Re: [e-users] KDE apps window sizing in enlightenment

[Mick]

On Friday 30 Dec 2016 21:19:40 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:26:43 + Mick  said:
> > On Friday 30 Dec 2016 11:32:30 you wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:41:21 + Mick  
said:
> > > > I have observed a really annoying behaviour with some KDE
> > > > applications:
> > > > 
> > > > If I maximise the window of e.g. kwrite, then unmaximise it back to
> > > > its
> > > > normal state and close it, the next time I launch this application it
> > > > will
> > > > always be launched in a maximised state, taking up the whole monitor.
> > > > 
> > > > Using the window bar to unmaximise it, either clicking on the top
> > > > right
> > > > 'v'
> > > > icon, or top left Window/Maximize/Unmaximise will resize the window,
> > > > and
> > > > place it at the top left of the monitor with the window bar pushed off
> > > > the
> > > > monitor. I have to use Alt+Left Click to drag it further down the
> > > > screen
> > > > and make the window bar visible again.
> > > > 
> > > > Once in a while this behaviour will stop unpredictably and the window
> > > > when
> > > > launched will be normal size - unmaximised.  However, if I maximise at
> > > > any
> > > > time it will always return to this annoying fully maximised size every
> > > > time
> > > > it is launched again, for the foreseeable future.
> > > > 
> > > > Why is this happening and how can I reset the size of these KDE app
> > > > windows
> > > > so this sticky maximisation does not happen?  I have tried various
> > > > Remember
> > > > settings and nothing sticks.
> > > 
> > > i think you will find the app is saving its last state and trying to
> > > restore it on start. this is supremely annoying and in the past i have
> > > used e's locks and remembers.
> > > 
> > > 1. tell e to remember the window (eg position and size) AND rememeber
> > > locks
> > > 2. set up locks to "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" etc.
> > > 
> > > and watch the problems go away. :) give it a try. this is precisely why
> > > e
> > > has these features - to let you spank badly behaving apps and send them
> > > to
> > > bed without supper. :)
> > 
> > Thank you Carsten!  :-)
> > 
> > I had to select both Remember and Lock for Program Position, Size and
> > Maximised state.  After that the size change was retained.  On my current
> > version the setting "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" is not
> > there.
> 
> under "window locks"
> 
> go to advanced.
> under program locks
> select position, size, maximized state
> 
> :)

Yes, that's how I cured this annoyance.  :-)

I also selected, 'Remember these locks'.

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Re: [e-users] Screen blanking ... but backlight stays on

[Mick]

On Friday 30 Dec 2016 14:09:34 you wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:04:56 + Mick  said:
> > On Thursday 29 Dec 2016 08:54:54 Mick wrote:

> > > I've ran xset +dpms for now, but why would not enlightenment restore it?
> > 
> > Hmm ... it didn't survive a reboot.  :-(
> 
> perhaps you have something else messing with the dpms values. here it alwasy
> sets up on boot/reboot and enable presentation mode then disable again and
> everything is set correctly (dpms enabled, standby/suspend/off times are
> correct, screensaver is on with correct timeout). i can't reproduce your
> issues here with e from git (and efl too).

I've also used vbetool to set DPMS, but it I found out DPMS disabled when I 
rebooted.  I've never had this before.  I wonder if something in the .e/ 
configuration went sideways.

So, I removed content.txt and rebooted.  DPMS was still switched off.  Then I 
used the Settings Panel/Screen/Screen Blanking and set blanking off, applied 
it, then set it on again and applied it once more.  What do you know ... now 
it is set to on and it sticks between reboots.  Problem solved.  :-)

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Re: [e-users] KDE apps window sizing in enlightenment

[The Rasterman]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:26:43 + Mick  said:

