Re: [e-users] can't make new launchers in IBAR

2016-06-02 Thread Eric
On 06/03/2016 03:27 AM, Larry Wyble wrote:
>
> No matter what I do in the ibar I can't make new application
> launchers/icons in the ibar. I put in the name, the icon name,
> the executable name, hit apply and then exit and nothing
> happens.  What do I have to do to make new app launchers on
> the ibar??  This shouldn't be this hard. This has been this way for
> multiple versions and never fixed or EXPLAINEDin this mailing
> list. Why? What the hell does it take to get this so a regular user can
> set up a proper desktop the way they want it? What use is the menu
> items "ibar > create new icon"?
> I have even made my own .desktop files to try to get the launchers on
> the ibar but enlightenment won't pick them up out of the directory.
>
> Also I have tried for the last 3 versions to get help with my volume
> keys on the keyboard but so far no one has bothered to answer my
> questions on that.
>
> This is supposed to be the enlightenment mailing list where help is
> supposed to be available but so far, even with the developer being on
> this list, I have yet to get any help with this desktop. I just continue
> to upgrade with each version that comes out hoping that something
> changes and improves but nothing changes or improves, just the same old
> problems, same old bugs, same old crap. This would be a great desktop
> if it worked properly but it seems the only things that are important
> is getting Wayland working. Yeah buddy let's work on wayland and screw
> the rest of the desktop.
>
> Here's what we got for the last upgrade announcement:
>
> HIGHLIGHTS
>* Greatly improved Wayland support
>* New gadget infrastructure
>* Wizard improvements
>* Video backgrounds
>
> CHANGES SINCE BETA
>* Wayland DMA buffer support
>* Wayland session recovery
>* New DRM subsystem
>* Various crash fixes/additions
>
> 50%  Wayland announcements, which really doesn't make a tinkers damn in
> the usability of the Enlightenment desktop. 50% Wayland and the rest
> of the upgrades don't make another tinker's damn, DRM subsystem, no
> help, Gadgets improvements, no help, Wizard improvements, what's that?
> Video backgrounds, no help.
> Let's fix the basic usability of the desktop.
>
>
> Yeah, I know, I'm an asshole. But after years and years of trying to
> use something that is a major fail and trying and trying to get help
> and seeing another fail, I'm at the point where I'm truly frustrated.
> Yeah, I know, it's free and so do you and since this has been
> distributed free for so long I come to the conclusion that you may want
> to know what a normal, loyal user's impression is of the desktop.
> I have been using Enlightenment since before E17 and I have upgraded
> every version since and I have always ended up going back to e16, But
> I'm at the point where I have to leave E16 because Terminology doesn't
> work properly with E16 now because of terminology looking for some
> crap that E16 doesn't have. I get errors and can't start it in full
> screen mode.
>
> Well, you can kick me off the mailing list and scream profanities at
> me now and tell me what an asshole I am for expressing my opinions.
> But that's life in the slow lane.
> Thanks
>

Can you give an example of what steps you are taking to create the 
launcher, what application you are trying to launch and what errors you 
are receiving?

Otherwise I don't know if I can provide any help.

Kind regards,

Eric




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[e-users] can't make new launchers in IBAR

2016-06-02 Thread Larry Wyble

No matter what I do in the ibar I can't make new application
launchers/icons in the ibar. I put in the name, the icon name,
the executable name, hit apply and then exit and nothing
happens.  What do I have to do to make new app launchers on 
the ibar??  This shouldn't be this hard. This has been this way for
multiple versions and never fixed or EXPLAINED  in this mailing
list. Why? What the hell does it take to get this so a regular user can
set up a proper desktop the way they want it? What use is the menu
items "ibar > create new icon"?
I have even made my own .desktop files to try to get the launchers on
the ibar but enlightenment won't pick them up out of the directory.

Also I have tried for the last 3 versions to get help with my volume
keys on the keyboard but so far no one has bothered to answer my
questions on that. 

This is supposed to be the enlightenment mailing list where help is
supposed to be available but so far, even with the developer being on
this list, I have yet to get any help with this desktop. I just continue
to upgrade with each version that comes out hoping that something
changes and improves but nothing changes or improves, just the same old
problems, same old bugs, same old crap. This would be a great desktop
if it worked properly but it seems the only things that are important
is getting Wayland working. Yeah buddy let's work on wayland and screw
the rest of the desktop. 

Here's what we got for the last upgrade announcement:

HIGHLIGHTS
  * Greatly improved Wayland support
  * New gadget infrastructure
  * Wizard improvements
  * Video backgrounds

CHANGES SINCE BETA
  * Wayland DMA buffer support
  * Wayland session recovery
  * New DRM subsystem
  * Various crash fixes/additions

50%  Wayland announcements, which really doesn't make a tinkers damn in
the usability of the Enlightenment desktop. 50% Wayland and the rest
of the upgrades don't make another tinker's damn, DRM subsystem, no
help, Gadgets improvements, no help, Wizard improvements, what's that?
Video backgrounds, no help. 
Let's fix the basic usability of the desktop.


Yeah, I know, I'm an asshole. But after years and years of trying to
use something that is a major fail and trying and trying to get help
and seeing another fail, I'm at the point where I'm truly frustrated.
Yeah, I know, it's free and so do you and since this has been
distributed free for so long I come to the conclusion that you may want
to know what a normal, loyal user's impression is of the desktop.
I have been using Enlightenment since before E17 and I have upgraded
every version since and I have always ended up going back to e16, But
I'm at the point where I have to leave E16 because Terminology doesn't
work properly with E16 now because of terminology looking for some
crap that E16 doesn't have. I get errors and can't start it in full
screen mode.

Well, you can kick me off the mailing list and scream profanities at
me now and tell me what an asshole I am for expressing my opinions.
But that's life in the slow lane.
Thanks
 

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[e-users] Still having the same problem with sound

2016-06-02 Thread Larry Wyble

In Enlightenment-0.21.0-rc

I'm still having the same problem with the keyboard volume keys on the
keyboard operating all the mixer controls ie:
 < Master >Headphon   PCM Front   Front Mi Front Mi Surround Center 
etc
instead of just the Master Volume. Is there no way to solve this?

Thanks


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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.21-rc Release

2016-06-02 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
HIGHLIGHTS
  * Greatly improved Wayland support
  * New gadget infrastructure
  * Wizard improvements
  * Video backgrounds

CHANGES SINCE BETA
  * Wayland DMA buffer support
  * Wayland session recovery
  * New DRM subsystem
  * Various crash fixes/additions

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https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2931
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2934
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3072
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https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3408
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3433
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3555
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3585
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3596
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3599
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3603
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3636
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3654
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3681
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3683
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3701
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3702
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3716

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