried to write
> the icon (and failed :-)
>
> Something is wrong in the assumptions somewhere, as end-users would not
> normally have write access to those directories, so it's invalid that
> e17 would expect to be able to write into them.
>
> Why are so many apps missing icons? Terminal is the most obvious...
>
> This is under Ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10, but it does htis under 14* as well.
>
> ///Peter
>

I always wondered about this to but don't know what the answer is except 
to make your own desktop files for the applications that do not have icons.

Regards

Eric


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Re: [e-users] E-20 cannot create Ibar Icon

2016-01-14 Thread Peter Flynn 
On 14/01/16 22:09, Eric wrote:
> On 01/14/2016 02:29 PM, Peter Flynn wrote:
[...]
>> Why are so many apps missing icons? Terminal is the most obvious...
> 
> I always wondered about this to but don't know what the answer is except 
> to make your own desktop files for the applications that do not have icons.

Usually no need: these are all common applications which come with icons
(used in other desktop interfaces like Gnome, KDE, etc), and the icons
are right there in /usr/share/icons.. or wherever, so you can locate
them. They just never get picked up by e17.

///Peter


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