> On Friday 30 Dec 2016 11:32:30 you wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:41:21 + Mick  said:
> > > I have observed a really annoying behaviour with some KDE applications:
> > > 
> > > If I maximise the window of e.g. kwrite, then unmaximise it back to its
> > > normal state and close it, the next time I launch this application it will
> > > always be launched in a maximised state, taking up the whole monitor.
> > > 
> > > Using the window bar to unmaximise it, either clicking on the top right
> > > 'v'
> > > icon, or top left Window/Maximize/Unmaximise will resize the window, and
> > > place it at the top left of the monitor with the window bar pushed off the
> > > monitor. I have to use Alt+Left Click to drag it further down the screen
> > > and make the window bar visible again.
> > > 
> > > Once in a while this behaviour will stop unpredictably and the window when
> > > launched will be normal size - unmaximised.  However, if I maximise at any
> > > time it will always return to this annoying fully maximised size every
> > > time
> > > it is launched again, for the foreseeable future.
> > > 
> > > Why is this happening and how can I reset the size of these KDE app
> > > windows
> > > so this sticky maximisation does not happen?  I have tried various
> > > Remember
> > > settings and nothing sticks.
> > 
> > i think you will find the app is saving its last state and trying to restore
> > it on start. this is supremely annoying and in the past i have used e's
> > locks and remembers.
> > 
> > 1. tell e to remember the window (eg position and size) AND rememeber locks
> > 2. set up locks to "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" etc.
> > 
> > and watch the problems go away. :) give it a try. this is precisely why e
> > has these features - to let you spank badly behaving apps and send them to
> > bed without supper. :)
> 
> Thank you Carsten!  :-)
> 
> I had to select both Remember and Lock for Program Position, Size and 
> Maximised state.  After that the size change was retained.  On my current 
> version the setting "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" is not 
> there.

under "window locks"

go to advanced.
under program locks
select position, size, maximized state

:)

> The only thing is that Gwenview in particular would normally auto-resize to
> fit the image being opened 1:1, as long as the size of the image was smaller
> than the maximised size of the application window.  For some months now
> Gwenview would always open in full size, which was annoying.  Now it will
> always open on the Remember(ed) size.  Perhaps I'm asking too much for such
> temperamental applications, but is there a way to make it resize to fit the
> image being opened, but not default to a fully maximised size when the image
> is smaller?

no way to do this without finding something in gwenview to disable it's
remembering of state. the wm has no clue what image is loaded or why. all it
knows is "app wants window to be AxB pixels in size". :)

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> Regards,
> Mick


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Re: [e-users] KDE apps window sizing in enlightenment

[Mick]

On Friday 30 Dec 2016 11:32:30 you wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:41:21 + Mick  said:
> > I have observed a really annoying behaviour with some KDE applications:
> > 
> > If I maximise the window of e.g. kwrite, then unmaximise it back to its
> > normal state and close it, the next time I launch this application it will
> > always be launched in a maximised state, taking up the whole monitor.
> > 
> > Using the window bar to unmaximise it, either clicking on the top right
> > 'v'
> > icon, or top left Window/Maximize/Unmaximise will resize the window, and
> > place it at the top left of the monitor with the window bar pushed off the
> > monitor. I have to use Alt+Left Click to drag it further down the screen
> > and make the window bar visible again.
> > 
> > Once in a while this behaviour will stop unpredictably and the window when
> > launched will be normal size - unmaximised.  However, if I maximise at any
> > time it will always return to this annoying fully maximised size every
> > time
> > it is launched again, for the foreseeable future.
> > 
> > Why is this happening and how can I reset the size of these KDE app
> > windows
> > so this sticky maximisation does not happen?  I have tried various
> > Remember
> > settings and nothing sticks.
> 
> i think you will find the app is saving its last state and trying to restore
> it on start. this is supremely annoying and in the past i have used e's
> locks and remembers.
> 
> 1. tell e to remember the window (eg position and size) AND rememeber locks
> 2. set up locks to "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" etc.
> 
> and watch the problems go away. :) give it a try. this is precisely why e
> has these features - to let you spank badly behaving apps and send them to
> bed without supper. :)

Thank you Carsten!  :-)

I had to select both Remember and Lock for Program Position, Size and 
Maximised state.  After that the size change was retained.  On my current 
version the setting "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" is not 
there.

The only thing is that Gwenview in particular would normally auto-resize to fit 
the image being opened 1:1, as long as the size of the image was smaller than 
the maximised size of the application window.  For some months now Gwenview 
would always open in full size, which was annoying.  Now it will always open 
on the Remember(ed) size.  Perhaps I'm asking too much for such temperamental 
applications, but is there a way to make it resize to fit the image being 
opened, but not default to a fully maximised size when the image is smaller?
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